Marie Antoinette - A suitable "partner" for Richard?

Marie Antoinette - A suitable "partner" for Richard?

2014-01-15 14:39:07
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I am very interested in archeology, and so history in general. I was reading an article today on Marie Antoinette and was suddenly struck by many parallels with Richard


http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/12/marie-antoinette-never-said-let-them-eat-cake


The only problem may be that Yahoo will put spaces at random places in the url to stop it being clickable. So you will have to copy-and-paste it, but delete the spaces before you try to go to the address. This seems to be part of Yahoo Groups' security unfortunately.


I had always thought Richard's case to be unique, but now I am questioning just how much "history" as we are taught, is actually more like the survivors propaganda?


Perhaps I should not be so taken aback, when our own Sir Winston Churchill seems to have been fully aware of it:


http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/97949-history-is-written-by-the-victors


Tony

Re: Marie Antoinette - A suitable "partner" for Richard?

2014-01-16 21:21:17
liz williams
An interesting thought and an interesting piece about Marie Antoinette. I had no idea she was accused of incest with her own son, poor woman Liz
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I am very interested in archeology, and so history in general. I was reading an article today on Marie Antoinette and was suddenly struck by many parallels with Richard
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/12/marie-antoinette-never-said-let-them-eat-cake
The only problem may be that Yahoo will put spaces at random places in the url to stop it being clickable. So you will have to copy-and-paste it, but delete the spaces before you try to go to the address. This seems to be part of Yahoo Groups' security unfortunately.
I had always thought Richard's case to be unique, but now I am questioning just how much "history" as we are taught, is actually more like the survivors propaganda?
Perhaps I should not be so taken aback, when our own Sir Winston Churchill seems to have been fully aware of it:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/97949-history-is-written-by-the-victors
Tony



Re: Marie Antoinette - A suitable "partner" for Richard?

2014-01-18 10:24:35
Paul Trevor Bale
As a student of Richard's since the age of 7 and a student of the French Revolution since I was 15 I have never noticed any similarity whatsoever between the French Queen and our English monarch.
Yes the accusation of incest at her trial was a step too far for the prosecution, and it was howled down by the majority of the spectators, the women in particular, but Marie Antoinette spent her entire youth closeted away inside Versailles, knowing nothing of what her people were suffering, and seeming to care little, or show any interest in their welfare. She appeared to have no idea how low in people's estimation her reputation had sunk, appalling low by the time of the affair of the diamond necklace, a few years before the revolution began, when most people believed her capable of being involved with a disgraced bishop, a conjurer, and a prostitute, in an extraordinary plot to cheat the court jewellers of a fortune by stealing the incredibly expensive necklace they had fashioned for the queen.
When the revolution began she worked tirelessly to overturn it, encouraging her Austrian family to invade and restore her husband, who was probably bi polar and suffered bouts of intesne depression, during which his queen dominated him and the political scene. By encouraging Louis to flee abroad with his family, she condemned the monarchy to its fate, and with her treacherous correspondence with foreign powers she committed treason, so in reality she deserved her fate.
Paul
salut et fraternité [:-)]


On 16/01/2014 21:21, liz williams wrote:
An interesting thought and an interesting piece about Marie Antoinette. I had no idea she was accused of incest with her own son, poor woman Liz
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Sent: Wednesday, 15 January 2014, 14:02
Subject: Marie Antoinette - A suitable "partner" for Richard?



I am very interested in archeology, and so history in general. I was reading an article today on Marie Antoinette and was suddenly struck by many parallels with Richard
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2011/12/marie-antoinette-never-said-let-them-eat-cake
The only problem may be that Yahoo will put spaces at random places in the url to stop it being clickable. So you will have to copy-and-paste it, but delete the spaces before you try to go to the address. This seems to be part of Yahoo Groups' security unfortunately.
I had always thought Richard's case to be unique, but now I am questioning just how much "history" as we are taught, is actually more like the survivors propaganda?
Perhaps I should not be so taken aback, when our own Sir Winston Churchill seems to have been fully aware of it:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/97949-history-is-written-by-the-victors
Tony





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