"Cousins' War"
"Cousins' War"
2013-07-20 18:44:45
I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
and white.
~Weds
Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
and white.
~Weds
Re: "Cousins' War"
2013-07-20 19:31:48
The truth is surely the other way around.
The painting in which York and Somerset plucked white and red roses may be Victorian but didn't Shakespeare describe such a scene? That is fiction is immaterial.
On the other hand, I had not heard the phrase "Cousin's War" until two or three years ago.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wednesday McKenna
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: "Cousins' War"
I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
and white.
~Weds
The painting in which York and Somerset plucked white and red roses may be Victorian but didn't Shakespeare describe such a scene? That is fiction is immaterial.
On the other hand, I had not heard the phrase "Cousin's War" until two or three years ago.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wednesday McKenna
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:44 PM
Subject: "Cousins' War"
I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
and white.
~Weds
Re: "Cousins' War"
2013-07-20 20:20:25
Funny how the only 'Cousins War' references related to the WotR that I can find are all connected to her.
Tamara
--- In , Wednesday McKenna <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
Tamara
--- In , Wednesday McKenna <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
Re: "Cousins' War"
2013-07-20 20:32:57
I'd love to see her answer the question - exactly what is the provenance of "the Cousin's War" and can you give examples of its use before the year 2000 or so?
________________________________
From: maroonnavywhite <khafara@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013, 20:20
Subject: Re: "Cousins' War"
Funny how the only 'Cousins War' references related to the WotR that I can find are all connected to her.
Tamara
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Wednesday McKenna <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
________________________________
From: maroonnavywhite <khafara@...>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 20 July 2013, 20:20
Subject: Re: "Cousins' War"
Funny how the only 'Cousins War' references related to the WotR that I can find are all connected to her.
Tamara
--- In mailto:%40yahoogroups.com, Wednesday McKenna <wednesday.mac@...> wrote:
>
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
Re: "Cousins' War"
2013-07-21 10:02:00
And her source was?
Trying to find a source from the 15th century using Cousins War, but so
far have failed.
Paul
On 20/07/2013 18:44, Wednesday McKenna wrote:
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
Trying to find a source from the 15th century using Cousins War, but so
far have failed.
Paul
On 20/07/2013 18:44, Wednesday McKenna wrote:
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
Re: "Cousins' War"
2013-07-21 10:04:02
Yes indeed Stephen, the Bard does have that scene in Henry VI part 1.
As for Cousins War, me too, not heard it before PG started using it. And
I've been studying the period for more years than I care to remember!
Paul
On 20/07/2013 19:32, Stephen Lark wrote:
> The truth is surely the other way around.
> The painting in which York and Somerset plucked white and red roses may be Victorian but didn't Shakespeare describe such a scene? That is fiction is immaterial.
> On the other hand, I had not heard the phrase "Cousin's War" until two or three years ago.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wednesday McKenna
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:44 PM
> Subject: "Cousins' War"
>
>
>
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!
As for Cousins War, me too, not heard it before PG started using it. And
I've been studying the period for more years than I care to remember!
Paul
On 20/07/2013 19:32, Stephen Lark wrote:
> The truth is surely the other way around.
> The painting in which York and Somerset plucked white and red roses may be Victorian but didn't Shakespeare describe such a scene? That is fiction is immaterial.
> On the other hand, I had not heard the phrase "Cousin's War" until two or three years ago.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wednesday McKenna
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 6:44 PM
> Subject: "Cousins' War"
>
>
>
> I just skimmed TWQ in hardback. In PG's author's notes, she refers to the
> Cousins' War and claims the term Wars of the Roses was never used until the
> 19th century. She also admits to writing fiction. I don't know who didn't
> get the memo, or who didn't want to get the memo, but there it is in black
> and white.
>
> ~Weds
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
--
Richard Liveth Yet!