Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life

Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life

2013-05-03 09:57:29
Jan Mulrenan
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>> From: Jan Mulrenan <janmulrenan@...>
>> Date: 3 May 2013 07:48:21 BST
>> To: "" <>
>> Subject: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph
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>> Dear Forum members,
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>> I was alerted to this by the London group yesterday. Thank you, Elizabeth!
>> It's not pleasant reading, never mind its "traditional" interpretation. However I doubt if the king's dental experiences were very different from those of others of his rank & time.
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>> Jan.
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>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/archaeology/10031896/King-Richard-IIIs-teeth-and-jaw-reveal-monarchs-anxious-life-and-violent-death.html
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Re: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious l

2013-05-03 11:43:03
Claire M Jordan
From: Jan Mulrenan
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Sent: Friday, May 03, 2013 9:57 AM
Subject: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw
reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph


>> I was alerted to this by the London group yesterday. Thank you,
>> Elizabeth!
>> It's not pleasant reading, never mind its "traditional" interpretation.
>> However I doubt if the king's dental experiences were very different from
>> those of others of his rank & time.

They've missed an important point. Tamara found a photo' which shows
Richard's lower jaw from the rear, which shows a damned great notch cut into
the back edge on the right, in a position which doesn't show when seen from
the front. It's difficult to interpret a blow in this position other than
that they really did cut his throat - which is good because it's a nice
quick way to die, it means he probably didn't suffer very much.

I don't see how his crown, as such, could have been driven into his skull -
it would have been on the outside of his helmet, and softer metal than the
helmet. Part of the helmet yes maybe, if it was badly dented. They must
have smashed or cut or prised the helmet off to inflict some of the other
wounds.

Re: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious l

2013-05-03 13:07:15
liz williams
"Richard III's remains should be buried in York, alongside his family. "
 
For crying out loud.  This is the Telegraph so I really would expect better.  Where has this ridiculous idea that Anne and Edward are both already in York come from?
 
I can't access the comments or I'd be making that point there.
 
Liz
 

From: Jan Mulrenan <janmulrenan@...>
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Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013, 9:57
Subject: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph

 

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>> From: Jan Mulrenan <mailto:janmulrenan%40icloud.com>
>> Date: 3 May 2013 07:48:21 BST
>> To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph
>>
>> Dear Forum members,
>>
>> I was alerted to this by the London group yesterday. Thank you, Elizabeth!
>> It's not pleasant reading, never mind its "traditional" interpretation. However I doubt if the king's dental experiences were very different from those of others of his rank & time.
>>
>> Jan.
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>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/archaeology/10031896/King-Richard-IIIs-teeth-and-jaw-reveal-monarchs-anxious-life-and-violent-death.html
>>
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>> Sent from my iPad






Re: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious l

2013-05-03 19:30:59
ricard1an
Well Liz, he is the Science Correspondent so what can you expect? However, presumably he is relatively bright, so I would expect him to do do some basic research.

--- In , liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
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> "Richard III’s remains should be buried in York, alongside his family. "
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> For crying out loud.  This is the Telegraph so I really would expect better.  Where has this ridiculous idea that Anne and Edward are both already in York come from?
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> I can't access the comments or I'd be making that point there.
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> Liz
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> From: Jan Mulrenan <janmulrenan@...>
> To: "" <>
> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013, 9:57
> Subject: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph
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> >> From: Jan Mulrenan <mailto:janmulrenan%40icloud.com>
> >> Date: 3 May 2013 07:48:21 BST
> >> To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph
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> >> Dear Forum members,
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> >> I was alerted to this by the London group yesterday. Thank you, Elizabeth!
> >> It's not pleasant reading, never mind its "traditional" interpretation. However I doubt if the king's dental experiences were very different from those of others of his rank & time.
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> >> Jan.
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> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/archaeology/10031896/King-Richard-IIIs-teeth-and-jaw-reveal-monarchs-anxious-life-and-violent-death.html
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Re: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious l

2013-05-03 20:44:13
liz williams
I found his e mail address (but it's at work) so I'm going to e mail him (very politely of course)after the bank holiday
 
 


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From: ricard1an <maryfriend@...>
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Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013, 19:30
Subject: Re: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph

 
Well Liz, he is the Science Correspondent so what can you expect? However, presumably he is relatively bright, so I would expect him to do do some basic research.

--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, liz williams <ferrymansdaughter@...> wrote:
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> "Richard IIIâ¬"s remains should be buried in York, alongside his family. "
>  
> For crying out loud.  This is the Telegraph so I really would expect better.  Where has this ridiculous idea that Anne and Edward are both already in York come from?
>  
> I can't access the comments or I'd be making that point there.
>  
> Liz
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> From: Jan Mulrenan <janmulrenan@...>
> To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 3 May 2013, 9:57
> Subject: Fwd: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph
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> >> From: Jan Mulrenan <mailto:janmulrenan%40icloud.com>
> >> Date: 3 May 2013 07:48:21 BST
> >> To: "mailto:%40yahoogroups.com" <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> >> Subject: King Richard III's teeth and jaw reveal monarch's anxious life and violent death - Telegraph
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> >> Dear Forum members,
> >>
> >> I was alerted to this by the London group yesterday. Thank you, Elizabeth!
> >> It's not pleasant reading, never mind its "traditional" interpretation. However I doubt if the king's dental experiences were very different from those of others of his rank & time.
> >>
> >> Jan.
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> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/archaeology/10031896/King-Richard-IIIs-teeth-and-jaw-reveal-monarchs-anxious-life-and-violent-death.html
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