facts vs fiction in yorkshire post

facts vs fiction in yorkshire post

2013-07-02 14:44:54
hli4
I find the quote below in the article very annoying. It equates Richard's deformed spine with a hunch back and withered arm, then goes on to imply all part of fiction was true.

He [Axel Muller] points to the furore this year over Richard III. "It brings into question our ideas of fact and fiction. Over the past hundred years historians began to argue that Richard didn't have a hunchback and didn't have the withered arm that Shakespeare wrote about. But when his body was dug up it seems he did have a deformed spine and it turns out the fiction was true."


http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/features/experts-gather-to-shed-new-light-on-picture-of-medieval-gloom-1-5812960

Re: facts vs fiction in yorkshire post

2013-07-02 15:01:22
A J Hibbard
Too bad you have to register to comment.

A J


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:44 AM, hli4 <hli4@...> wrote:

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> I find the quote below in the article very annoying. It equates Richard's
> deformed spine with a hunch back and withered arm, then goes on to imply
> all part of fiction was true.
>
> He [Axel Muller] points to the furore this year over Richard III. "It
> brings into question our ideas of fact and fiction. Over the past hundred
> years historians began to argue that Richard didn't have a hunchback and
> didn't have the withered arm that Shakespeare wrote about. But when his
> body was dug up it seems he did have a deformed spine and it turns out the
> fiction was true."
>
>
> http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/features/experts-gather-to-shed-new-light-on-picture-of-medieval-gloom-1-5812960
>
>
>


Re: facts vs fiction in yorkshire post

2013-07-02 15:28:11
Hilary Jones
He seems to be an American philospher? Never heard of him. He's put it in the right place to get scalped though!



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Too bad you have to register to comment.

A J


On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 8:44 AM, hli4 <hli4@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> I find the quote below in the article very annoying. It equates Richard's
> deformed spine with a hunch back and withered arm, then goes on to imply
> all part of fiction was true.
>
> He [Axel Muller] points to the furore this year over Richard III. "It
> brings into question our ideas of fact and fiction. Over the past hundred
> years historians began to argue that Richard didn't have a hunchback and
> didn't have the withered arm that Shakespeare wrote about. But when his
> body was dug up it seems he did have a deformed spine and it turns out the
> fiction was true."
>
>
> http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/features/experts-gather-to-shed-new-light-on-picture-of-medieval-gloom-1-5812960
>

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Re: facts vs fiction in yorkshire post

2013-07-02 15:52:54
Jonathan Evans
Not sure whether it's "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" or lazy use of language.  Probably a bit of both.  Actually, as we all know, Kendall was saying Richard may have had one shoulder a little higher than the other as far back as the 1950s, and he probably wasn't the only one - hence the speculation about possible causes, like impact of weapons training on musculature.

I think it's symptomatic of the way the entire subject of Richard's life (not just his physique) always seems to be reduced to some kind of polarised either/or debate, missing every nuance in between that makes him human.

Jonathan




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I find the quote below in the article very annoying. It equates Richard's deformed spine with a hunch back and withered arm, then goes on to imply all part of fiction was true.

He [Axel Muller] points to the furore this year over Richard III. "It brings into question our ideas of fact and fiction. Over the past hundred years historians began to argue that Richard didn't have a hunchback and didn't have the withered arm that Shakespeare wrote about. But when his body was dug up it seems he did have a deformed spine and it turns out the fiction was true."

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/features/experts-gather-to-shed-new-light-on-picture-of-medieval-gloom-1-5812960




Re: facts vs fiction in yorkshire post

2013-07-02 21:04:14
ricard1an
Axel Miller obviously isn't aware of the difference between scoliosis and kyphosis. Sheer ignorance.

--- In , "hli4" <hli4@...> wrote:
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> I find the quote below in the article very annoying. It equates Richard's deformed spine with a hunch back and withered arm, then goes on to imply all part of fiction was true.
>
> He [Axel Muller] points to the furore this year over Richard III. "It brings into question our ideas of fact and fiction. Over the past hundred years historians began to argue that Richard didn't have a hunchback and didn't have the withered arm that Shakespeare wrote about. But when his body was dug up it seems he did have a deformed spine and it turns out the fiction was true."
>
>
> http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/features/experts-gather-to-shed-new-light-on-picture-of-medieval-gloom-1-5812960
>
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