Helen Maurer's article

Can anyone help? I was looking for Helen Maurer's article titled 'Whodunnit: The Suspects in the Case', but the link I've got is broken and I can't find it by Google.

Does anyone know where this article might be found, if it's still online? I'd like to show it to a friend of mine, who's beginning to show an interest in Richard :)

I've been searching for it too....I think it was on the society web page at one time but can't trace it....It's an excellent article. I remember reading it when I was quite green about Ricardian affairs and I can remember how shocked I was to read that MB was a suspect...in the possible murder of the boys...l remember thinking 'never she was a woman and a mother'.....how naive of me...let me know if you trace it,,,thank you ...Eileen
--- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
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> Can anyone help? I was looking for Helen Maurer's article titled 'Whodunnit: The Suspects in the Case', but the link I've got is broken and I can't find it by Google.
>
> Does anyone know where this article might be found, if it's still online? I'd like to show it to a friend of mine, who's beginning to show an interest in Richard :)
>

You are in luck. I have just finished re-reading Carson and Maurer's articles were published in the Ricardian (December 1990/ March 1991).
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From: EILEEN BATES
To:
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Helen Maurer's article




I've been searching for it too....I think it was on the society web page at one time but can't trace it....It's an excellent article. I remember reading it when I was quite green about Ricardian affairs and I can remember how shocked I was to read that MB was a suspect...in the possible murder of the boys...l remember thinking 'never she was a woman and a mother'.....how naive of me...let me know if you trace it,,,thank you ...Eileen
--- In , pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone help? I was looking for Helen Maurer's article titled 'Whodunnit: The Suspects in the Case', but the link I've got is broken and I can't find it by Google.
>
> Does anyone know where this article might be found, if it's still online? I'd like to show it to a friend of mine, who's beginning to show an interest in Richard :)
>

Stephen, you are a gem! Thank you

On Jun 6, 2013, at 3:11 PM, "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...<mailto:stephenmlark@...>> wrote:



You are in luck. I have just finished re-reading Carson and Maurer's articles were published in the Ricardian (December 1990/ March 1991).
----- Original Message -----
From: EILEEN BATES
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Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: Helen Maurer's article

I've been searching for it too....I think it was on the society web page at one time but can't trace it....It's an excellent article. I remember reading it when I was quite green about Ricardian affairs and I can remember how shocked I was to read that MB was a suspect...in the possible murder of the boys...l remember thinking 'never she was a woman and a mother'.....how naive of me...let me know if you trace it,,,thank you ...Eileen
--- In <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>, pansydobersby <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Can anyone help? I was looking for Helen Maurer's article titled 'Whodunnit: The Suspects in the Case', but the link I've got is broken and I can't find it by Google.
>
> Does anyone know where this article might be found, if it's still online? I'd like to show it to a friend of mine, who's beginning to show an interest in Richard :)
>

"Stephen Lark" wrote:
>
> You are in luck. I have just finished re-reading Carson and Maurer's articles were published in the Ricardian (December 1990/ March 1991).

Carol responds:

But are they online somewhere?

Carol

--- In , "Stephen Lark" <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
>
> You are in luck. I have just finished re-reading Carson and Maurer's articles were published in the Ricardian (December 1990/ March 1991).
>


Thank you, Stephen!! I echo Carol - can it be found anywhere online? It's a great article, clear and concise; just the sort of thing for potential new Ricardians to read.

>Carol responds:
>
>But are they online somewhere?

*** They are on the Society's old website which is not available now.

Jac
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Carol earlier:
> >
> >But are they online somewhere?

Jac responded:

> *** They are on the Society's old website which is not available now.

Carol again:

Actually, it's still accessible. You just need to step into the Wayback Machine at

http://archive.org/web/web.php

paste in the old URL, and then look for Online Library, Texts and Essays:

http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html

Thanks to Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, you're there. (If you're too young to understand that allusion, just indulge me.)

Carol

Guess I need the old URL, because pasting that page directly into the
Wayback Machine generates a message that that page isn't archived.

A J


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 7:54 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Carol earlier:
>
> > >
> > >But are they online somewhere?
>
> Jac responded:
>
>
> > *** They are on the Society's old website which is not available now.
>
> Carol again:
>
> Actually, it's still accessible. You just need to step into the Wayback
> Machine at
>
> http://archive.org/web/web.php
>
> paste in the old URL, and then look for Online Library, Texts and Essays:
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html
>
> Thanks to Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, you're there. (If you're too
> young to understand that allusion, just indulge me.)
>
> Carol
>
>
>

--- In , A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...> wrote:
>
> Guess I need the old URL, because pasting that page directly into the Wayback Machine generates a message that that page isn't archived.
>
> A J

Carol responds:

Sorry to be unclear. The URL I included in the previous post

http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html

ought to take you there directly without having to use the Wayback Machine. I was just trying to show how I found it.

But if you want to duplicate my steps, you do need the URL for the old site:

http://www.r3.org/

Rather than clicking on it (it will take you to the new site), just copy it from here and paste it into the Wayback Machine at

http://archive.org/

Wayback supplies the http://, so be sure to delete the duplicate.

From there, go to the Online library and you'll find the Maurer article. I hope!

If not, as I said, the longer URL I gave you at the beginning of the message should provide a more direct route.

Carol

Thanks - got it.

A J


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 9:43 PM, justcarol67 <justcarol67@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
>
>
> --- In , A J Hibbard <ajhibbard@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Guess I need the old URL, because pasting that page directly into the
> Wayback Machine generates a message that that page isn't archived.
> >
> > A J
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Sorry to be unclear. The URL I included in the previous post
>
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html
>
> ought to take you there directly without having to use the Wayback
> Machine. I was just trying to show how I found it.
>
> But if you want to duplicate my steps, you do need the URL for the old
> site:
>
> http://www.r3.org/
>
> Rather than clicking on it (it will take you to the new site), just copy
> it from here and paste it into the Wayback Machine at
>
> http://archive.org/
>
> Wayback supplies the http://, so be sure to delete the duplicate.
>
> From there, go to the Online library and you'll find the Maurer article. I
> hope!
>
> If not, as I said, the longer URL I gave you at the beginning of the
> message should provide a more direct route.
>
> Carol
>
>
>

You can probably guess our next question:
Could they be restored, please?
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From: jacqui
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Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 12:15 AM
Subject: Re: Re: Helen Maurer's article



>Carol responds:
>
>But are they online somewhere?

*** They are on the Society's old website which is not available now.

Jac
--

Carol wrote:

"Actually, it's still accessible. You just need to step into the Wayback
Machine at
http://archive.org/web/web.php
paste in the old URL, and then look for Online Library, Texts and Essays:
http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html
Thanks to Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, you're there. (If you're too
young to understand that allusion, just indulge me.)"

Sort of "the Maurer the merrier"?
(Always finished with a bad pun, if I remember correctly)
Dou

>Carol again:
>
>Actually, it's still accessible. You just need to step into the Wayback
>Machine at
>
>http://archive.org/web/web.php
>
>paste in the old URL, and then look for Online Library, Texts and Essays:
>
>http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html
>
>Thanks to Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, you're there. (If you're
>too young to understand that allusion, just indulge me.)

*** Great, thanks Carol. I'm old enough to remember but hadn't heard of
the series ( had a quick Wiki look) don't think we had it in the UK but
then we didn't have TV at home until the mid fifties. Wonderful name for
a dog

Jac

--

Stephen writes
>You can probably guess our next question:
>Could they be restored, please?

*** I think most of the stuff will be put on the new one in time but see
Carol's post for info on how to access the old one.

Jac

Carol...you are an absolute gem! Loads of thanks.....someone give this girl a Tufty badge.....Eileen

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
>
> Carol earlier:
> > >
> > >But are they online somewhere?
>
> Jac responded:
>
> > *** They are on the Society's old website which is not available now.
>
> Carol again:
>
> Actually, it's still accessible. You just need to step into the Wayback Machine at
>
> http://archive.org/web/web.php
>
> paste in the old URL, and then look for Online Library, Texts and Essays:
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/20130317012428/http://r3.org/bookcase/whodunit.html
>
> Thanks to Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, you're there. (If you're too young to understand that allusion, just indulge me.)
>
> Carol
>

Carol earlier:

> >Thanks to Mr. Peabody and his boy, Sherman, you're there. (If you're too young to understand that allusion, just indulge me.)

Jac responded:
> *** Great, thanks Carol. I'm old enough to remember but hadn't heard of the series ( had a quick Wiki look) don't think we had it in the UK but then we didn't have TV at home until the mid fifties. Wonderful name for a dog

Carol again:

I watched "Rocky and Bullwinkle" (aka "Rocky and His Friends"), the cartoon series with the "Peabody's Improbable History" segments, as a kid in the early 1960s, and I'm sure it was on TV after that as well even though the original episodes ended in 1964. Must have been reruns.

Anyway, I checked to see if they had a Richard III segment (mercifully, they didn't). If you're curious, a few episodes (Ponce de Leon, Robin, Beethoven, etc.) are on You Tube, but since they're much sillier than Horrible Histories ("improbable" is the operative word), I don't recommend more than a minute or two to satisfy your curiosity. (Watch out for the 1953 Iraq episode; it's a fake.)


Carol

"EILEEN BATES" wrote:
>
> Carol...you are an absolute gem! Loads of thanks.....someone give this girl a Tufty badge.....Eileen

Carol responds:

Thanks and you're welcome. What's a Tufty badge?

Carol

Tufty Badge is a badge to show you belong to the Tufty Club - which was a Road Safety initiative for young children in the 1960's which ran until the late 70's. Tufty was the red squirrel character on adverts and "Stop! Look! Listen!" badges and in road safety booklets issued to parents.

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
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>
>
> "EILEEN BATES" wrote:
> >
> > Carol...you are an absolute gem! Loads of thanks.....someone give this girl a Tufty badge.....Eileen
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Thanks and you're welcome. What's a Tufty badge?
>
> Carol
>

Carol.....a Tufty badge, with a picture of Tufty was was a squirrell was given to children in the 50s by the Society of Prevention of Accidents. I never got one. But the phrase 'give him/her a Tufty badge' lives on.especially in my last job...where it caused us all to collapse with laughter.....we were simple souls but did we have a laugh...:0)

But seriously cannot thank you enough for posting the link to that article. Eileen

--- In , "justcarol67" <justcarol67@...> wrote:
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>
>
> "EILEEN BATES" wrote:
> >
> > Carol...you are an absolute gem! Loads of thanks.....someone give this girl a Tufty badge.....Eileen
>
> Carol responds:
>
> Thanks and you're welcome. What's a Tufty badge?
>
> Carol
>

colyngbourne wrote:
>
> Tufty Badge is a badge to show you belong to the Tufty Club - which was a Road Safety initiative for young children in the 1960's which ran until the late 70's. Tufty was the red squirrel character on adverts and "Stop! Look! Listen!" badges and in road safety booklets issued to parents.

Carol responds:

Ah! A kind of cross between Rocky the Flying Squirrel (Rocket J. Squirrel) of "Rocky and Bullwinkle" fame and Smokey the Bear.

Can (may) I have a boar badge instead? :-}

Carol