News since Sunday
News since Sunday
2004-05-20 21:49:15
I have read a chapter and a half of Perkin. Ann Wroe describes the different versions' of his story, details what we call "Jones' Hypothesis", talked about Warwick's captivity and "learning difficulties" and reveals the existence of a third prince - George (born in 1479, died very soon). Note the name, AFTER his uncle's execution for treason.
I have obtained, through a Society Committee member, some dates and names relating to the Clarence and Buckingham lines, for use in my presentation on Thomas Stafford. Apparently, he had the full works (drawn, hanged and quartered). Surely this could not have happened summarily in Scarborough as I thought was the fate of all the rebels?
I have also read that Lincoln's brother Edward (the second son) died in 1485. Was he at Bosworth, perhaps?
I have obtained, through a Society Committee member, some dates and names relating to the Clarence and Buckingham lines, for use in my presentation on Thomas Stafford. Apparently, he had the full works (drawn, hanged and quartered). Surely this could not have happened summarily in Scarborough as I thought was the fate of all the rebels?
I have also read that Lincoln's brother Edward (the second son) died in 1485. Was he at Bosworth, perhaps?
Re: News since Sunday
2004-05-21 17:05:11
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
> I have read a chapter and a half of Perkin. Ann Wroe describes the
different versions' of his story, details what we call "Jones'
Hypothesis", talked about Warwick's captivity and "learning
difficulties" and reveals the existence of a third prince - George
(born in 1479, died very soon). Note the name, AFTER his uncle's
execution for treason.
> I have obtained, through a Society Committee member, some dates
and names relating to the Clarence and Buckingham lines, for use in
my presentation on Thomas Stafford. Apparently, he had the full
works (drawn, hanged and quartered). Surely this could not have
happened summarily in Scarborough as I thought was the fate of all
the rebels?
> I have also read that Lincoln's brother Edward (the second son)
died in 1485. Was he at Bosworth, perhaps?
>
>
Thomas Stafford was taken to London for execution.
There is a brother of the de la Poles's I came across once only and
he was never referred to again, I think it was William. In fact
there were 6 altogether. John was eldest, Edmund was earl (though he
is sometimes called duke like his father) of Suffolk aka the White
Rose, executed 1513 (Henry VII before dying advised his son to
execute Edmund should he ever go abroad, as he did in 1513.) I have
seen Richard referred to as the White Rose, rather than Edmund. Did
the nickname get transferred? Richard doesn't die till the Battle of
Pavia in 1525. As said there is Edward who dies 1485 and also
Humphrey who dies 1513, also William who dies 1539 and one called
Geoffrey of unknown death date in the source I used. Edmund is
usually referred to as the 2nd son but this may in fact have been
Edward. Does anyone have any information about any of them other
than John, Edmund and Richard as I, for one, would be very
interested.
Brunhild
<smlark@t...> wrote:
> I have read a chapter and a half of Perkin. Ann Wroe describes the
different versions' of his story, details what we call "Jones'
Hypothesis", talked about Warwick's captivity and "learning
difficulties" and reveals the existence of a third prince - George
(born in 1479, died very soon). Note the name, AFTER his uncle's
execution for treason.
> I have obtained, through a Society Committee member, some dates
and names relating to the Clarence and Buckingham lines, for use in
my presentation on Thomas Stafford. Apparently, he had the full
works (drawn, hanged and quartered). Surely this could not have
happened summarily in Scarborough as I thought was the fate of all
the rebels?
> I have also read that Lincoln's brother Edward (the second son)
died in 1485. Was he at Bosworth, perhaps?
>
>
Thomas Stafford was taken to London for execution.
There is a brother of the de la Poles's I came across once only and
he was never referred to again, I think it was William. In fact
there were 6 altogether. John was eldest, Edmund was earl (though he
is sometimes called duke like his father) of Suffolk aka the White
Rose, executed 1513 (Henry VII before dying advised his son to
execute Edmund should he ever go abroad, as he did in 1513.) I have
seen Richard referred to as the White Rose, rather than Edmund. Did
the nickname get transferred? Richard doesn't die till the Battle of
Pavia in 1525. As said there is Edward who dies 1485 and also
Humphrey who dies 1513, also William who dies 1539 and one called
Geoffrey of unknown death date in the source I used. Edmund is
usually referred to as the 2nd son but this may in fact have been
Edward. Does anyone have any information about any of them other
than John, Edmund and Richard as I, for one, would be very
interested.
Brunhild