Woodvilles get everywhere.

Greetings.




Can anybody advise me on where to go next in my hunt for how the
Woodvilles got into Kent?

The particular Woodville I'm pursuing is Richard Woodville born 1385 or
1387. Tudorplace gives his birthplace and place of burial as Maidstone
but has him dying at Grafton Regis. It also has him leasing the Mote in
Maidstone from Archbishop Chichele in 1428 for 50 years. This Richard W
died in 1441 after serving as a knight of the shire & JP for Kent &
constable of Rochester Castle.

From British History Online in Hasted's major work on Kent I read that
the Woodvilles came into possession of the Mote in Maidstone but not how
or when & that they left Grafton for the Mote. Hasted appears to think
John de Woodville had it during Richard II's reign & that this John,
father of Richard W, was buried in Maidstone. This is wrong as St Mary
the Virgin in Grafton has his altar tomb as its best monument. Girders
information about John does not mention Kent at all.

The Mote was attacked in 1468 by supporters of the "Kingmaker", probably
Neville tenants from Mereworth & Birling.

Now where could I find records of transactions of the Archbishops of
Canterbury which might

1) confirm Richard W leased the Mote

2) explain what happened when the lease expired in 1478 by which time
Thomas Bourchier was Archbishop?

Richard W's son, 1st Earl Rivers, had died in 1469 & I assume Queen EW
was the tenant!

Jan.

I don't think they left Grafton, but added on The Mote (a place I know
as a very attractive cricket ground). Geoffrey Richardson has them at
Grafton from the 12th century, but without mentioning The Mote. Kent
would have been convenient for the service of a King of both England
and France, so maybe that is why he leased somewhere on the main road
from London to Folkestone and a day's ride from both.

Thomas Woodville bought the manorial rights to Grafton from the Earl
of Suffolk in 1435, and I think your Richard W was his brother.

Best wishes
Christine
Not an expert on Woodvilles

Quoting "janmulrenan@..." <janmulrenan@...>:

>
> Greetings.
>
>
>
>
> Can anybody advise me on where to go next in my hunt for how the
> Woodvilles got into Kent?
>
> The particular Woodville I'm pursuing is Richard Woodville born 1385 or
> 1387. Tudorplace gives his birthplace and place of burial as Maidstone
> but has him dying at Grafton Regis. It also has him leasing the Mote in
> Maidstone from Archbishop Chichele in 1428 for 50 years. This Richard W
> died in 1441 after serving as a knight of the shire & JP for Kent &
> constable of Rochester Castle.
>
> From British History Online in Hasted's major work on Kent I read that
> the Woodvilles came into possession of the Mote in Maidstone but not how
> or when & that they left Grafton for the Mote. Hasted appears to think
> John de Woodville had it during Richard II's reign & that this John,
> father of Richard W, was buried in Maidstone. This is wrong as St Mary
> the Virgin in Grafton has his altar tomb as its best monument. Girders
> information about John does not mention Kent at all.
>
> The Mote was attacked in 1468 by supporters of the "Kingmaker", probably
> Neville tenants from Mereworth & Birling.
>
> Now where could I find records of transactions of the Archbishops of
> Canterbury which might
>
> 1) confirm Richard W leased the Mote
>
> 2) explain what happened when the lease expired in 1478 by which time
> Thomas Bourchier was Archbishop?
>
> Richard W's son, 1st Earl Rivers, had died in 1469 & I assume Queen EW
> was the tenant!
>
> Jan.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi Christine,
Thank you for this!
Jan.

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On 29 Aug 2013, at 00:54, Christine Headley <lists@...> wrote:

>
> I don't think they left Grafton, but added on The Mote (a place I know
> as a very attractive cricket ground). Geoffrey Richardson has them at
> Grafton from the 12th century, but without mentioning The Mote. Kent
> would have been convenient for the service of a King of both England
> and France, so maybe that is why he leased somewhere on the main road
> from London to Folkestone and a day's ride from both.
>
> Thomas Woodville bought the manorial rights to Grafton from the Earl
> of Suffolk in 1435, and I think your Richard W was his brother.
>
> Best wishes
> Christine
> Not an expert on Woodvilles
>
> Quoting "janmulrenan@..." <janmulrenan@...>:
>
> >
> > Greetings.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Can anybody advise me on where to go next in my hunt for how the
> > Woodvilles got into Kent?
> >
> > The particular Woodville I'm pursuing is Richard Woodville born 1385 or
> > 1387. Tudorplace gives his birthplace and place of burial as Maidstone
> > but has him dying at Grafton Regis. It also has him leasing the Mote in
> > Maidstone from Archbishop Chichele in 1428 for 50 years. This Richard W
> > died in 1441 after serving as a knight of the shire & JP for Kent &
> > constable of Rochester Castle.
> >
> > From British History Online in Hasted's major work on Kent I read that
> > the Woodvilles came into possession of the Mote in Maidstone but not how
> > or when & that they left Grafton for the Mote. Hasted appears to think
> > John de Woodville had it during Richard II's reign & that this John,
> > father of Richard W, was buried in Maidstone. This is wrong as St Mary
> > the Virgin in Grafton has his altar tomb as its best monument. Girders
> > information about John does not mention Kent at all.
> >
> > The Mote was attacked in 1468 by supporters of the "Kingmaker", probably
> > Neville tenants from Mereworth & Birling.
> >
> > Now where could I find records of transactions of the Archbishops of
> > Canterbury which might
> >
> > 1) confirm Richard W leased the Mote
> >
> > 2) explain what happened when the lease expired in 1478 by which time
> > Thomas Bourchier was Archbishop?
> >
> > Richard W's son, 1st Earl Rivers, had died in 1469 & I assume Queen EW
> > was the tenant!
> >
> > Jan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>