Kent and the Woodvilles

Greetings!

Can anybody on the forum help me clarify how the Woodvilles got into Kent?
I have been on girders & tudorplace; the key person seems to be Richard W born 1385/7 died1441 who was knight of the shire for Kent 1433 & JP for Kent 1433-41.
Family search says he was born at La Mote which is now Moat Park in Maidstone IIRC. tudorplace says he leased it for 50 years starting in 1428 from Archbishop Chichele. He came to hold Grafton Regis after his older half brother Thomas W died in 1435.
However, Richard W died 1441 was son to Sir John W who was born 1341 at Grafton R & died there too in 1403, being escheator / sheriff in Northants/ Beds / Bucks during his life according to girders. Not a peep about connections to Kent.

Where else might I look?

Thanks,
Jan.

VCH:

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53808&strquery=Mote

(the story about the Rivers title being derived from the Redvers Earls of Devon is false).

As TP mentions, the Woodvilles leased the property from Archbishop Henry Chichele.





--- In , "janmulrenan@..." <janmulrenan@...> wrote:
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> Greetings!
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> Can anybody on the forum help me clarify how the Woodvilles got into Kent?
> I have been on girders & tudorplace; the key person seems to be Richard W born 1385/7 died1441 who was knight of the shire for Kent 1433 & JP for Kent 1433-41.
> Family search says he was born at La Mote which is now Moat Park in Maidstone IIRC. tudorplace says he leased it for 50 years starting in 1428 from Archbishop Chichele. He came to hold Grafton Regis after his older half brother Thomas W died in 1435.
> However, Richard W died 1441 was son to Sir John W who was born 1341 at Grafton R & died there too in 1403, being escheator / sheriff in Northants/ Beds / Bucks during his life according to girders. Not a peep about connections to Kent.
>
> Where else might I look?
>
> Thanks,
> Jan.
>

Is this another nod toward the silent dog? (Ignore the Richard Armitage stuff, as if has nothing to do with the text.)

http://cdoart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/jack-ripper-king-richard-iii.html

Sandra
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There are a lot of non-barking dogs surrounding Richard.

This particular non-barking dog concerns how Richard, allegedly England's Nastiest King, is a cooing dove compared to the man who usurped him (not to mention that man's son and granddaughters).

Other non-barking dogs -- or things one would expect to have occurred but didn't -- include Elizabeth Wydeville's not accusing Richard of killing her sons, even after Richard's death when Henry Tydder would have welcomed her testimony. (Of course, Tydder's apologists say that she was bought off by Richard -- but can one truly imagine Lizzie Wydeville condoning her sons' murders that way?)

Tamara

--- In , "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:
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> Is this another nod toward the silent dog? (Ignore the Richard Armitage stuff, as if has nothing to do with the text.)
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> http://cdoart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/jack-ripper-king-richard-iii.html
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> Sandra
> =^..^=
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Also after Richard was dead and H7 was king she could say what she liked about Richard, it wouldn't matter if he had bought her off. As you said Tamara she was hardly likely to condone her sons' murders. --- In , <khafara@...> wrote: There are a lot of non-barking dogs surrounding Richard.

This particular non-barking dog concerns how Richard, allegedly England's Nastiest King, is a cooing dove compared to the man who usurped him (not to mention that man's son and granddaughters).

Other non-barking dogs -- or things one would expect to have occurred but didn't -- include Elizabeth Wydeville's not accusing Richard of killing her sons, even after Richard's death when Henry Tydder would have welcomed her testimony. (Of course, Tydder's apologists say that she was bought off by Richard -- but can one truly imagine Lizzie Wydeville condoning her sons' murders that way?)

Tamara

--- In , "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:
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> Is this another nod toward the silent dog? (Ignore the Richard Armitage stuff, as if has nothing to do with the text.)
>
> http://cdoart.blogspot.co.uk/2013/08/jack-ripper-king-richard-iii.html
>
> Sandra
> =^..^=
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