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2014-03-05 07:22:05

SandraMachin

Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.html

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2014-03-09 07:25:20

SandraMachin

Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-09 15:51:37

ricard1an

Message to Mr Ashworth , he was the rightful King of England not the traitorous, lying murdering usurper who buried him. Henry Tudswynfort did not have a claim to the throne of England, he was a traitor who usurped Richard's throne, invaded England with a French army and brought havoc on our country and we are still paying for it today.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-09 16:01:40

Pamela Furmidge

Unfortunately, by the time Richard was buried, Henry VII was the rightful king of England by right of conquest. We may not like how he got there, but we cannot rewrite history.
From: "maryfriend@..." <maryfriend@...>
Message to Mr Ashworth , he was the rightful King of England not the traitorous, lying murdering usurper who buried him. Henry Tudswynfort did not have a claim to the throne of England, he was a traitor who usurped Richard's throne, invaded England with a French army and brought havoc on our country and we are still paying for it today.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-09 17:56:00

b.eileen25

Very true Mary.....I always find it baffling why Richard has gone down in history as a usurper and yet I cannot for the life of me recall every seeing HT (pot, kettle, black springs to mind) called one, Of course as they say history is written by the winners but surely after all this passage of time it might be perfectly ok to address HT as one...which of course he was....Eileen

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2014-03-09 21:06:17

justcarol67

Eileen wrote :

"Very true Mary.....I always find it baffling why Richard has gone down in history as a usurper and yet I cannot for the life of me recall every seeing HT (pot, kettle, black springs to mind) called one, Of course as they say history is written by the winners but surely after all this passage of time it might be perfectly ok to address HT as one...which of course he was...."

Carol responds:

Take heart, Eileen. Wikipedia--not always our friend, as you know--lists Henry IV and Henry VII as usurpers but mentions Richard III only as Henry VII's predecessor: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_usurpers Of course, it has the usual misstatement that Henry's marriage to EoY ended the Wars of the Roses (hardly anyone mentions Stoke Field), but at least it puts Henry in his place as a usurper and does not similarly label Richard.

Carol

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2014-03-09 21:13:45

b.eileen25

Good news indeed Carol....and thank you for pointing it out to me....I do hate injustice....which first attracted me to Richard and his story...Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-09 22:16:25

ricard1an

That's good news Carol. At last someone is telling the truth.
Mary

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2014-03-09 22:34:40

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2014-03-14 10:37:10

SandraMachin

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 15:14:30

Hilary Jones

Got it thanks!

On Friday, 14 March 2014, 10:37, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: Hilary Jones Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:26 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Let me thank you for all these before my trash minces you again! Yes, you're still being trashed - so your posts get abducted as well. H

On Friday, 14 March 2014, 8:21, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Today's offerings. http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/news/henry-viis-bed-discovered-hough-6807697 Love the serpent on the headboard. OK, it's in the Bible, coming between Adam and Eve, but in this instance it's also something that's coming between representations of HT and EoY. May be meant on more than one level? http://www.capitalfm.com/eastmids/on-air/news-travel/local-news/king-richard-iii/ This morning there were several links to items about the Judicial Review. They all say the same, but this one has what seems to be a straw poll. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 16:18:59

justcarol67

Sandra wrote :

"Love the serpent on the headboard. OK, it's in the Bible, coming between Adam and Eve, but in this instance it's also something that's coming between representations of HT and EoY. May be meant on more than one level?"

Carol responds:

Poor EoY, depicted as Eve--on one level (in the fifteenth-century view), the mother of us all, but on the other, the cause of the Fall (the serpent tempted her, she tempted Adam). Hmm. Was it Henry's own idea? If so, did it reflect his ambiguity or conflicting emotions (assuming that he felt emotions) regarding the marriage? No Tudor roses yet, I see. Maybe that was public propaganda and he didn't lie to himself about the union of (relegitimized) York and "Lancaster" (Tudor/Beaufort). Anyway, very interesting. Let's hope some of Richard's furniture (aside from the bed he supposedly slept in at the White/Blue Boar Inn) turns up. I wonder what Henry did with it. I suppose he didn't want to sleep in the bed of the man whose throne he had usurped. And what happened to Richard's household staff and servants, does anyone know? What if Henry dismissed the Tower guards without questioning them, not wanting to know where Richard's nephews were?

Carol

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2014-03-14 16:32:20

justcarol67

Sandra wrote :

"Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!items about the Judicial Review. They all say the same, but this one has what seems to be a straw poll."

Carol responds:

Unfortunately, all parties involved, including Philippa, are delaying what everyone (except the University of Leicester) wants, an honorable reburial. The longer they fight, the longer they delay. As for their treating Richard as an archaeological specimen, it's a bit late for that. He's been a specimen, not a man, to them since his discovery. And no doubt they already have his DNA (which may actually be a good thing if someone later examines Richard of Eastwell or the bones in the urn. There's more to DNA than Y chromosomes and MtDNA. (I'm going to have mine analyzed one of these days.) But, please, everyone (I mean the PA, the university, Philippa, J A-H, et al., not us), let him rest in peace. Stop the litigation, stop arguing over locations or the shoebox of a tomb or scientific testing that has already been conducted, and get on with a respectful, appropriate service. Please.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 16:45:35

SandraMachin

It's the WOTR all over again, except this time there are only supposed to be Yorkists. Well, and the university, of course. Heck knows what they are. I don't think even HT would want to claim them he wouldn't like the thought of what they'd do to his bones if they got their hands on them. He didn't give anything away, so various slivers of Tudor bone and a tooth or so would be out of the question. Sandra =^..^= From: justcarol67@... Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 4:32 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sandra wrote :
"Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!items about the Judicial Review. They all say the same, but this one has what seems to be a straw poll."

Carol responds:

Unfortunately, all parties involved, including Philippa, are delaying what everyone (except the University of Leicester) wants, an honorable reburial. The longer they fight, the longer they delay. As for their treating Richard as an archaeological specimen, it's a bit late for that. He's been a specimen, not a man, to them since his discovery. And no doubt they already have his DNA (which may actually be a good thing if someone later examines Richard of Eastwell or the bones in the urn. There's more to DNA than Y chromosomes and MtDNA. (I'm going to have mine analyzed one of these days.) But, please, everyone (I mean the PA, the university, Philippa, J A-H, et al., not us), let him rest in peace. Stop the litigation, stop arguing over locations or the shoebox of a tomb or scientific testing that has already been conducted, and get on with a respectful, appropriate service. Please.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 16:50:10

Judy Thomson

Interesting questions. And good subjects for fiction a la The King's Bed. Somewhere I've a book of interior design with a great carved bed, alleged to have belonged to "the Stanleys." Ah, one wonders where *they* got it....
As a collector of long durance, the "story"of a thing holds strong fascination. Henry himself may have felt uncomfortable sleeping in Richard's bed...but the Stanleys...?
Judy
Loyaulte me lie

On Friday, March 14, 2014 11:19 AM, "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...> wrote:
Sandra wrote :

"Love the serpent on the headboard. OK, it's in the Bible, coming between Adam and Eve, but in this instance it's also something that's coming between representations of HT and EoY. May be meant on more than one level?"

Carol responds:

Poor EoY, depicted as Eve--on one level (in the fifteenth-century view), the mother of us all, but on the other, the cause of the Fall (the serpent tempted her, she tempted Adam). Hmm. Was it Henry's own idea? If so, did it reflect his ambiguity or conflicting emotions (assuming that he felt emotions) regarding the marriage? No Tudor roses yet, I see. Maybe that was public propaganda and he didn't lie to himself about the union of (relegitimized) York and "Lancaster" (Tudor/Beaufort). Anyway, very interesting. Let's hope some of Richard's furniture (aside from the bed he supposedly slept in at the White/Blue Boar Inn) turns up. I wonder what Henry did with it. I suppose he didn't want to sleep in the bed of the man whose throne he had usurped. And what happened to Richard's household staff and servants, does anyone know? What if Henry dismissed the Tower guards without questioning them, not wanting to know where Richard's nephews were?

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 17:02:33

b.eileen25

I spoke too soon...if you go to the Leicester Mercury you will see that they, the Court, are going to reach a decision in a few weeks...the way it reads to me was that things did not go the way of the PA...but of course I could be wrong ...again. Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 17:13:13

SandraMachin

Oh, round objects! Another few weeks? Every four-letter cuss word under the sun is passing through my mind right now. But I agree, it does give the impression of not favouring the PA. Then again, it's being reported in a Leicester paper. Sandra =^..^= From: cherryripe.eileenb@... Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 5:02 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 17:35:23

Jonathan Evans

I don't think we can say who the judges will favour. All we know from quoted soundbites (Twitter was particularly good for this) is that they were critical of some aspects of the presentation of the PA case - seemingly an orotund and slightly opaque approach, when a clear argument underpinned by verifiable detail would have been preferred. But that wouldn't necessarily affect their decision, when the substantive question is one of process rather than *where* Richard should go.

I'm with Carol in that I just want the whole thing over and done with before both sides (and, unfortunately, Richard himself) become objects of derision. There's already a distinct sense of ennui (to put it kindly) if you read the online comments on various news sites...

Jonathan

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-14 18:01:34

b.eileen25

Jonathon said..."I'm with Carol in that I want the whole thing over and done with..."
I'm positive that this is what everyone on this forum desires...Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-15 08:45:09

SandraMachin

Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Press articles about Richard

2014-03-15 13:30:07

Douglas Eugene Stamate

Sandra wrote: "It's the WOTR all over again, except this time there are only supposed Yorkists.//snip// Doug here: And look what happened the *last* time Yorkists squabbled amongst themselves...

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-15 13:40:41

SandraMachin

Indeed, Doug, indeed. Lessons should be learned, as seems to be the mantra these days. Sandra =^..^= From: Douglas Eugene Stamate Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 2:30 PM To: Cc: Doug Stamate Subject: Press articles about Richard

Sandra wrote: "It's the WOTR all over again, except this time there are only supposed Yorkists.//snip// Doug here: And look what happened the *last* time Yorkists squabbled amongst themselves...

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-15 14:27:14

Jan Mulrenan

Jan here.Thank you, Sandra. I agree with you that S Orme's article/blog is worth a look & makes valid points.

On 15 Mar 2014, at 08:44, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-15 20:27:28

justcarol67

Sandra wrote:

"Something for the weekend.
http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it."

Carol responds:

Thanks, Sandra. Great article! I noticed only two small errors. Henry VII was not an anointed king when he decided where to bury Richard, and it was Richard, not Edward, who had Henry VI (re)buried at Windsor. He was originally buried in Chertsey Abbey: Richard had him moved to a (somewhat grander?) tomb in Windsor, directly opposite Edward--IMO as if he's trying to atone for Edward's sin of regicide. (Of course, Richard's enemies, including certain historians, read the reburial differently, but knowing what we do about Richard and reburials, I think we can grant him the best of motives.)

A recent biography of Henry VI by Bertram Percy Wolfe (which assesses the supposedly saintly king very unfavorably) credits Richard with the same motives as Henry V had in reburying Richard II, murdered by his father, Henry IV (Windsor was Henry VI's birthplace as Westminster was Richard II's), and suggests that Richard, who buried Henry in the second bay of the south choir aisle may have wanted the first bay for himself. The passage from Google Books can't be copied and pasted, unfortunately, and is too long to quote, but here's a TinyURL that will take you directly to it:
http://tinyurl.com/ne8pdqf
You may want to go back a page to read about Edward's treatment of Henry's body (he was clearly trying to discourage a cult developing around "Saint" Henry) with Richard's.

Carol

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2014-03-15 21:01:00

SandraMachin

Carol, that's very interesting about the first bay of the south aisle at Windsor possibly being for Richard himself. Thank you for the pointer. Sandra =^..^= From: justcarol67@... Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:27 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-15 22:33:03

Jan Mulrenan

Jan here. Thank you, Carol. I had not heard the suggestion before that Richard might have intended to be buried at Windsor.

On 15 Mar 2014, at 20:27, <justcarol67@...> wrote:

Sandra wrote:

"Something for the weekend.
http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it."

Carol responds:

Thanks, Sandra. Great article! I noticed only two small errors. Henry VII was not an anointed king when he decided where to bury Richard, and it was Richard, not Edward, who had Henry VI (re)buried at Windsor. He was originally buried in Chertsey Abbey: Richard had him moved to a (somewhat grander?) tomb in Windsor, directly opposite Edward--IMO as if he's trying to atone for Edward's sin of regicide. (Of course, Richard's enemies, including certain historians, read the reburial differently, but knowing what we do about Richard and reburials, I think we can grant him the best of motives.)

A recent biography of Henry VI by Bertram Percy Wolfe (which assesses the supposedly saintly king very unfavorably) credits Richard with the same motives as Henry V had in reburying Richard II, murdered by his father, Henry IV (Windsor was Henry VI's birthplace as Westminster was Richa rd II's), and suggests that Richard, who buried Henry in the second bay of the south choir aisle may have wanted the first bay for himself. The passage from Google Books can't be copied and pasted, unfortunately, and is too long to quote, but here's a TinyURL that will take you directly to it:
http://tinyurl.com/ne8pdqf
You may want to go back a page to read about Edward's treatment of Henry's body (he was clearly trying to discourage a cult developing around "Saint" Henry) with Richard's.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-16 03:25:07

justcarol67

Jan wrote:

"Thank you, Carol. I had not heard the suggestion before that Richard might have intended to be buried at Windsor."

Carol responds:

You're welcome. It's Percy Bertram Wolffe's suggestion (sorry I overlooked the second f in his name earlier). but it makes sense given that Edward was there and his own birthplace, Fotheringhay, didn't have royal associations. At any rate, that empty space in the first choir aisle is intriguing. That's all I know about it, unfortunately.

(Unbelievably, my spelling checker wants to change "Fotheringhay" to "woolgathering!")

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-16 07:45:50

SandraMachin

Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-16 07:56:11

Pamela Furmidge

I think, Sandra, that the writer of the comment is trying to be ironic with his or her second paragraph - they are summarising the views of supporters of the PA ......
From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>

Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-16 08:16:01

SandraMachin

Yes, looking again, I think you're right, Pamela. It was so subtle it passed over my Sunday morning head. <g> My excuse is dehydrated grey cells - I hadn't had my first cuppa of the day. Sandra =^..^= From: Pamela Furmidge Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:53 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

I think, Sandra, that the writer of the comment is trying to be ironic with his or her second paragraph - they are summarising the views of supporters of the PA ...... From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>

Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-16 08:35:31

Pamela Furmidge

I'm the same Sandra - I really need that first cup of coffee....and the second......and third......
From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
Yes, looking again, I think you're right, Pamela. It was so subtle it passed over my Sunday morning head. <g> My excuse is dehydrated grey cells - I hadn't had my first cuppa of the day. Sandra =^..^= From: Pamela Furmidge Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:53 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard I think, Sandra, that the writer of the comment is trying to be ironic with his or her second paragraph - they are summarising the views of supporters of the PA ...... From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>

Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-16 12:57:23

Pamela Bain

Me too, but I like the comments regarding licensing and future finds.
On Mar 16, 2014, at 3:35 AM, "Pamela Furmidge" <pamela.furmidge@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-17 10:05:29

SandraMachin

One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-17 12:51:28

Jonathan Evans

Hi Sandra

Thanks for finding this - by far the best summary I've read.

The author is equally good in his earlier blog on the ethics of studying the bones:

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/

Jonathan

From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
To:
Sent: Monday, 17 March 2014, 10:05
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-17 14:04:40

Jan Mulrenan

Thank you, Sandra!Jan.

On 17 Mar 2014, at 10:05, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-17 14:15:29

Pamela Bain

Yes, that was rather interesting. So is Max contemporary??? And why the to do about it? Don't have to answer, just quirky!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Jan Mulrenan
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:05 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Thank you, Sandra!

Jan.

On 17 Mar 2014, at 10:05, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Only one today.

http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral.

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Something for the weekend.

http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html

http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences.

http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling

http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty.

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM

To:

Subject: Press articles about Richard

Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester.

http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.html

ms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-17 14:44:30

SandraMachin

Pamela, there just happens to be a trial involving Max Clifford going on at the moment, and the sort of trial it is might rather include arguments over his, um, size. You can read about him at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Clifford. There are lots of sites dealing with the trial itself. I think the juxtaposition of this and the Judicial Review is the main reason for his being mentioned. I certainly hope so. Sandra =^..^= From: Pamela Bain Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:15 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

Yes, that was rather interesting. So is Max contemporary??? And why the to do about it? Don't have to answer, just quirky!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Jan Mulrenan
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:05 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard

Thank you, Sandra!

Jan.

On 17 Mar 2014, at 10:05, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Only one today.

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Something for the weekend.

http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html

http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences.

http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling

http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty.

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM

To:

Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard

Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester.

http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.html

ms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-17 14:53:12

Pamela Bain

Oh my, sorry I asked. I was just puzzled!!! OK, back to our main man.

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of SandraMachin
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:44 AM
To:
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Sandra

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From: Pamela Bain

Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 2:15 PM

To:

Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

Yes, that was rather interesting. So is Max contemporary??? And why the to do about it? Don't have to answer, just quirky!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Jan Mulrenan
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 9:05 AM
To:
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Thank you, Sandra!

Jan.

On 17 Mar 2014, at 10:05, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Only one today.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Something for the weekend.

http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html

http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences.

http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling

http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty.

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM

To:

Subject: Press articles about Richard

Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester.

One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It’s very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford’s appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html – Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard

Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here’s another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I’m only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-22 07:45:29

SandraMachin

Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-25 07:40:39

SandraMachin

Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-25 10:19:30

Jonathan Evans

Nothing particularly new in this, but nice to see an academic say unequivocally "the discovery in Leicester of the king's mortal remains has finally laid to rest the myth of Richard's hunched back".

http://staffblogs.le.ac.uk/crusading/2014/03/20/a-crusading-richard-iii/

Jonathan
From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014, 7:40
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-25 10:35:25

Pamela Bain

Thank you, as always! I am shocked by the Gloucester take on Richrard, they got it RIGHT!
On Mar 25, 2014, at 2:40 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-25 12:02:38

SandraMachin

Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. The north loved its duke', and would have understood and stayed loyal if he'd remained in the south for the time being. I know kings went on progresses, to show themselves to the people and so on, but Richard's situation was not the usual run of things. Like it or not, he was controversial, and had already been on one progress, which confronted him with rebellions. He should have been in his capital, or within a day's reach maximum, where he could keep his finger on the most important and influential pulse. I know he cherished the north but, so early in his reign, he should not have left London again. It was bad enough the first time. I want to shake him for so doing. He should have stayed in London and made absolutely, beyond-all-shadow-of-doubt sure of it, which, with his generous and courteous behaviour' and great heart', I am sure he could so easily have done. If Big Ed had made such an error of judgment, I'm pretty damned sure Richard would have been the first to point it out. So why not see his own failing in this respect? With London in full, unequivocal support, things might have been so different for him, and for England. Oh, and with MB, the Stanleys, Morton, Oxford, Northumberland and a few others in a large sack, weighted with some hefty rocks and sunk in the deepest channel of the Thames Estuary, he'd have been home and dry, even if they weren't! I know, Jonathan, I'm being carried away (without checking anything) and have overlooked a vital, undeniable reason why he had to be in Middleham. But I feel better for having a little rant. Haven't had one in a while. <g> Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing particularly new in this, but nice to see an academic say unequivocally "the discovery in Leicester of the king's mortal remains has finally laid to rest the myth of Richard's hunched back".

http://staffblogs.le.ac.uk/crusading/2014/03/20/a-crusading-richard-iii/

Jonathan From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014, 7:40
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard
Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-25 12:17:01

Jessie Skinner

Hey, Sandra, I live on the Thames Estuary, and I don't want to be anywhere near that lot, wet or dry!

Jess

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From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>;
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Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 12:02:32 PM

Nothing particularly new in this, but nice to see an academic say unequivocally "the discovery in Leicester of the king's mortal remains has finally laid to rest the myth of Richard's hunched back".

http://staffblogs.le.ac.uk/crusading/2014/03/20/a-crusading-richard-iii/

Jonathan From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014, 7:40
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard
Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-25 12:53:21

SandraMachin

Sorry about that, Jess. Wouldn't want to lower the class of your area. OK, we'll have them hauled out to the Goodwins (no one can possibly live there) at low tide and leave the wriggling sack on the hard sand as the water begins to return... I'm sure the sands can be a Sack Swallower as much as a Ship Swallower. Oh, for a seagull's-eye view. Yes, I like that thought. Couldn't happen to nicer folks. Actually, when I think of it, leaving one's enemy on the sands, well weighted, would be an excellent way of having them vanish without trace. Sandra =^..^= From: Jessie Skinner Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Hey, Sandra, I live on the Thames Estuary, and I don't want to be anywhere near that lot, wet or dry!

Jess

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From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>;
To: <>;
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Sent: Tue, Mar 25, 2014 12:02:32 PM

Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. The north loved its duke', and would have understood and stayed loyal if he'd remained in the south for the time being. I know kings went on progresses, to show themselves to the people and so on, but Richard's situation was not the usual run of things. Like it or not, he was controversial, and had already been on one progress, which confronted him with rebellions. He should have been in his capital, or within a day's reach maximum, where he could keep his finger on the most important and influential pulse. I know he cherished the north but, so early in his reign, he should not have left London again. It was bad enough the first time. I want to shake him for so doing. He should have stayed in London and made absolutely, beyond-all-shadow-of-doubt sure of it, which, with his generous and courteous behaviour' and great heart', I am sure he could so easily have done. If Big Ed had made such an error of judgment, I'm pretty damned sure Richard would have been the first to point it out. So why not see his own failing in this respect? With London in full, unequivocal support, things might have been so different for him, and for England. Oh, and with MB, the Stanleys, Morton, Oxford, Northumberland and a few others in a large sack, weighted with some hefty rocks and sunk in the deepest channel of the Thames Estuary, he'd have been home and dry, even if they weren't! I know, Jonathan, I'm being carried away (without checking anything) and have overlooked a vital, undeniable reason why he had to be in Middleham. But I feel better for having a little rant. Haven't had one in a while. <g> Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing particularly new in this, but nice to see an academic say unequivocally "the discovery in Leicester of the king's mortal remains has finally laid to rest the myth of Richard's hunched back".

http://staffblogs.le.ac.uk/crusading/2014/03/20/a-crusading-richard-iii/

Jonathan From: SandraMachin <sandramachin@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014, 7:40
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-26 04:23:14

justcarol67

Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-26 08:20:47

SandraMachin

Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra =^..^= From: justcarol67@... Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-27 17:57:26

Nicholas Brown

According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html

Nico

On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 8:20, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra =^..^= From: justcarol67@... Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-27 18:21:59

Pamela Bain

Oh my, that will turn everything on its head! I thought the mitochondrial match was good enough.
On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, "Nicholas Brown" <nico11238@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-27 18:32:21

Judy Thomson

Ah, Nico Maybe it's really Jimmy Hoffa....
Judy Loyaulte me lie

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:22 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:
Oh my, that will turn everything on its head! I thought the mitochondrial match was good enough.
On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, "Nicholas Brown" <nico11238@...> wrote:

According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html

Nico

On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 8:20, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra =^..^= From: justcarol67@... Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-27 19:10:19

Pamela Bain

Hilarious, or who knows. Since so many other Royals are list to the mists of time, could be anyone!

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On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, "Judy Thomson" <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-27 19:25:46

Jessie Skinner

Sounds a little like sour grapes to me. The evidence is not just genetic but also fits the research into where the body was said to have been buried, plus the battle injuries fit so well.
Is it possible that professor Hicks feels his academic credentials are being questioned?

Jess

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2014-03-27 19:27:30

SandraMachin

If it could be anyone descended from Cecily Neville's line, perhaps there were a number of unrecorded cousins' at Bosworth, all with back problems and uneven shoulders, all very delicately built, all cruelly and anonymously hacked to death, all buried hastily at Greyfriars...? Perhaps we should widen the search at Leicester, take down the surrounding buildings, and get down to business? We must find them all, every last one. Bring back Time Team and a clutch of JCBs, just to be sure of getting it all done in three days. Then we'll know for certain, beyond all shadow of doubt, beyond all shadow of Hicks et al. Won't we? Sandra =^..^= From: Pamela Bain Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:10 PM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Hilarious, or who knows. Since so many other Royals are list to the mists of time, could be anyone!

Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:32 PM, "Judy Thomson" <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote:

Ah, Nico Maybe it's really Jimmy Hoffa....
Judy Loyaulte me lie

On Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:22 PM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:
Oh my, that will turn everything on its head! I thought the mitochondrial match was good enough.
On Mar 27, 2014, at 12:57 PM, "Nicholas Brown" <nico11238@...> wrote:

According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html

Nico

On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 8:20, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra =^..^= From: justcarol67@... Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-27 20:03:38

Jan Mulrenan

Jan here.Is it possible that the professor just enjoys stirring people up? Especially if they're strongly pro Richard?

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On 27 Mar 2014, at 19:22, Jessie Skinner <janjovian@...> wrote:

Jess

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2014-03-27 20:44:10

Jessie Skinner

I don't think the professor likes to be proved wrong. The society was right all along. He doesn't like that because it undermines his position.
If he was wrong about that maybe he is wrong about a lot of other things.

(But then we knew that.)

Jess

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Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 07:45:14

SandraMachin

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 09:35:48

Gilda Felt

Right, and they just happened to have been buried where contemporary reports place Richard. It sounds to me as if Hicks just likes to be contrary. What a maroon.
Gilda

On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Nicholas Brown wrote:

According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html

Nico

On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 8:20, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra=^..^= From: [email protected]: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 09:52:54

Hilary Jones

But you have to be sensational to catch people's attention. Last night I stumbled upon a programme where PG was pronouncing that William Cecil murdered Amy Robsart. Actually Chris Skidmore was on too, and was rather good. H

On Friday, 28 March 2014, 9:35, Gilda Felt <gildaevf@...> wrote:
Right, and they just happened to have been buried where contemporary reports place Richard. It sounds to me as if Hicks just likes to be contrary. What a maroon.
Gilda

On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Nicholas Brown wrote:

According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html

Nico

On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 8:20, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra=^..^= From: [email protected]: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 12:35:48

Nicholas Brown

Michael Hicks isn't making much sense here. I don't think Cecily Neville's mt dna was as widespread as he suggests. Joan Beaufort did have 16 children, but only 7 were girls (one of whom became a nun). Her sons were too old to be the skeleton, and even the grandsons through the female line seem to be mostly of the wrong age group or otherwise accounted for. Even if someone of the right age and dna code did slip through, surely they would have been buried at Dadlington with the other bodies. As far as I understand, only Richard was taken to Leicester to display the body. Also the injuries, scoliosis and other circumstantial evidence suggest it is Richard beyond reasonable doubt.

So, I wonder why Prof. Hicks feels the need to stir things up. I suspect it might be to do with his general opinion of Richard. Perhaps, he doesn't think he should celebrated or honourably buried as a king. I certainly hope no one takes him too seriously.

By the way, what was the program with PG and Chris Skidmore? That looks interesting quite interesting. If it is on iplayer or you tube I'd like to have a look.

Nico

On Friday, 28 March 2014, 9:52, Hilary Jones <hjnatdat@...> wrote:
But you have to be sensational to catch people's attention. Last night I stumbled upon a programme where PG was pronouncing that William Cecil murdered Amy Robsart. Actually Chris Skidmore was on too, and was rather good. H

On Friday, 28 March 2014, 9:35, Gilda Felt <gildaevf@...> wrote:
Right, and they just happened to have been buried where contemporary reports place Richard. It sounds to me as if Hicks just likes to be contrary. What a maroon.
Gilda

On Mar 27, 2014, at 1:27 PM, Nicholas Brown wrote:

According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-dating-results.html

Nico

On Wednesday, 26 March 2014, 8:20, SandraMachin <sandramachin@...> wrote:
Hi Carol. Oh, well, we agree on point here and there. But a curmudgeon you are not! <g> Um...but I don't think MB should have had the luxury of a chamber pot! Unless it had a picture of her beloved son painted in it. Sandra=^..^= From: [email protected]: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 4:23 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Sandra wrote :
"Thank you for this, Jonathan. Reading it resurrected that awful knowledge that Richard should have been south, in London, not in Middleham. If he knew he had enemies, which he clearly did (he couldn't not know!) why did he isolate himself and leave the south ripe for conspiracy? He left the back door open and may as well have put out a welcome mat to his hungry foes. The table was laid, and all they had to do was have a good meal and discuss how to be rid of their host once and for all. [snip]"

Carol responds:

Hi, Sandra. You must think I'm an awful curmudgeon, but I'm afraid I have to disagree with you again. I suspect that the rebellions in the South and East would have occurred regardless of where Richard was and that Buckingham would have involved himself no matter what--especially since Richard had sent him to quell those very rebellions. (That may have been his mistake rather than going on progress. And an even bigger mistake was putting Morton in Buckingham's custody. Better for him to be in the most isolated and northern of Richard's castles--Sandal, maybe, but my English geography is still shaky!) Buckingham's Rebellion was easily put down (in part thanks to other Staffords, Vaughns other than the one he'd executed earlier, and the English weather). The only problem was that the rebels he didn't execute had nowhere to go except Britanny or France, so they ended up by default allied with Henry Tudor (more so after the rumors started about the Princes being dead. Things in London were under control thanks to Brackenbury, Russell, and whoever was in charge of guarding the "princesses" in sanctuary.

Unfortunately, Richard seems not to have made the connection between Lord Welles and his half-sister, who was up to her weak, wimpled chin in those plots. If only he had put Margaret in solitary confinement in the Tower with no visitors allowed and nothing but a prie-dieu and a pallet to sleep on. (Okay, I'll be charitable and allow her a chamber pot.) No pen or paper and nothing to read but a Latin Bible (if I'm not mistaken, her Latin was weak) and that manual for nuns or abbesses (I can't think of the name) so she could structure her day--wake up at dawn, wash, pray, eat, pray, read, pray, eat, pray, sleep at sunset, get up in the middle of the night to pray, sleep till dawn. That pious MB would be happy, wouldn't she? Or she could scheme and plot and bite her nails with no one to share her schemes with, and Richard would be safe from the Tydder. Assuming, of course, that Morton shared a similar fate far, far away.

If only. Sigh.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 12:35:59

Anne Angstadt

Jess -- that sure sounds like a likely reason for tossing this "opinion" in the ring--publicity and maybe setting himself up as a sort of academic agent provocateur, a future leader if the traditional view of R3 ends up losing traction in academia--so maybe not the fool he sounds like.
My understanding is that ID'ing a person dead centuries is basically the same as if they were a recent crime victim--the identification is based on as much evidence as forensic science and investigation/research can develop, that would meet a legal standard or convince a jury or judge. As such, it always remains provisional but the preponderance of evidence in this case overwhelmingly favors the conclusion that the decedent is one Richard Plantagenet d. 1485.
Or as Sandra said, we'd have to believe there was someone unknown to history meeting all these requirements *and* buried in the choir (the "highest" location) of a priory church (generally inaccessible to the public, unlike a typical church, and therefore used for high-status burials rulers didn't want to become sites of unofficial pilgrimages). Well, maybe we don't have ultimate proof it's R3 and not his unknown doppelganger who was under that asphalt, and maybe MH370 is on an uncharted island somewhere. Anything is possible, but in reality the preponderance of the evidence and probability are pretty useful guides to reality.
Anne

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 22:31:34

justcarol67

Nicholas wrote :

"According to the Daily Mail, Michael Hicks thinks the bones may not be Richard after all. He thinks they could be anyone who died at Bosworth who was descended from Cecily Neville's line. Personally, I think that is nonsense, but I was wondering if any of the soldiers from Bosworth were buried at Greyfriar's. I thought most would be nearer the battle scene."

Carol responds:

Hicks is a pimple on the nose of historical scholarship. It's not just the mitochondrial DNA that matches but the Y chromosome as well. How many people would fit that profile? Then you have the burial location exactly where Rous said it was, the battle wounds, exactly as they would have been, the scoliosis (which would result in the raised shoulder Rous described), and the light build, matching the description by von Popellau. Might not be Richard? But, then, this is the same man who thought that marrying his brother's sister-in-law somehow required a papal dispensation. And now he's an "expert" on the identification of medieval skeletons? But, from what I understand, the Daily Mail is a scandal sheet on a par with the tabloids you see in American grocery stores as you wait for the check-out clerk with headlines like "Oprah Brainwashed by Cult" and "Obama Marriage Explodes." (I know that Britain has tabloids, too, but I don't know if they're sold in grocery stores.)

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-28 22:41:56

justcarol67

Jess wrote :
"Is it possible that professor Hicks feels his academic credentials are being questioned?"
Carol responds:

As well they should be, especially if he's accepting interviews with tabloids. Next, we'll hear that he's in collaboration with Alison Weir, assuming that the Daily Mail has heard of her.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-29 02:18:04

cattivoid

Carol wrote:

<<But, then, this is the same man who thought that marrying his brother's sister-in-law somehow required a papal dispensation.>>

Carol, thank you for mentioning this, because to me it's all part of a pattern with the traditionalists, as is this latest from Hicks. They just ... can't ... let ... go.

For centuries we were told Richard married Anne without a dispensation because he was a Very Bad Man. Then, lo and behold, relatively recently a dispensation was found. Well, harrumphed the traditionalists, maybe he had a dispensation ... but it's not a good enough dispensation, so he was still Very Bad!

For centuries we were told Richard intended to marry his niece because he was a Very Bad Man. Then, relatively recently, it came to light that actually he intended to marry a Portuguese princess, as well as marry the niece off to a Portuguese duke. Well, insists at least one of Those Who Know Better, maybe so & but he only came up with the Portuguese marriage plans to save face because everyone was so shocked and disgusted by his Very Bad Original Plan to marry his niece! (Seriously, I just read that claim in a book called Blood Sisters by Sarah Gristwood.)

For centuries we were told Richard's body was thrown into a river because he was so hated because he was such a Very Bad Man. Now we have found a body, manifestly not in a river. Well, flounder Hicks and his ilk, maybe there's a body & but it's not a good enough body for this Very Bad Man!

In the words of that noted sage Captain Kirk: People can be very frightened of change.

Cathy

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-29 08:57:30

SandraMachin

Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyone http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179 http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/ and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H. http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-29 09:04:20

[email protected]

In total agreement with you Carol. I believe Hicks has a new book due out, needs the publicity.:D

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-29 11:11:11

Jan Mulrenan

Jan here.Maybe there is some rivalry here between 2 academic institutions. I wonder how the universities of Leicester & Winchester look in the rankings. Is there any connection to the discovery of what might be King Alfred's pelvis?

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On 29 Mar 2014, at 08:57, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-29 11:14:11

Gilda Felt

I'm leaving comments casting doubt on Mr Hicks' doubts. The more we can do that, the less he influences the debate.
Gilda

On Mar 29, 2014, at 4:57 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyonehttp://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/ and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H. http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Press articles about Richard
Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PMTo: SandraMachinSubject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.htmlSomeone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Some more links, including some sad news.http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.htmlhttp://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytellinghttp://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologisthttp://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htmhttp://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about RichardTwo more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AMTo: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.articlehttp://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-30 08:37:05

SandraMachin

Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire guns http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!) http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-30 09:49:57

group\_mail\_address

Has anyone seen the BBC History Magazine? They are claiming that the interview was EXCLUSIVELY for them...

http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii

Tony

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-03-30 09:50:21

group\_mail\_address

Apologies if this comes through twice, but it seems my last message (last night) yet again hasn't come through...

Please note that BBC History Magazine claims to have the original & exclusive interview that all these others are based on:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii

So please leave comments there as well, you will see some are believing him...

Check out the poll on the website about if you believe the bones are Richard's or not

Tony

Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-04 10:49:46

Gilda Felt

Truthfully, I haven't seen anyone play Richard (the Shakespeare role,) that I think looks anything how I would imagine Richard looked. Usually, they're way too old.
Gilda

On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:38 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Well, I confess I'd never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don't really know what I suppose.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning again. I've been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 sounds really worth waiting for. plus http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire gunshttp://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!)http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyonehttp://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/ and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H. http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Press articles about Richard
Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PMTo: SandraMachinSubject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.htmlSomeone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Some more links, including some sad news.http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.htmlhttp://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytellinghttp://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologisthttp://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htmhttp://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about RichardTwo more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AMTo: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.articlehttp://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-04 11:29:30

Jonathan Evans

You tend to get younger Richards when the play's done in sequence as part of the first tetralogy; older when it's performed as a standalone.

Martin Freeman's an interesting, slightly left-field choice, in that I'm not sure what his classical background is and I can't begin to guess how he'll play it. His default is "winsome everyman" (which could be an interesting way into making the audience complicit), but his range is greater than that. I'm actually more interested to hear that it's being directed by Jamie Lloyd, who has a terrifically inventive, highly-visual style, and who did a stunning production of the 'Duchess of Malfi' a couple of years ago.

Jonathan

From: Gilda Felt <gildaevf@...>
To:
Sent: Friday, 4 April 2014, 10:49
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Truthfully, I haven't seen anyone play Richard (the Shakespeare role,) that I think looks anything how I would imagine Richard looked. Usually, they're way too old.
Gilda

On Apr 4, 2014, at 3:38 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Well, I confess I'd never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don't really know what I suppose.http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning again. I've been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 sounds really worth waiting for. plus http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire gunshttp://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!)http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyonehttp://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/ and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H. http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Press articles about Richard
Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PMTo: SandraMachinSubject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.htmlSomeone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Some more links, including some sad news.http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.htmlhttp://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytellinghttp://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.htmlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologisthttp://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htmhttp://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about RichardTwo more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AMTo: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.articlehttp://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-04 16:48:52

Margie

Oddly enough, I suggested Martin Freeman to play Richard III in a positive light ages ago and pretty much got an earful from some folks on this site. But, having seen his work in Sherlock, I know he is very good, and can say more with his body language than many actors can convey with 200 words. I only wish it was not Shakespeare's Richard.
Margie

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On Apr 4, 2014, at 12:38 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-04 17:10:14

Pamela Bain

Margie, I agree. I think he is a very good actor, but I have a hard time seeing him as Richard. Almost all the actors in the UK can get more out of facial expressions and body language than a slicked up, face and other parts lifted, actor in the US any day!!! And the range of parts is amazing.
On Apr 4, 2014, at 10:48 AM, "Margie" <mdbuyingstuff@...> wrote:

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-04 18:25:47

Margie

Certainly agree with your assessment of American 'stars'. Sad state of affairs, actually.
I realize Martin Freeman is 10 years too old, but I like the fact that he can show a man of smaller stature can still be strong--which our Richard surely was.

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On Apr 4, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 01:00:44

justcarol67

Hilary wrote :

Yes what I also thought was interesting was that one of the experts doubting the skeleton's identity, Biddle I think, said there are no contemporary records saying that Richard had any visible deformity. He must have been reading this Forum. How nice when an expert agrees with you. H

Carol responds:

Except for one thing--this is now a closed forum, so he can't be reading our posts unless he's a member. I think it's more likely that he read Lin Foxhall's references to the contemporary descriptions by Rous and von Poppelau
http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-02/uol-uol020413.php
--or has done research on Richard III on his own.

By the way, Annette Carson quotes an osteologist in her blog who complains about the layout of Richard's bones in the photos, calling them "disarticulated vertebrae laid out in a convenient curve). http://www.ajcarson.co.uk/357052365 Although the person expresses doubts that the bones are Richard's, I think the point about the bones is more important. Possibly, she (or he) agrees with Dr. Biddle that the excavation was badly handled and that the Leicester team need to publish their results. More important, I think (as does Annette) that the bones were not laid out as they would have been in life (impossible on a table) and that they need to be examined by a scoliosis expert, preferably one not affiliated with Leicester University. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon with Jo ("he's a hunchback!") Appleby, that expert needs to take those contemporary descriptions and Richard's active lifestyle into account before assessing the severity of the scoliosis (which, in itself, neither confirms nor disproves that the skeleton is Richard's--though, of course, I have no doubt that it was). Why doesn't someone make a 3-D printout of the complete skeleton (before any more damage is done to it) and assemble the skeleton vertically (a la the skeleton of Lucy done by Time Team) and then put flesh (muscles and skin and hair) and appropriate clothes on it? Then and only then can we see how it would have looked in life. (Yes, I know they'd have to fake the feet and mirror-image the missing tibia from the extant one.)

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 01:21:44

justcarol67

Sandra wrote:

I hope that Thorin Oakenshield (Richard Armitage) has a few choice words for Bilbo (Martin Freeman) on the real Richard III. What a shame as I thoroughly like Freeman in The Hobbit.

And that blasted play! It's undying popularity makes it all the harder to present the real Richard to the general public. One consolation--he's quite a bit younger than Ian McKellan (Gandalf), who played the most unhistorical Richard III ever seen on stage.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 08:21:25

SandraMachin

Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 10:58:32

Gilda Felt

Someone did this. I don't remember where it was posted (Facebook?) but it was credited to the University. I could never find proof of that, though.
Gilda

On Apr 4, 2014, at 8:00 PM, <[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:

Carol responds:

By the way, Annette Carson quotes an osteologist in her blog who complains about the layout of Richard's bones in the photos, calling them "disarticulated vertebrae laid out in a convenient curve). http://www.ajcarson.co.uk/357052365 Although the person expresses doubts that the bones are Richard's, I think the point about the bones is more important. Possibly, she (or he) agrees with Dr. Biddle that the excavation was badly handled and that the Leicester team need to publish their results. More important, I think (as does Annette) that the bones were not laid out as they would have been in life (impossible on a table) and that they need to be examined by a scoliosis expert, preferably one not affiliated with Leicester University. Instead of jumping on the bandwagon with Jo ("he's a hunchback!") Appleby, that expert needs to take those contemporary descriptions and Richard's active lifestyle into account before assessing the severity of the scoliosis (which, in itself, neither confirms nor disproves that the skeleton is Richard's--though, of course, I have no doubt that it was). Why doesn't someone make a 3-D printout of the complete skeleton (before any more damage is done to it) and assemble the skeleton vertically (a la the skeleton of Lucy done by Time Team) and then put flesh (muscles and skin and hair) and appropriate clothes on it? Then and only then can we see how it would have looked in life. (Yes, I know they'd have to fake the feet and mirror-image the missing tibia from the extant one.)

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 18:08:28

Janjovian

I suspect that Martin Freeman will make a good job of playing Richard III as I believe him to be a very fine actor.
The only American actor that I would trust anywhere near Richard, and then in a modern reinterpretation rather than Shakespeare, would be Jake Gyllenhall. He is too tall but the right age, and a fine actor.

Jess From: Pamela Bain
Sent: 04/04/2014 17:12
To: <>
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 18:42:26

Janjovian

Sorry, that should read Gyllenhaal, I think Yahoo auto corrected me.

Jess From: Janjovian
Sent: 05/04/2014 18:08
To:
Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 19:03:44

Pamela Bain

I had not thought about him, but yes, he is easy on the eyes!
On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:42 PM, "Janjovian" <janjovian@...> wrote:

Sorry, that should read Gyllenhaal, I think Yahoo auto corrected me.

Jess From: Janjovian
Sent: 05/04/2014 18:08
To:
Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 20:15:14

Janjovian

He is a fine actor, and does a mean British accent. He recently did an off Broadway play that a friend of mine went to see where he sounded like something from "Only Fools and Horses".

Jess From: Pamela Bain
Sent: 05/04/2014 19:03
To: <>
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

I had not thought about him, but yes, he is easy on the eyes!
On Apr 5, 2014, at 12:42 PM, "Janjovian" <janjovian@...> wrote:

Sorry, that should read Gyllenhaal, I think Yahoo auto corrected me.

Jess From: Janjovian
Sent: 05/04/2014 18:08
To:
Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museu
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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-05 22:02:36

[email protected]

Carol wrote.
Why doesn't someone make a 3-D printout of the complete skeleton (before any more damage is done to it) and assemble the skeleton vertically (a la the skeleton of Lucy done by Time Team) and then put flesh (muscles and skin and hair) and appropriate clothes on it? Then and only then can we see how it would have looked in life. (Yes, I know they'd have to fake the feet and mirror-image the missing tibia from the extant one.)
Eva says:
What you propose seems to be a good idea. But I dread such a body replica and the
prospect of body(?) hair and badly researched clothes. Unless it was made by
another team than the facial puppet. I could not stand another disappointment about
another lost chance. And I don't believe any more , that a reproduction of Richard would show him as he would have looked in life.
But I fully agree that an independent specialist should should examine the bones.
Eva

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-07 08:57:20

SandraMachin

This time I really do give up! http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559 http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/ and also http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-07 15:00:29

Pamela Bain

I suppose it is nearly impossible for any of us to be completely happy. If they get the history/story correct, and the actor has some chops, I can manage. But if the perfect face, cannot act, I will be very disappointed indeed!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of SandraMachin
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:57 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

This time I really do give up!

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559

http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/

and also

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Today's offering.

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least.

http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!)

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Well, I confess I'd never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don't really know what I suppose.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Good morning again. I've been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 sounds really worth waiting for.

plus

http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AM

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Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire guns

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!)

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AM

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Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyone

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179

http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/

and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H.

http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AM

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Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM

To: SandraMachin

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317

and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy.

And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves!

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Some more links, including some sad news.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM

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Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM

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Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM

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Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html

And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight!

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM

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http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/

Sandra

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Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM

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Only one today.

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-07 15:25:28

SandraMachin

Tall Mr. Cumberbatch will soon have a sore back from all the bending. A dodgy back will at least give him something in common with Richard. Sandra =^..^= From: Pamela Bain Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 3:00 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of SandraMachin
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This time I really do give up!

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559

http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/

and also

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM

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Today's offering.

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least.

http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM

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Well, I confess I'd never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don't really know what I suppose.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AM

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Good morning again. I've been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 sounds really worth waiting for.

plus

http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AM

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Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire guns

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!)

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AM

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Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyone

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179

http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/

http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AM

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Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM

To: SandraMachin

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM

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Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317

and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy.

And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves!

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM

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Some more links, including some sad news.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM

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Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM

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Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM

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Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html

And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight!

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM

To:

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http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM

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Only one today.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM

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Something for the weekend.

http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html

http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM

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Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday!

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM

To:

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Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences.

http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling

http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871

http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM

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It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty.

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM

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Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm

http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM

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Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM

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Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester.

Rant over
Mary

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 00:22:14

[email protected]

Hi,sorry...........it should have read Benedict Cumberbatch. Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 00:41:05

[email protected]

Hi Eva,
Yes I do agree with you.Do you know if it's possible to buy a print of the SoA portrait because I would like to buy one? Yes Richard and Anne's portrayal by Aneurin and Faye was very moving.I think Shakespeare's version of Richard may appear to make him the villain but Shakespeare was too clever to just imply that and somewhere there is a good Richard.Can't explain it any better than that.
Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 03:12:17

justcarol67

Eva wrote :

"I also agree with you that Aneurin Barnard was very good as Richard. In fact in my opinion the couple Richard and Anne beat Elisabeth and Edward by far. But I think Cumberbatch is going to play Shakespeare's Richard,
so it does not matter if he is to tall or whatever, as we know the play has little to do with the real Richard. I would not like Aneurin as Shakespeare's Richard though."

Carol responds:

Although I'm a little sad that Martin Freeman would follow Ian McKellen's example and play "Richard" in a version of Shakespeare's play (hopefully not sent in an imaginary Fascist Britain of the 1930s) and I have no clue who somebody Cumberbatch is, I really don't care who plays Shakespeare's imaginary villain. As you say, the play has little (if anything( to do with the real Richard. It might do some good if the chosen actor were the right age and had only the merest shadow of a crooked back and if someone at the beginning or end called attention to at least some of the historical inaccuracies, but I'm afraid that as long as this play continues to be produced, it will continue to harm Richard's reputation. As Paul Murray Kendall said, "What a tribute this [play] is to art. What a misfortune it is for history."

Sorry to be an old grump, but that "Richard" (and his prototype in More) is not Richard. He (it) is of interest to me only as an enduring image that needs to be debunked.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 09:03:04

ricard1an

Absolutely agree Carol.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 10:49:57

Jonathan Evans

From: "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014, 3:12
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> Although I'm a little sad that Martin Freeman would follow Ian McKellen's example and play "Richard" in a version of Shakespeare's play (hopefully not sent in an imaginary Fascist Britain of the 1930s)
Don't understand your antipathy towards McKellen's Richard. Surely the more "distanced" the production is from the historical Richard, the better? If you're concerned that people might imagine the play to be accurate, it's the ones using a medieval setting (Olivier, Sher, Lindsay etc) that are more damaging.
What we need to do is not demonise one play, but encourage a greater understanding of the relationship between literature and history. It's not just 'Richard III' that's highly inaccurate, and too many people think something committed to print (or film) gives it some kind of objective authority. That applies not just to Shakespeare, but Weir Hicks, Gregory... And probably 80% of all films that are supposedly "historical". (I was going to say "films coming out of Hollywood", because they're some of the most egregious examples, but I decided I can hardly give the industry in Britain and the BBC a free pass on the basis of much of its recent output.)

Jonathan

From: "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014, 3:12
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Eva wrote :

"I also agree with you that Aneurin Barnard was very good as Richard. In fact in my opinion the couple Richard and Anne beat Elisabeth and Edward by far. But I think Cumberbatch is going to play Shakespeare's Richard,
so it does not matter if he is to tall or whatever, as we know the play has little to do with the real Richard. I would not like Aneurin as Shakespeare's Richard though."

Carol responds:

Although I'm a little sad that Martin Freeman would follow Ian McKellen's example and play "Richard" in a version of Shakespeare's play (hopefully not sent in an imaginary Fascist Britain of the 1930s) and I have no clue who somebody Cumberbatch is, I really don't care who plays Shakespeare's imaginary villain. As you say, the play has little (if anything( to do with the real Richard. It might do some good if the chosen actor were the right age and had only the merest shadow of a crooked back and if someone at the beginning or end called attention to at least some of the historical inaccuracies, but I'm afraid that as long as this play continues to be produced, it will continue to harm Richard's reputation. As Paul Murray Kendall said, "What a tribute this [play] is to art. What a misfortune it is for history."

Sorry to be an old grump, but that "Richard" (and his prototype in More) is not Richard. He (it) is of interest to me only as an enduring image that needs to be debunked.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 11:11:29

Paul Trevor Bale

Calm down people. Benedict Cumberbatch is not playing Richard III, he is playing a hunchback murderer in a play by some bloke called Shakespeare. Little, if any, resemblance to the king of that name I love and admire.
Paul

On 07/04/2014 15:00, Pamela Bain wrote:

I suppose it is nearly impossible for any of us to be completely happy. If they get the history/story correct, and the actor has some “chops”, I can manage. But if the perfect face, cannot act, I will be very disappointed indeed!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of SandraMachin
Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 2:57 AM
To:
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This time I really do give up!

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559

http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/

and also

http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM

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Today’s offering.

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html – well, he’s not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least.

http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ – go down the page to Poor Richard.

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ – Henry’s shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!)

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM

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Well, I confess I’d never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don’t really know what I suppose.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AM

To:

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Good morning again. I’ve been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 – sounds really worth waiting for.

plus

http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AM

To:

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Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read.

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 – Getting out the big Yorkshire guns

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html – Richard looks like Olivier? (!)

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 – Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AM

To:

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Oh dear, it would seem Hicks’ neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyone

http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179

http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/

and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard’s. As I write it’s running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H.

http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AM

To:

Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I’d written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian’s version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM

To: SandraMachin

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 11:38:22

SandraMachin

When you put it that way, Jonathan, I have to agree. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 10:49 AM To: Subject: Re: Re: Press articles about Richard

From: "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014, 3:12
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: Press articles about Richard

> Although I'm a little sad that Martin Freeman would follow Ian McKellen's example and play "Richard" in a version of Shakespeare's play (hopefully not sent in an imaginary Fascist Britain of the 1930s) Don't understand your antipathy towards McKellen's Richard. Surely the more "distanced" the production is from the historical Richard, the better? If you're concerned that people might imagine the play to be accurate, it's the ones using a medieval setting (Olivier, Sher, Lindsay etc) that are more damaging. What we need to do is not demonise one play, but encourage a greater understanding of the relationship between literature and history. It's not just 'Richard III' that's highly inaccurate, and too many people think something committed to print (or film) gives it some kind of objective authority. That applies not just to Shakespeare, but Weir Hicks, Gregory... And probably 80% of all films that are supposedly "historical". (I was going to say "films coming out of Hollywood", because they're some of the most egregious examples, but I decided I can hardly give the industry in Britain and the BBC a free pass on the basis of much of its recent output.)
Jonathan
From: "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2014, 3:12
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: Press articles about Richard
Eva wrote :
"I also agree with you that Aneurin Barnard was very good as Richard. In fact in my opinion the couple Richard and Anne beat Elisabeth and Edward by far. But I think Cumberbatch is going to play Shakespeare's Richard,
so it does not matter if he is to tall or whatever, as we know the play has little to do with the real Richard. I would not like Aneurin as Shakespeare's Richard though."

Carol responds:

Although I'm a little sad that Martin Freeman would follow Ian McKellen's example and play "Richard" in a version of Shakespeare's play (hopefully not sent in an imaginary Fascist Britain of the 1930s) and I have no clue who somebody Cumberbatch is, I really don't care who plays Shakespeare's imaginary villain. As you say, the play has little (if anything( to do with the real Richard. It might do some good if the chosen actor were the right age and had only the merest shadow of a crooked back and if someone at the beginning or end called attention to at least some of the historical inaccuracies, but I'm afraid that as long as this play continues to be produced, it will continue to harm Richard's reputation. As Paul Murray Kendall said, "What a tribute this [play] is to art. What a misfortune it is for history."

Sorry to be an old grump, but that "Richard" (and his prototype in More) is not Richard. He (it) is of interest to me only as an enduring image that needs to be debunked.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 13:57:14

[email protected]

Hi Kathryn,
I don't know if it is possible to bye a print of the SOA portrait. Unfortunately the SOA does not seem to be interested in promoting the portrait in the way the NPG does with theirs. As I was so keen on having a good reproduction of the portrait I bought the "Making History" catalog of the 2007 exhibition some years ago.
It was, of course, rather expencive, but it was worth it.There is the picture of Richard's face opposite to the picture of Edward's on two pages facing each other. Really stunning! Maybe you can look at the catalog
at a library. By the way, the catalog as a whole is very interesting, as it tells the history of the SOA illustrated with numerous pictures.
Apart from that, the best reproduction of the SOA painting I know is on Anette Carson's "Maligned King". I will be forever grateful to her for chosing this portrait for her cover, while other writers don't seem to care
what image they use.(One can see the most obscure portraits of Richard on books about him, for instance on Baldwin's biography).
There is also a website called Making History. Someone on this forum posted the address some time ago.
I will look if i can find it.
Eva

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 14:08:55

[email protected]

http://makinghistory.sal.org.uk/page.php?cat=2
Eva again,
Here is the link i mentioned.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 14:24:36

Pamela Bain

Thank you Eva&interesting site. I am not an artist, but to my eyes, I did not detect a withered arm, nor was that shoulder particularly high, given the perspective.

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of eva.pitter@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:09 AM
To:
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http://makinghistory.sal.org.uk/page.php?cat=2
Eva again,
Here is the link i mentioned.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-08 20:27:02

[email protected]

You are welcome, Pamela!
I am not so convinced about the marriage ring being worn on the left hand in the 15th century though.
I may be totally wrong, but Catholics usually wear the marriage ring on the right hand. At least we in Austria do so.The engagement ring is worn on the left hand. But maybe it was different in Richard's time.
Eva

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-09 17:03:58

justcarol67

Jonathan wrote :
"Don't understand your antipathy towards McKellen's Richard."

Carol responds:

I would have no antipathy whatever toward it if it weren't titled "Richard III" (and if the main character had another name). The problem is that resetting it in an imaginary Fascist England simply distorts history still further. If students were taught about the Richard we know in school, they could recognize the distortions for themselves. But now they're being spread far and wide. I even read about a production in China (not starring Ian McKellen, of course). I'm afraid that we will never agree on this topic.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-09 22:56:10

[email protected]

Thanks Eva,
I have looked at your link it is very interesting.It does seem a pity that they are not interested in selling prints of the portrait and Edward's either.I haven't seen or read Annette Carson's Maligned King but I will try to do so. John Ashdown-Hill has the portrait on his book The Last Days of Richard III.It was very good. With regards to Richard's wedding ring I think you are right about the ring being worn on the right.It may have been placed on the left to show he was a widower and that he was removing it to show he was contemplating marriage.I have only recently seen the ring on his little finger.It has been mentioned that ladies placed their wedding ring on their thumb if their husband was away at war or had died.Also the rings were portraits of themselves which they exchanged when they wed.With regards to the withered arm my thoughts are it didn't have to be physical it could be metaphorical.
Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-10 01:40:18

justcarol67

Kathryn wrote :

"With regards to the withered arm my thoughts are it didn't have to be physical it could be metaphorical."

Carol responds:

Other people have presented that theory. The problem is that we have no contemporary account of the words spoken at the council meeting. The first version of a humanist dialogue (invented for the occasion) is Vergil's, in which he has Richard claim that the queen's witchcraft has placed him in "great danger of death. . . ; for by the speace of a few days by past nether nyght nor day can I rest, drynk, not eat, wherfor my blood by lyttle and lyttle decreaseth, my force fayleth, my breath shorteneth, and all the partes of my body do above measure, as you se (and with that he shewyd them his arme), faule away; . . . that sorceres Elyzabeth the quene, . . . with hir witchcraft hath so enchantyd me that by thanoyance thereof I am dissolvyd.' Here, the indication is that it's all an obvious fabrication. More goes one step further and makes the withered arm real, but claims that it was that way from birth.

Almost no one who attended that council meeting was still alive when Vergil arrived in England, and no one at all survived when he wrote the piece of fiction I quoted. The same, of course, goes for More, who adds still more details (notably the strawberries) found nowhere else.

It seems to me that Vergil substitutes witchcraft for the real charge of treason, probably because he had heard such charges against EW and had no records of the actual council meeting to work from. It would, of course, have been politically correct in the Tudor era to consider any charges of treason a fabrication by the clever manipulator Gloucester.

Carol

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-10 08:17:27

SandraMachin

Good morning! http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury-Abbey/story-20932779-detail/story.html http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Historical-whodunnit-questions-king-really-prime/story-20931755-detail/story.html Forgot to send:- http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-exhibition-8211-huge-success/story-20922897-detail/story.html Well done Gloucester! http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11131487.Richard_III_returns_to_Sudeley_Castle/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard This time I really do give up! http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559 http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/ and also http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-10 09:26:57

NEIL TRUMP

From: "kathryng56@..." <kathryng56@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2014, 22:56
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Thanks Eva,
I have looked at your link it is very interesting.It does seem a pity that they are not interested in selling prints of the portrait and Edward's either.I haven't seen or read Annette Carson's Maligned King but I will try to do so. John Ashdown-Hill has the portrait on his book The Last Days of Richard III.It was very good. With regards to Richard's wedding ring I think you are right about the ring being worn on the right.It may have been placed on the left to show he was a widower and that he was removing it to show he was contemplating marriage.I have only recently seen the ring on his little finger.It has been mentioned that ladies placed their wedding ring on their thumb if their husband was away at war or had died.Also the rings were portraits of themselves which they exchanged when they wed.With regards to the withered arm my thoughts are it didn't have to be physical it could be metaphorical.
Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-10 11:11:30

Jonathan Evans

From: "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2014, 17:03
Subject: Re: Re: Press articles about Richard

Carol wrote:

I would have no antipathy whatever toward it if it weren't titled "Richard III" (and if the main character had another name). The problem is that resetting it in an imaginary Fascist England simply distorts history still further. If students were taught about the Richard we know in school, they could recognize the distortions for themselves. But now they're being spread far and wide. I even read about a production in China (not starring Ian McKellen, of course). I'm afraid that we will never agree on this topic.

Jonathan responds:
It's not particularly surprising that there are productions in China. It's a (genuinely) great drama that seems to resonate across cultures. For instance, it meant a lot in the old Soviet bloc and there was a recent modern-dress production by a Middle Eastern company (you can guess what the inspiration for that one was). It's not a story of the past. It's perhaps the best depiction of the mechanics of tyranny that there is, hence Brecht drawing on it so heavily for 'Arturo Ui'

Lots of historical figures have been traduced on stage or on the page. Richard's misfortune (and Macbeth's) is that, in his case, it was done by a genius. But I wonder if that really is a misfortune? I'm willing to hazard a guess that the Shakespeare play has been the cause of more people coming to know the real Richard than any other single factor and that, if it didn't exist, Richard would be about as well known as King John, and have many fewer people bothering to dig for the truth behind Vergil and More.
Jonathan
From: "justcarol67@..." <justcarol67@...>
To:
Sent: Wednesday, 9 April 2014, 17:03
Subject: Re: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-10 20:47:22

[email protected]

Jonathon wrote:
Lots of historical figures have been traduced on stage or on the page. Richard's misfortune (and Macbeth's) is that, in his case, it was done by a genius. But I wonder if that really is a misfortune? I'm willing to hazard a guess that the Shakespeare play has been the cause of more people coming to know the real Richard than any other single factor and that, if it didn't exist, Richard would be about as well known as King John, and have many fewer people bothering to dig for the truth behind Vergil and More.Eva answers:
For me it is certainly true that without Shakespeare's play, which I saw as a teenager, I hardly would
have got interested in him. First I was fascinated in Shakespeare's villain and then I wanted to know
all about the real Richard.
Interestlingly ,while there are a lot of plays of the great German poets as well, that deal with historical characters, I never cared much about historical accuracy there. So there must be something special
about Richard anyway.
Eva

Message for Judy

2014-04-11 09:34:30

SandraMachin

Judy, I've sent you a note, so in case it's gone in your bin (Hi, Hilary) I thought I'd mention it here. Sandra =^..^=

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 08:24:43

SandraMachin

There's so little action on the forum of late that I'm not really sure there's anyone out there to even see these posts. Where have you all gone? Still, nil desperandum! http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/plaque-to-mark-spot-where-richard-iii-project-devised.23945601 http://www.pukaarnews.com/richard-iii-ticket-prices-make-history-accessible-for-all/10062/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning! http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury-Abbey/story-20932779-detail/story.html http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Historical-whodunnit-questions-king-really-prime/story-20931755-detail/story.html Forgot to send:- http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-exhibition-8211-huge-success/story-20922897-detail/story.html Well done Gloucester! http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11131487.Richard_III_returns_to_Sudeley_Castle/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard This time I really do give up! http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559 http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/ and also http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 08:50:00

Jan Mulrenan

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 09:00:57

SandraMachin

Jan! That's akin to dangling a juicy carrot in front of a donkey and then snatching it away just as the poor animal's jaws clamp over it. How could you be so cruel? <g> Good luck with hearing JAH. He's such a busy man I'm in awe that he manages to write at all. Where does he find the time? Sandra =^..^= From: Jan Mulrenan Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:49 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jan here. No, I'm sure people are still lurking, Sandra. I'm waiting for 2 things, the next bulletin of the R3Soc due inJune (yes?) & the decision following the judicial review about going to consultation. I was at the R3Soc study weekend & heard some very interesting news, but I don't think I should say what it is until the historian has a chance to publish. Hence my anticipating that bulletin. I'm in London today to hear JAH on Clarence.

On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:24, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

There's so little action on the forum of late that I'm not really sure there's anyone out there to even see these posts. Where have you all gone? Still, nil desperandum! http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/plaque-to-mark-spot-where-richard-iii-project-devised.23945601 http://www.pukaarnews.com/richard-iii-ticket-prices-make-history-accessible-for-all/10062/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning! http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury-Abbey/story-20932779-detail/story.html http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Historical-whodunnit-questions-king-really-prime/story-20931755-detail/story.html Forgot to send:- http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-exhibition-8211-huge-success/story-20922897-detail/story.html Well done Gloucester! http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11131487.Richard_III_returns_to_Sudeley_Castle/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard This time I really do give up! http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559 http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/ and also http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Well, I confess I'd never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don't really know what I suppose. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning again. I've been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 sounds really worth waiting for. plus http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire guns http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!) http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyone http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179 http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/ and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H. http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:32:29

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Hi Sandra,

Thanks for all the posts. They are being read and appreciated. I do hope all the messages are archived for the future. It will be great to have a list/series of all the news releases at this special time within the Society. Well done.

Perhaps everyone is just busy or waiting for more information to be released about Richard's reinterment. I have missed a few days recently and it took a while to read everything so that might be a reason too.

Good luck with your new book. Richard would be proud that he is continuing to inspire and influence people and their lives. Perhaps this will be his lasting legacy to the future and the past.

Best wishes

Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:39:51

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Was this about the possible finding of Richard's daughter Katherine's place of burial Sandra.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:40:03

SandraMachin

Thank you, Kathryn. I don't post everything I'm sent, only the articles I think may be of interest. For instance, I have been sent so many about Benedict Cumberbatch & Co. that they simply have to contain the same info, just rehashed. BTW, this appeared at Amazon yesterday. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cautionary-Tale-The-New-Bosworth-ebook/dp/B00JM624ZW/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1397293048&sr=1-1&keywords=joanie+swift Interesting, and very tongue-in-cheek. Spot who's who. Sandra =^..^= From: kathryng56@... Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:32 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Hi Sandra,

Good luck with your new book. Richard would be proud that he is continuing to inspire and influence people and their lives. Perhaps this will be his lasting legacy to the future and the past.

Best wishes

Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:43:47

SandraMachin

Sorry Christine, I'm not actually sure what you're referring to. Can you remind me? My grey cells need jolting these days. <g> Sandra =^..^= From: christineholmes651@... Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Was this about the possible finding of Richard's daughter Katherine's place of burial Sandra.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:47:02

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I believe Christian Steer spoke about the possible finding of Richard's daughter's resting place in St Garlickhythe London. (Not sure if that's how it is spelt.)

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:48:34

SandraMachin

That's the first I've heard of it, Christine. How interesting. I'll go Google, as they say... Sandra =^..^= From: christineholmes651@... Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:47 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

I believe Christian Steer spoke about the possible finding of Richard's daughter's resting place in St Garlickhythe London. (Not sure if that's how it is spelt.)

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 10:52:44

SandraMachin

Oh, I've just twigged what you mean, Christine. Duh. Well, as it's pretty interesting and would cause a stir, I guess yes, it well might be. We're on the scent... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:48 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

I believe Christian Steer spoke about the possible finding of Richard's daughter's resting place in St Garlickhythe London. (Not sure if that's how it is spelt.)

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 12:09:57

Jessie Skinner

Sandra and Jan, I'm still here, and really appreciating all of the informative postings. Thank you for the lovely postcard, Sandra, and Jan, I am very jealous. I have booked some tickets for the Norwich study day in November, though.
Also, just booked our accommodation for a trip to the Bosworth Battlefield site for the beginning of June.

Jess

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Sent: Sat, Apr 12, 2014 7:49:59 AM

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 12:25:47

SandraMachin

I'm glad the postcard arrived safely, Jess. I'm sorry it's bigger than the book, but it's what Hale sent, so I won't knock it too much. I too am jealous of all these exciting outings, and have to compete as best I can. So, be prepared Abingdon. The abbey gatehouse needs inspection, and I want to imagine something resembling Wells Cathedral in the park area behind. After that, well, woe betide Wantage! <g> Sandra =^..^= From: Jessie Skinner Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 12:09 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jess

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Sent: Sat, Apr 12, 2014 7:49:59 AM

Jan here. No, I'm sure people are still lurking, Sandra. I'm waiting for 2 things, the next bulletin of the R3Soc due inJune (yes?) & the decision following the judicial review about going to consultation. I was at the R3Soc study weekend & heard some very interesting news, but I don't think I should say what it is until the historian has a chance to publish. Hence my anticipating that bulletin. I'm in London today to hear JAH on Clarence.

On 12 Apr 2014, at 08:24, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

There's so little action on the forum of late that I'm not really sure there's anyone out there to even see these posts. Where have you all gone? Still, nil desperandum! http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/plaque-to-mark-spot-where-richard-iii-project-devised.23945601 http://www.pukaarnews.com/richard-iii-ticket-prices-make-history-accessible-for-all/10062/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning! http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury-Abbey/story-20932779-detail/story.html http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Historical-whodunnit-questions-king-really-prime/story-20931755-detail/story.html Forgot to send:- http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-exhibition-8211-huge-success/story-20922897-detail/story.html Well done Gloucester! http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11131487.Richard_III_returns_to_Sudeley_Castle/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard This time I really do give up! http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559 http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/ and also http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Well, I confess I'd never have thought of this actor for Richard, but I suppose... Well, I don't really know what I suppose. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2596457/BAZ-BAMIGBOYE-From-Hobbit-hunchback-Martin-Freeman-set-appear-Shakespearean-role.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2014 9:29 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning again. I've been unwell for a few days but am back with a really intriguing article from the Yorkshire Post. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/tv-documentary-aims-to-clear-up-myths-surrounding-richard-iii-1-6537776 sounds really worth waiting for. plus http://theconversation.com/dont-panic-the-car-park-skeleton-is-almost-certainly-richard-iii-25109 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 8:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three likely entrants this morning. All worth a read. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/battle-to-bring-king-home-gathers-pace-1-6528840 Getting out the big Yorkshire guns http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/arts-diary-Richard-III-exhibition-Gloucester/story-20880468-detail/story.html Richard looks like Olivier? (!) http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/blogs/of-castles-and-kings-fotheringhay-castle-25835 Interesting article about Fortheringhay and its history. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, it would seem Hicks' neat spanner in the works is causing a few problems amid the cogs. Such publicity. Suddenly we all know who he is again. Nose no longer out of joint. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/371780/That-s-not-a-King-you-boneheads-Richard-III-remains-could-be-anyone http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/otherroyals/questions-arise-as-to-the-validity-of-richard-iii-remains-26179 http://ecampion.wordpress.com/2014/03/28/is-the-skeleton-really-richard-iii/ and BBC History Extra magazine is running a poll on this matter, inviting people to vote on whether they think the remains really are Richard's. As I write it's running 86% in favour. Lots of comments to read, including a number from JA-H. http://www.historyextra.com/news/was-skeleton-found-leicester-car-park-really-richard-iii Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more links, including some sad news. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11093398.Father_of_two_who_founded_York_s_Richard_III_Museum_dies__aged_55/ http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-festival-Gloucester-offers-chance-dig/story-20838525-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There hasn't been much to mention for a day or so, and I'm not sure if this is either, but I'm posting it anyway. It's quite cagey. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Leicester-s-Richard-III-visitor-centre-pound-4m/story-20831888-detail/story.html And here is the Gloucester Town Crier link again, because I'm trying to keep all these press and blog references under one heading. Makes it easier to check back. http://www.thememan.co.uk/up-close-with-richard/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today only something about JA-H and the Gloucester exhibition. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Discontent-Dukedom-Richard-III-festival-set-place/story-20823497-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2014 7:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Oh dear, we've become Richard's supporters' club. http://www.smh.com.au/world/richard-iii-faces-fresh-battle-in-uk-court-20140314-hvimi.html And http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-Festival-comes-Gloucester/story-20820423-detail/story.html I'll be there tonight! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, March 17, 2014 10:05 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard One link today, but I found it very interesting indeed, if not fascinating. It's very long, very well written, and is an eye-witness blog about the Judicial Review. I apologize for the mentions of Max Clifford's appendage, but the blog itself is definitely worth reading. IMHO anyway. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/16/richard-iii-in-court/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://liberalengland.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/why-richard-iii-should-be-buried-in.html Interesting quotes from a letter to the Leicester Mercury. The second paragraph of the only comment is breathtakingly incorrect, except that yes, York Minster probably is bigger and prettier than Leicester Cathedral. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 8:44 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Something for the weekend. http://stuartorme.wordpress.com/2014/03/13/burying-richard-iii-once-and-for-all/ This is very interesting and I enjoyed reading it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20809862-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11074687.Stroll_in_the_footsteps_of_kings_and_queens/?ref=var_0 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 10:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Then quick, before I disappear down the tube, here's another link regarding the Judicial Review. Philippa Langley interrupted proceedings yesterday! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Leicester-face-legal-action/story-20806459-detail/story.html?ito=email_newsletter_leicestermercury Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 3:01 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits. I'm only posting them, not expressing any opinions/preferences. http://www.culture24.org.uk/history-and-heritage/archaeology/art471950-Public-given-chance-follow-ceremonial-route-Richard-III-repeat-sold-out-storytelling http://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/update/2014-03-12/ministry-of-justice-disappointed-in-richard-iii-row/ http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/yorkists-go-to-war-in-new-fight-for-white-rose-king-1-6494765 http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/yp-comment/time-to-bring-richard-home-1-6491871 http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/03/11/does-handling-of-richard-iiis-bones-raise-serious-questions/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 7:19 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It would seem that Stoke Golding regards itself as the Birthplace of the Tudor Dynasty. http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/village-should-jumping-king-richard-6784263 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 7:37 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Some more bits and pieces concerning Richard. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Pro-Leicester-supporters-link-arms/story-20787119-detail/story.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-26520921 http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/article/1445597/how-i-found-richard-iii-underneath-leicester-car-park-archaeologist http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Pupils-from-Kings-House-Preparatory-School-in-Leagrave-visit-British-Museum-20140310105646.htm http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/03/11/richard-armitage-asked-about-king-richard-iii/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2014 7:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Two more links about the York/Leicester divide. Tit for tat in a way. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/debate/letters/battle-lines-drawn-over-richard-iii-s-remains-1-6485095 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Yorkshire-MP-blast-Leicester-claims-rebury/story-20783382-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 7:21 AM To: Subject: Press articles about Richard Here are two links to what is being planned in Leicester. http://www.designweek.co.uk/news/king-richard-iiis-story-told-in-new-12m-visitor-attraction/3038051.article http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Guided-tour-king-s-life-death/story-20750066-detail/story.htmlms to be

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2014-04-12 14:04:01

Pamela Bain

I am here and reading. I do not say much, but appreciate the updates and erudite discussions.
On Apr 12, 2014, at 2:24 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 14:23:33

Hilary Jones

Sandra, I too am working not lurking!! I have stumbled on quite a bit but need to firm it up before revealing. All I would say is forget Gipping, forget Gipping!! H On Saturday, 12 April 2014, 10:32, "kathryng56@..." <kathryng56@...> wrote:
Hi Sandra,Thanks for all the posts. They are being read and appreciated. I do hope all the messages are archived for the future. It will be great to have a list/series of all the news releases at this special time within the Society. Well done. Perhaps everyone is just busy or waiting for more information to be released about Richard's reinterment. I have missed a few days recently and it took a while to read everything so that might be a reason too.Good luck with your new book. Richard would be proud that he is continuing to inspire and influence people and their lives. Perhaps this will be his lasting legacy to the future and the past.Best wishesKathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 14:30:41

SandraMachin

So you've dug up something good, Hilary? Oooh, can't wait to find out what it is. Mind you, I have never gone for Gipping...I prefer something a tad further north. Only a tad. Next county but one. Sandra (off into the bin?) =^..^= From: Hilary Jones Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 2:23 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sandra, I too am working not lurking!! I have stumbled on quite a bit but need to firm it up before revealing. All I would say is forget Gipping, forget Gipping!! H On Saturday, 12 April 2014, 10:32, "kathryng56@..." <kathryng56@...> wrote:
Hi Sandra, Thanks for all the posts. They are being read and appreciated. I do hope all the messages are archived for the future. It will be great to have a list/series of all the news releases at this special time within the Society. Well done. Perhaps everyone is just busy or waiting for more information to be released about Richard's reinterment. I have missed a few days recently and it took a while to read everything so that might be a reason too. Good luck with your new book. Richard would be proud that he is continuing to inspire and influence people and their lives. Perhaps this will be his lasting legacy to the future and the past. Best wishes Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 16:11:02

ricard1an

Could it be Framlingham Hilary?Mary

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 16:37:17

Hilary Jones

Wrong part of the country Mary :) :) It's what you'd call a signifcant co-incidence (which I wasn't even looking for, I'm not into the PITT as you know). I'll write it up in the next day or two and no doubt someone will say they knew it all along. But a Ricardian scholar wrote a whole book on it without mentioning this particular clinching factor - no, not JAH I like to think he'd have looked further! H On Saturday, 12 April 2014, 16:11, "maryfriend@..." <maryfriend@...> wrote:
Could it be Framlingham Hilary?Mary

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 16:52:54

SandraMachin

You, you tease, you....! Sandra =^..^= From: Hilary Jones Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 4:37 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 17:10:52

ricard1an

Thanks Hilary very intriguing.Mary

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 17:51:34

Jessie Skinner

Not East Anglia, then?

Jess

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 19:13:33

Jan Mulrenan

Oh Christine, you let the cat out of the bag! I think it is St. James, Garlickhithe. It's a Wren church now.Jan.

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I believe Christian Steer spoke about the possible finding of Richard's daughter's resting place in St Garlickhythe London. (Not sure if that's how it is spelt.)

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-12 19:34:02

Jessie Skinner

Any chance of you telling us what that book was, Hilary?

Jess

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-13 07:44:18

[email protected]

Yes it is Jan.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-13 08:20:33

SandraMachin

Good morning, people. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Hundreds-enjoy-Stoneygate-festival/story-20951971-detail/story.html This made me smile. I mean, the thought of Richard having Caribbean dishes set before him... http://thebroadwayblog.com/2014/04/12/10316-vision-voices-richard-iii a review of the Chinese production of Shakespeare's Richard. And this may not be a press article, but it's worth looking at for the cover alone. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cautionary-Tale-The-New-Bosworth-ebook/dp/B00JM624ZW/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1397371263&sr=1-1&keywords=A+Cautionary+Tale%3A+The+New+Bosworth#reader_B00JM624ZW http://www.amazon.com/Cautionary-Tale-New-Bosworth-ebook/dp/B00JM624ZW/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1397373313&sr=1-1&keywords=joanie+swift Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2014 8:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard There's so little action on the forum of late that I'm not really sure there's anyone out there to even see these posts. Where have you all gone? Still, nil desperandum! http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/plaque-to-mark-spot-where-richard-iii-project-devised.23945601 http://www.pukaarnews.com/richard-iii-ticket-prices-make-history-accessible-for-all/10062/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning! http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury-Abbey/story-20932779-detail/story.html http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Historical-whodunnit-questions-king-really-prime/story-20931755-detail/story.html Forgot to send:- http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Richard-III-exhibition-8211-huge-success/story-20922897-detail/story.html Well done Gloucester! http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11131487.Richard_III_returns_to_Sudeley_Castle/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 07, 2014 8:57 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard This time I really do give up! http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2014/apr/06/benedict-cumberbatch-richard-iii-bbc2 http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/benedict-cumberbatch-to-play-richard-iii-on-tv-while-sherlock-co-star-takes-same-role.1396813559 http://www.londontheatre1.com/index.php/78326/benedict-cumberbatch-to-star-in-richard-iii/ and also http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/richard-iii-revamp-bosworth-battlefield-6912939 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2014 8:21 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Today's offering. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-head-returns-Sudeley-Castle/story-20914477-detail/story.html well, he's not in Gloucester any more, but still in the county at least. http://blogs.plos.org/onscienceblogs/2014/04/04/climate-change-report-jane-goodalls-birth-richard-iiis-death/ go down the page to Poor Richard. http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/11126898.New___39_Medieval_Pass__39__to_offer_a_full_year_of_visits_to_new_York_attractions/ Henry's shade must be having a sly titter. Muttley springs to mind. (If anyone remembers him!) Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 04, 2014 8:38 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-13 14:16:45

Pamela Bain

So very interesting......you are our newspaper maven!
On Apr 13, 2014, at 2:20 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-15 18:15:11

b.eileen25

I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Sudeley Castle and The Head

2014-04-15 19:19:07

b.eileen25

I visited Sudeley today....oh my!...the Head is beautiful. I was totally mesmerised by it. It is much, much better in the flesh, as it were, and the word that sprung to mind was delicate and strong at the same time...with just the hint of a smile. I got the impression if this face had smiled totally it would have lit up the room.
I'm so glad I had the opportunity to see the Head and I was lucky enough to be able to linger as I was the only person in the vicinity at the time as everyone else seemed much more interested in the Tudor costumes further along.
There was a big chart on the wall displaying the pedigree of the Plantagenets and the Boteler's with, unfortunately, Edward V and his brother marked down as being 'murdered in the Tower of London'. Fortunately it didn't say by whom. Sadly no mention of Ralph Boteler's daughter-in-law. Ralph was Lord Sudely and later on we visited nearby Winchcombe and it's beautiful church which Ralph had rebuilt. The Boteler chapel, where the Boteler's were buried is now known as the Lady Chapel and all the effigies have long gone. But I wondered if their remains still lay there and perhaps Ralph's son...Eleanor Talbots first husband.
Sudeley Castle makes much of it's links with Katherine Parr who lived, died and is buried there...but my favourite spot there are the beautiful remains of the banqueting house that Richard had built there...with doorways, tracery windows and fireplaces still in situ. Sat there in the sun picturing Richard there...warming himself at the fire or gazing out of the window...a very beautiful place. Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-15 20:17:56

Janjovian

Me too!

Jess From: cherryripe.eileenb@...
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I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Sudeley Castle and The Head

2014-04-15 20:21:46

Janjovian

So glad that you had such a good day. I must recommend the Boteler Chapel to my Butler friends.

Jess From: cherryripe.eileenb@...
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Re: Sudeley Castle and The Head

2014-04-16 09:48:10

Hilary Jones

Yes Eileen I am very envious!! I went to Sudeley in the early eighties; it was magical then. I went because it had starred in the George C Scott film of Beauty and the Beast. My kids still call it the 'Beast's castle'. So for those who can't get there, that film my still be available and it protrays the castle as a mystical place, which it still is. The aura of sad Catherine Parr still lingers. PS I have to say that there wasn't much difference between our George in his beast disguise and when he became the prince :) H On Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 20:21, Janjovian <janjovian@...> wrote:
So glad that you had such a good day. I must recommend the Boteler Chapel to my Butler friends.

Jess From: cherryripe.eileenb@...
Sent: 15/04/2014 19:19
To:
Subject: Sudeley Castle and The Head

I visited Sudeley today....oh my!...the Head is beautiful. I was totally mesmerised by it. It is much, much better in the flesh, as it were, and the word that sprung to mind was delicate and strong at the same time...with just the hint of a smile. I got the impression if this face had smiled totally it would have lit up the room.
I'm so glad I had the opportunity to see the Head and I was lucky enough to be able to linger as I was the only person in the vicinity at the time as everyone else seemed much more interested in the Tudor costumes further along.
There was a big chart on the wall displaying the pedigree of the Plantagenets and the Boteler's with, unfortunately, Edward V and his brother marked down as being 'murdered in the Tower of London'. Fortunately it didn't say by whom. Sadly no mention of Ralph Boteler's daughter-in-law. Ralph was Lord Sudely and later on we visited nearby Winchcombe and it's beautiful church which Ralph had rebuilt. The Boteler chapel, where the Boteler's were buried is now known as the Lady Chapel and all the effigies have long gone. But I wondered if their remains still lay there and perhaps Ralph's son...Eleanor Talbots first husband.
Sudeley Castle makes much of it's links with Katherine Parr who lived, died and is buried there...but my favourite spot there are the beautiful remains of the banqueting house that Richard had built there...with doorways, tracery windows and fireplaces still in situ. Sat there in the sun picturing Richard there...warming himself at the fire or gazing out of the window...a very beautiful place. Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-16 10:35:48

Jonathan Evans

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-17 08:07:12

SandraMachin

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-17 08:11:13

SandraMachin

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= PS Sorry, I was trying to keep Jonathan's contribution in the list (see just below) and managed to send from the wrong part of the thread, so I'm sending it again like this, for the continuity. From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 8:16 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Here is today's submission! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-Sneak-preview-Leicester-8217-s-4m/story-20955251-detail/story.html http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/11148215.Richard_III_head_extends_stay_in_Cotswolds_for_another_week/?ref=var_0 Does the picture mean the glass case didn't go to Sudeley with him? And good for Sudeley for extending our king's stay for another week. Brilliant. I'm proud of Gloucestershire! http://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/community/news/sawtry-history-society-looks-at-richard-iii-1-6000189 May be of interest to peeps in that neck of the woods? It's in Gipping Road, too. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 9:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today, and it's old ground'. Depends on your point of view whether you approve or not. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/02/140212074912.htm BTW, is it OK to simply add new content to my previous post in this thread? It's making a large file, so to speak, but it keeps everything together in sequence and in one place. I don't want to cause a jam, though, and will send separately each day if that's the preference. Opinions? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Sorry about that folks, I hit Send before I'd written a word. Anyway, only one again this morning, The Guardian's version of the Michael Hicks/Martin Biddle claims. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/27/richard-iii-remains-leicester-doubt-car-park-academics Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:36 PM To: SandraMachin Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Eileen found this and I'm posting it for her. Words fail us both, I think. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2590638/Skeleton-car-park-NOT-Richard-III-Experts-cast-doubts-accuracy-DNA-datin Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 7:40 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Suitable links have been thin on the ground for the last couple of days (well, virtually nonexistent as being worth posting) but this one, if brief, is certainly of interest to us. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/hunt-set-to-begin-for-richard-iii-s-favourite-york-haunt-1-6518317 and then there's this. http://www.gloucestercitizen.co.uk/Reader-letter-Richard-III-killer-king-did-just/story-20845201-detail/story.html Someone's view of Richard's reign and legacy. And I'm going to see the exhibition again on Thursday just to be certain I didn't miss anything the first time. And I've got until the 30th to maybe take one last look. I'll be bereft when it leaves! Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2014 7:45 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-17 14:18:40

SandraMachin

Oh, dear, not a good day for the grey cells. Having messed up first thing, I then proceeded to mess up again by listing something Jonathan had already posted. Must have been looking in the other direction at the time. An ice-pack or something similar is needed to finally numb my brain into submission. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= PS Sorry, I was trying to keep Jonathan's contribution in the list (see just below) and managed to send from the wrong part of the thread, so I'm sending it again like this, for the continuity. From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-19 08:10:53

SandraMachin

Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-20 08:56:07

SandraMachin

A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-20 09:07:42

Jan Mulrenan

Thank you, Sandra, & a happy Easter to you despite the weather. The rain has just set in here in Kent.Richard Buckley is probably having the time of his life. I hope he puts a few journalists right about their descriptions of the king. Horse racing was the sport of kings in Charles II's day, wasn't it? I'm sure our king would have taken to it & that he enjoyed a good gallop out hunting.Jan.

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On 20 Apr 2014, at 08:55, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-20 09:24:46

ricard1an

Hmm maybe Mr Taylor needs to understand the difference between scoliosis and kyphosis..

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-21 08:15:50

SandraMachin

Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html As a grandmother whose grandson was born with a cleft lip and palate, and is on the autistic spectrum, I have no time for government decisions concerning the legal aid system. My grandson's problem are due to the medication his mother has to take, medication that was known to cause birth defects and about which the pharmaceutical company was less than forthcoming. The case, involving hundreds of similarly affected children, was well in hand to sue this clearly culpable company...until the present government decided to withdraw legal aid for such cases. I think this was an important case for the futures of those children, and would like to know why it is OK to grant legal aid to a group like the Plantagenet Alliance (which can hardly be described as Richard's close family, yet has been able to make free with public funding) but not OK to assist damaged children. Rant over, but it's something about which I feel very strongly. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-21 11:25:07

Pamela Bain

I certainly understand.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 2:15 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-21 13:09:08

Jan Mulrenan

I certainly understand.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 2:15 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-21 13:25:36

SandraMachin

Jan, you'll find out more about it (if you wish) at http://www.theguardian.com/law/2011/jan/28/legal-aid-withdrawn-birth-defects To have pursued the case without legal aid would have entailed the risk of losing thousands of pounds for each family, the forfeiting of homes and savings, and so on. So, OK if the case had been won, but devastation if it was lost. So the case was dropped, and the pharmaceutical company was even able to demand that the families must sign over their future rights and promise not to raise such a case again. Unbelievable, but true. I believe my grandson, and the other affected children, will be able to bring a case on their own behalf when they are older, but the parents/guardians cannot. And the lack of funds will still apply in the future, no doubt. It's a stitch-up. I'll shut up now, because the forum is for Richard. Sandra =^..^= From: Jan Mulrenan Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 1:09 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jan here. Who said that there is no justice, only the law? What justification was offered for refusing legal aid to those pursuing your grandson's cause? It sounds like an accountant's decision. You are entitled to rant about it.

On 21 Apr 2014, at 11:25, Pamela Bain <pbain@...> wrote:

I certainly understand.
On Apr 21, 2014, at 2:15 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html As a grandmother whose grandson was born with a cleft lip and palate, and is on the autistic spectrum, I have no time for government decisions concerning the legal aid system. My grandson's problem are due to the medication his mother has to take, medication that was known to cause birth defects and about which the pharmaceutical company was less than forthcoming. The case, involving hundreds of similarly affected children, was well in hand to sue this clearly culpable company...until the present government decided to withdraw legal aid for such cases. I think this was an important case for the futures of those children, and would like to know why it is OK to grant legal aid to a group like the Plantagenet Alliance (which can hardly be described as Richard's close family, yet has been able to make free with public funding) but not OK to assist damaged children. Rant over, but it's something about which I feel very strongly. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-21 16:57:52

Jan Mulrenan

Thank you, Sandra. I did have a look.Jan.

On 21 Apr 2014, at 13:25, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 08:30:27

SandraMachin

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 11:05:04

Gilda Felt

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."
Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are.http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next!and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:-http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra=^..^= From: Jonathan EvansSent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 11:36:11

Pamela Bain

I certainly agree, and it would not be my choice.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 2:30 AM, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 11:38:20

Pamela Bain

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 12:31:49

Gilda Felt

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?
Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are.http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next!and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:-http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra=^..^= From: Jonathan EvansSent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 12:34:25

Pamela Bain

I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 15:24:55

Gilda Felt

Oh, okay, thanks for explaining. :-)
Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are.http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next!and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:-http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra=^..^= From: SandraMachinSent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning.http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra=^..^= From: Jonathan EvansSent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AMTo: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 15:36:48

Pamela Bain

And I took a little more umbrage, because of the portrayal of Richard III!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Gilda Felt
Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:25 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Oh, okay, thanks for explaining. :-)

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....

On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today – for its ‘horrible fascination’ factor.

http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html – Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it’s brilliant.

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM

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Only one today.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM

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A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester – hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are.

http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html – Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html – My word, he is busy. He’ll be on Celebrity Big Brother next!

and a review of Jude Morgan’s The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:-

http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM

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Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee.

http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ – No names for the argumentative historians.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html – Ummmmm....

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM

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Nothing yesterday, and one ‘strange’ little item for this morning.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Everything else was old ground, so to speak.

Sandra

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From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 16:34:04

SandraMachin

Richard still rivets us all, Pamela...unfortunately, he attracts the weirdies as well. The woodwork seems to be full of holes, but in this instance it wouldn't be legal to apply the Rentokil. Sandra =^..^= From: Pamela Bain Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 3:36 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

And I took a little more umbrage, because of the portrayal of Richard III!

From: [mailto:] On Behalf Of Gilda Felt
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Oh, okay, thanks for explaining. :-)

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 7:34 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....

On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor.

http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant.

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Only one today.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html

Sandra

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From: SandraMachin

Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM

To:

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http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next!

and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:-

http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee.

http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm....

Sandra

=^..^=

From: SandraMachin

Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM

To:

Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning.

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Everything else was old ground, so to speak.

Sandra

=^..^=

From: Jonathan Evans

Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM

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Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

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I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 16:50:57

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Nothing wrong with gender-blind casting in theory - e.g. Fiona Shaw was a terrific Richard II in amongst a male cast for the National Theatre a few years ago and Harriet Walter recently won raves as Brutus in an all-female 'Julius Caesar' at the Donmar - but this does seem excessively (stupidly?) gimmicky...

Jonathan

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Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 11:34:23 AM

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda

On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 17:25:51

SandraMachin

I just don't like it. Richard II was dubious regarding gender, but even so I believe he should only be portrayed by a man. Richard III was very definitely masculine, a king who behaved like a king, on and off the battlefield, so IMHO he should be played by a man. Back in Shakespeare's day you couldn't have women on stage, so boys/men played female roles, but that went by the boards, so to speak. Now it's reversed, and they're playing men? Shakespeare may have been broad-minded and would approve (maybe), but not me, I'm afraid. In my view, the Bard wrote Richard III as a true man, and that's how he should be portrayed. If we have to have that darned play at all, that is. Sandra Stick-in-the-Mud =^..^= From: jmcevans98@... Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:48 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jonathan

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From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>;
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Sent: Wed, Apr 23, 2014 11:34:23 AM

I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 20:25:03

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Jan here.There has been an all-female Richard III done already but it was some years ago & it passed me by entirely. This looks like another outfit jumping on the bandwagon; I feel the Cumberbatch & Freeman performances are bandwagon ideas as well, but I would expect some good work from those two. I might even read the critics but I bet tickets will be sold out very quickly & I won't get one. Oh what a shame! Sent from Windows Mail From: SandraMachin
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To:

Jonathan

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I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-23 22:54:36

Jonathan Evans

Jonathan

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I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

From: "cherryripe.eileenb@..." <cherryripe.eileenb@...>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 15 April 2014, 18:15
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard
I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-24 00:11:39

SandraMachin

Hello Jonathan. I am afraid that I do not like seeing one sex played by the other, unless it is the truth or part of the fiction. Or pantomime. I certainly feel very uncomfortable when it is applied to actual historical figures. I do not think I could ever watch a woman playing a man, or the other way around, and see only the character. To me the whole idea is creepy, and certainly does not make me want to think again about what I am seeing. Aten's glorious rays and tiny hands do not reach down to bring me out of mere existence and into vibrant life. My understanding and judgement isn't altered or my inner eye opened at last, I merely do not like what is before me. No matter what RII's real character, I still think he should be portrayed by a male actor. He may have been attracted to men, and to women as well, but probably he was seldom physically attracted to anyone, only mentally. He had his favourites but he loved his first wife too. Maybe he was ac/dc, I don't know, but a man he remained, not a woman. Even worse to see Richard III played by a woman, because he was clearly male through and through. I don't care how good an actress might be, she is still female, and even in Shakespeare Richard was very definitely masculine. And I would never see the Bard's Richard III with more clarity simply because a brilliant actress is dressed up to look and behave like him. But I might be induced to think again if, say, we have Dame Judi Dench playing William the Conqueror, Attila the Hun, or, better still, Oliver Cromwell. Now, her Cromwell would be worth watching. I can see her now, with a shiny breastplate, big boots, warts and all, her voice like gravel. But I doubt very much if I could take it seriously. Forgive me for resorting to levity, but---to me---gender-swapping for the hell of it is an affectation that does not really say anything about the play or characters, but a great deal about those who conceive, produce and direct the show. I don't like Picasso either, which probably says all you need to know about me! Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:54 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

It's a vexed subject, and I don't think you're stick in the mud. Gender-blind, in a sense, is the new colour-blind, which tends to work better in theatre than a more naturalistic medium.

Is it just Richard III being played by a woman that bothers you, or do you object equally to, say, the Fiona Shaw Richard II? The whole point of such a performance is that you forget the gender of the actor and just see the character.

I should also add that, if you're attempting something radical, you generally need to be better than the norm to carry it off. In other words, you need to be as good as a Fiona Shaw or a Harriet Walter, which very few actors are...

The other key thing is to separate the real Richard from the Shakespeare play ("How I learned to stop worrying and love the bard," to paraphrase 'Doctor Strangelove'?). Both are utterly different and neither are going away.

Jonathan
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I just don't like it. Richard II was dubious regarding gender, but even so I believe he should only be portrayed by a man. Richard III was very definitely masculine, a king who behaved like a king, on and off the battlefield, so IMHO he should be played by a man. Back in Shakespeare's day you couldn't have women on stage, so boys/men played female roles, but that went by the boards, so to speak. Now it's reversed, and they're playing men? Shakespeare may have been broad-minded and would approve (maybe), but not me, I'm afraid. In my view, the Bard wrote Richard III as a true man, and that's how he should be portrayed. If we have to have that darned play at all, that is. Sandra Stick-in-the-Mud =^..^= From: jmcevans98@... Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:48 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jonathan

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I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III?

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl."

Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-24 08:59:21

Hilary Jones

Exactly. I think it's much easier to forget about gender than if the build or age is completely wrong. I just couldn't get my head round Simon Russell-Beale's Richard (though SRB's a good actor) - a bald portly Richard no!! Yet talking of age, I saw Peggy Ashcroft at the RSC playing a 17 year old MOA and she was magical - it was all to do with the way she moved. I would quickly add that I was very young at the time - it was a school trip, you know the ones where everyone falls in love with the dastardly villain and lets out a hugh sigh when he dies. H On Wednesday, 23 April 2014, 22:54, Jonathan Evans <jmcevans98@...> wrote:
It's a vexed subject, and I don't think you're stick in the mud. Gender-blind, in a sense, is the new colour-blind, which tends to work better in theatre than a more naturalistic medium.

Is it just Richard III being played by a woman that bothers you, or do you object equally to, say, the Fiona Shaw Richard II? The whole point of such a performance is that you forget the gender of the actor and just see the character.

I should also add that, if you're attempting something radical, you generally need to be better than the norm to carry it off. In other words, you need to be as good as a Fiona Shaw or a Harriet Walter, which very few actors are...

The other key thing is to separate the real Richard from the Shakespeare play ("How I learned to stop worrying and love the bard," to paraphrase 'Doctor Strangelove'?). Both are utterly different and neither are going away.

Jonathan

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I just don't like it. Richard II was dubious regarding gender, but even so I believe he should only be portrayed by a man. Richard III was very definitely masculine, a king who behaved like a king, on and off the battlefield, so IMHO he should be played by a man. Back in Shakespeare's day you couldn't have women on stage, so boys/men played female roles, but that went by the boards, so to speak. Now it's reversed, and they're playing men? Shakespeare may have been broad-minded and would approve (maybe), but not me, I'm afraid. In my view, the Bard wrote Richard III as a true man, and that's how he should be portrayed. If we have to have that darned play at all, that is. Sandra Stick-in-the-Mud =^..^= From: jmcevans98@... Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:48 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing wrong with gender-blind casting in theory - e.g. Fiona Shaw was a terrific Richard II in amongst a male cast for the National Theatre a few years ago and Harriet Walter recently won raves as Brutus in an all-female 'Julius Caesar' at the Donmar - but this does seem excessively (stupidly?) gimmicky... Jonathan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>;
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I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III? Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl." Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

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Press articles about Richard

2014-04-24 15:41:25

Douglas Eugene Stamate

SandraMachin wrote: //snip// "I do not think I could ever watch a woman playing a man, or the other way around, and see only the *character.*" (my emphasis) //snip// Doug here: FWIW, I've always understood that, gimmickry aside, a *major* reason for switching genders in portrayals of various characters in plays was to make the viewer look at his/her preconceptions of just what constitutes "masculine" or "feminine" and how the *viewer* responds to a character who was previously performed as male, doing and, saying, things one expects to hear from a male, now being done, and said, by a female. And it's not as if, even in the 21st century, many don't *still* view something done by a *man* differently, very much so sometimes, than when the exact same thing is done by a *woman.* If *that's* the reason for the "switch" (and it's well-done, of course), I'd imagine the viewer might get a lot from such a performance. I would also imagine that, simply by placing lines written for one gender in the mouth of the other gender, the lines themselves might receive more attention - just as one takes note when soemthing is out of place? //snip// "Forgive me to resorting to levity, but--to me---gender-swapping for the hell of it is an affection that does not really say anything about the play or characters, but a great deal about those who conceive, produce and direct the show." //snip// Doug again: There *is* the problem, of course, that in Shakespeare's "Richard III", Richard is portrayed as such a conniving, two-faced, power-hungry villain that, *should* the gender be reversed, it may come across as a beautifully written (which it is - more's the pity!) version of "Heathers" or others of that ilk. I can't see me taking in such a performance in one sitting, but I *might* view it a bit at a time should I have a DVD or some such recording. It would be - interesting. Doug (who really likes the idea of Dame Judi as Cromwell, holding her more radical followers in check while trying to establish a "Rule of the Saints" that still retained the recognition of the basic rights of all English*women!* And Picasso is an acquired taste anyway - much like craft beers.)

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-24 15:42:32

Jonathan Evans

Hi Sandra

Yes, it's all individual preference and nothing anyone need apologise for. Gender-blind casting isn't particularly a preference of mine and it takes an actor of the quality of a Fiona Shaw or Harriet Walter to make it a proposition worth contemplating (just as I don't generally see Titania as a role for someone in their seventies, but I'll make an exception for Judi Dench). Also, gender reversed in a play that's otherwise conventionally cast is probably a trickier sell than an all-female or all-male production. With the latter, you soon relax into the overall aesthetic - and the Donmar 'Julius Caesar' had a framing device that made explicit why one of Shakespeare's most "male" plays was cast entirely with women. Don't want to drag on about this (no pun intended), but there was one thing I wanted to respond to. You said:

"No matter what RII's real character, I still think he should be portrayed by a male actor. He may have been attracted to men, and to women as well, but probably he was seldom physically attracted to anyone, only mentally. He had his favourites but he loved his first wife too. Maybe he was ac/dc, I don't know, but a man he remained, not a woman."

This would be cross-gender casting at its most crass and is not what it should mean. Fiona Shaw can appear quite androgynous, but her Richard II wasn't predicated upon any notions of effeminacy (and I've seen the part played with a greater degree of camp by several male actors - most recently Ben Whishaw in 'The Hollow Crown'). In fact, her own gender went out of the window as soon as she stepped on stage and she was costumed to appear oddly sexless and ethereal - which is an interesting and valid take on the character.

Anyway, from the sublime to the ridiculous, there's a growing trend at the opposite end of the scale for Lady Bracknell to be a role offered to men. David Suchet - presumably minus his Poirot moustache - will be the latest to strap on a corset...

Jonathan

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Hello Jonathan. I am afraid that I do not like seeing one sex played by the other, unless it is the truth or part of the fiction. Or pantomime. I certainly feel very uncomfortable when it is applied to actual historical figures. I do not think I could ever watch a woman playing a man, or the other way around, and see only the character. To me the whole idea is creepy, and certainly does not make me want to think again about what I am seeing. Aten's glorious rays and tiny hands do not reach down to bring me out of mere existence and into vibrant life. My understanding and judgement isn't altered or my inner eye opened at last, I merely do not like what is before me. No matter what RII's real character, I still think he should be portrayed by a male actor. He may have been attracted to men, and to women as well, but probably he was seldom physically attracted to anyone, only mentally. He had his favourites but he loved his first wife too. Maybe he was ac/dc, I don't know, but a man he remained, not a woman. Even worse to see Richard III played by a woman, because he was clearly male through and through. I don't care how good an actress might be, she is still female, and even in Shakespeare Richard was very definitely masculine. And I would never see the Bard's Richard III with more clarity simply because a brilliant actress is dressed up to look and behave like him. But I might be induced to think again if, say, we have Dame Judi Dench playing William the Conqueror, Attila the Hun, or, better still, Oliver Cromwell. Now, her Cromwell would be worth watching. I can see her now, with a shiny breastplate, big boots, warts and all, her voice like gravel. But I doubt very much if I could take it seriously. Forgive me for resorting to levity, but---to me---gender-swapping for the hell of it is an affectation that does not really say anything about the play or characters, but a great deal about those who conceive, produce and direct the show. I don't like Picasso either, which probably says all you need to know about me! Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:54 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard It's a vexed subject, and I don't think you're stick in the mud. Gender-blind, in a sense, is the new colour-blind, which tends to work better in theatre than a more naturalistic medium.

Is it just Richard III being played by a woman that bothers you, or do you object equally to, say, the Fiona Shaw Richard II? The whole point of such a performance is that you forget the gender of the actor and just see the character.

I should also add that, if you're attempting something radical, you generally need to be better than the norm to carry it off. In other words, you need to be as good as a Fiona Shaw or a Harriet Walter, which very few actors are...

The other key thing is to separate the real Richard from the Shakespeare play ("How I learned to stop worrying and love the bard," to paraphrase 'Doctor Strangelove'?). Both are utterly different and neither are going away.

Jonathan
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I just don't like it. Richard II was dubious regarding gender, but even so I believe he should only be portrayed by a man. Richard III was very definitely masculine, a king who behaved like a king, on and off the battlefield, so IMHO he should be played by a man. Back in Shakespeare's day you couldn't have women on stage, so boys/men played female roles, but that went by the boards, so to speak. Now it's reversed, and they're playing men? Shakespeare may have been broad-minded and would approve (maybe), but not me, I'm afraid. In my view, the Bard wrote Richard III as a true man, and that's how he should be portrayed. If we have to have that darned play at all, that is. Sandra Stick-in-the-Mud =^..^= From: jmcevans98@... Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 4:48 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing wrong with gender-blind casting in theory - e.g. Fiona Shaw was a terrific Richard II in amongst a male cast for the National Theatre a few years ago and Harriet Walter recently won raves as Brutus in an all-female 'Julius Caesar' at the Donmar - but this does seem excessively (stupidly?) gimmicky... Jonathan Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android From: Pamela Bain <pbain@...>;
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I was thinking about the actors who have portrayed other genders, but as far as I know, none of those were actual historic figures, but fictional characters.
On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:31 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I don't understand. Who are not historic figures, the actor and actress? And how does that tie in with them playing Richard III? Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Pamela Bain wrote:

Well maybe, but they are not historic figures....
On Apr 23, 2014, at 5:05 AM, "Gilda Felt" <gildaevf@...> wrote:

I suppose it's slightly better than the Richard Dreyfuss take on the role in "The Goodbye Girl." Gilda On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:30 AM, SandraMachin wrote:

Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-25 08:07:04

SandraMachin

A quiet couple of days, and only one this morning. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/books/science-behind-the-story-of-richard-s-remains-1-6577778 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:30 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-04-25 14:18:34

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-01 18:20:05

Jan Mulrenan

Thanks, Sandra! I haven't seen that image of the king shown on royalcentral before. Jan. Sent from Windows Mail From: SandraMachin
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Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-01 18:25:02

SandraMachin

I will, Jan. I'll write a report', as I did for the Richard III Exhibition in Gloucester in March. Whatever I see that is interesting, I will tell you. Sandra =^..^= From: Jan Mulrenan Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 6:18 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Well, he signed mine when I asked at the last London branch meeting I attended. Please tell us what you thought of the funeral crown as I doubt I shall get to see that. Jan, currently in Oban, Scotland.

On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:57, "SandraMachin" <sandramachin@...> wrote:

Nor me, Jan. I'd like to know how many copies of copies of copies there are, and which ones are the oldest. Most of all, I'd like the originals to be found, the ones for which Richard must have sat at least once in life. I want... I want everything! But I'll settle for going to Tewkesbury on Saturday to see the funeral crown JAH has been so inspired and generous to provide. He will be signing his Clarence book. I'll be taking my copy along in the hope of getting his signature. Hey, perhaps I should take all my JAH books! Perhaps not... Sandra =^..^= From: janmulrenan@... Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:44 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Thanks, Sandra! I haven't seen that image of the king shown on royalcentral before. Jan. Sent from Windows Mail From: SandraMachin
Sent: Wednesday, 30 April 2014 16:56
To: Late today I've been on a day out to Minster Lovell and to see the holy well at St Margaret's Church, Binsey, Oxon. The first was seen in the mist, and the latter was very quiet and peaceful. Both were atmospheric. People still leave flowers at the well. Worth a visit. However, here are some links for today. Nothing to set the world on fire, I'm afraid. http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/royalhistory/richard-iiis-funeral-crown-to-go-on-show-29187 nothing new, I think. http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/competitions/leicester-seeks-designer-for-richard-iii-public-realm-strategy/8661912.article if you're interested, you have to register to find out more. Don't all rush. http://www.historyextra.com/feature/history-weekend-2014-preview-5-minutes-with%E2%80%A6-chris-skidmore-mp Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard We're in the doldrums regarding interesting articles about Richard. I'm sure you don't want to read more about petitions for where he is to be buried, how many awards the Leicester team are getting or what's what in the latest productions of the Shakespeare play unless it's something really exciting and different...or just plain weird. So all I have to offer today is:- http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/new-history-trail-richard-iii-7029230 No doubt we'll be inundated with links when the judicial review is finally settled. Soon please! The suspense is awful. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Bemusement has set in. Imagine the Confused Smile Emoticon. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Royal-role-ex-Alton-Towers-boss/story-21011537-detail/story.html Cable ride over the car park, anyone? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A quiet couple of days, and only one this morning. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/books/science-behind-the-story-of-richard-s-remains-1-6577778 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:30 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

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I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-01 21:30:09

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Jan wrote
I haven't seen that image of the king shown on royal central before.

Eva answers:
Hi Jan,
As I knew I had seen this picture- and disliked it- on the Website of the Worcestershire Branch, I become
curious and goggled a little. This painting is called " Posthumous portrait of Richard III", 1580-1610,
English school, oil on pane, according to the Brightman Library. And it belongs to Sir Tim Rice.

Hi Sandra,
I understand that you would like to see a contemporary portrait of Richard. But I think we can be
quite happy to have a near contemporary copy of good quality in the SOA portrait. If you think of it,
there exists no portrait of comparable quality of Edward IV, Henry VI or any of the other important
men of his time. And I will say it again, the original must have been really very good to make it
possible for a gifted painter to make such a convincing copy.
Eva

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-02 08:10:03

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-05 08:39:04

SandraMachin

Nothing but Shakespeare's Richard for a couple of days. Let's ring the changes at Tewkesbury:- http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/crown-for-richard-iii-during-re-burial-ready_929700.html http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-goes-display/story-21052934-detail/story.html two really decent pictures, including one of JA-H holding the crown. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:09 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard You may have seen this before, but it does show Richard's funeral crown in its final form, all the precious stones in place. Can't wait to see it in the flesh' tomorrow. Thank you JA-H! http://www.itv.com/news/central/2014-05-01/richard-iii-funeral-crown-to-be-unveiled-in-tewkesbury/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:56 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Late today I've been on a day out to Minster Lovell and to see the holy well at St Margaret's Church, Binsey, Oxon. The first was seen in the mist, and the latter was very quiet and peaceful. Both were atmospheric. People still leave flowers at the well. Worth a visit. However, here are some links for today. Nothing to set the world on fire, I'm afraid. http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/royalhistory/richard-iiis-funeral-crown-to-go-on-show-29187 nothing new, I think. http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/competitions/leicester-seeks-designer-for-richard-iii-public-realm-strategy/8661912.article if you're interested, you have to register to find out more. Don't all rush. http://www.historyextra.com/feature/history-weekend-2014-preview-5-minutes-with%E2%80%A6-chris-skidmore-mp Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard We're in the doldrums regarding interesting articles about Richard. I'm sure you don't want to read more about petitions for where he is to be buried, how many awards the Leicester team are getting or what's what in the latest productions of the Shakespeare play unless it's something really exciting and different...or just plain weird. So all I have to offer today is:- http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/new-history-trail-richard-iii-7029230 No doubt we'll be inundated with links when the judicial review is finally settled. Soon please! The suspense is awful. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Bemusement has set in. Imagine the Confused Smile Emoticon. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Royal-role-ex-Alton-Towers-boss/story-21011537-detail/story.html Cable ride over the car park, anyone? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A quiet couple of days, and only one this morning. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/books/science-behind-the-story-of-richard-s-remains-1-6577778 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:30 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-06 17:42:38

maroonnavywhite

The Yorkshire Post has an excellent article on a prominent author joining the fight to have Richard buried in Yorkshire: http://m.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-07 08:15:56

SandraMachin

A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-08 09:20:09

SandraMachin

Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-09 08:11:34

SandraMachin

Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-13 08:06:16

SandraMachin

Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I'm afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-13 15:02:48

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Hi Sandra,

I have just recently seen the film Sea Biscuit again. The young male lead Toby Mcquire would make a good Richard. Similar looks, now aged 38 but still youthful and is sensitive and thoughtful in his acting.

Kathryn x

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-13 15:31:51

ricard1an

Sounds interesting but I am worried about" Richard's life ". Will they be telling the truth or the extremely badly researched version provided by More, Hicks, Weir, and Licence? They ought to be consulting the Society about this. Happy to go and visit when it is finished but my goodness they will get an earful if they make any mistakes.
Mary

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-14 18:20:45

Jessie Skinner

I usually access Yahoo Mail from my Kindle or my phone, I noticed how little mail I was receiving, and that although I was getting some posts they didn't always run sequentially and I had replies to messages I hadn't received.
I checked on my laptop today and they are all there.
I will use the computer to check my mail in future, but I thought I should just give a warning in case anyone else has been affected.

Jess

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-14 18:35:20

SandraMachin

Hi Jess. Posts have been pretty thin on the ground anyway of late. The lull before the storm? When the judicial decision is finally made, I imagine we'll be a hive of activity again. Provided we haven't lost the will to draw breath in the meantime, of course... <g> Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:18 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jess

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-14 18:43:30

Jessie Skinner

Hopefully we will still be here and raring to go in whatever direction the judges send us

Jess

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-15 08:43:16

SandraMachin

A couple for today. http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/11212482.Organisers_of_Richard_III_talk_expect_sell_out/?ref=rss I'm beginning to wonder how many people led it all. All those chiefs and no Indians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Mercury-opinion-ruling-Richard-III-taking-ages/story-21091211-detail/story.html I'm not being partisan here, just posting it because I too am impatient for it all to be resolved. We ALL are! I can't imagine why it is taking so long. What are those judges doing? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I'm afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Publication Day

2014-05-15 13:50:38

SandraMachin

Publication day appears to have come early for Book 1 of my new series, Cicely's King Richard, because copies I'd ordered from both Amazon and the Book Depository have arrived today. So, if anyone has ordered it, or intends to acquire it, I am happy to send the promised signed, dedicated postcards. I have already sent to those who let me have their addresses before. If you contact me privately and let me know where to send the card, I will do it. That applies for here and abroad. I draw the line at Mars, however. Postage prohibitive! <g> Sandra =^..^=

Re: Publication Day

2014-05-15 15:46:05

Janjovian

I heard from Amazon yesterday to expect delivery in the next couple of days. I am really looking forward to reading your book, Sandra.

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Re: Publication Day

2014-05-15 16:00:50

SandraMachin

I hope it gives you enjoyment, Jess. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 3:45 PM To: Subject: RE: Publication Day

I heard from Amazon yesterday to expect delivery in the next couple of days. I am really looking forward to reading your book, Sandra.

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-17 08:48:13

SandraMachin

Just the one, as Mrs. Wembley might once have said. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Movie-shot-Leicestershire-shown-Cannes-film/story-21103575-detail/story.html Hmm, depends upon the interpretation one puts on the word gull'. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A couple for today. http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/11212482.Organisers_of_Richard_III_talk_expect_sell_out/?ref=rss I'm beginning to wonder how many people led it all. All those chiefs and no Indians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Mercury-opinion-ruling-Richard-III-taking-ages/story-21091211-detail/story.html I'm not being partisan here, just posting it because I too am impatient for it all to be resolved. We ALL are! I can't imagine why it is taking so long. What are those judges doing? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I'm afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-18 09:02:29

SandraMachin

Well, I'm not quite sure about this review in The Independent. It is not balanced. Will Gore has no sympathy for the emotional' Ricardian side of events, describes the Leicester archaeologists as pragmatic' (read sensible and worthy), and almost writes Richard? Richard who? Oh, him. The bloke invented by Shakespeare and those great Tudor guys. After reading this review, I was left with more of an impression of Mr. Gore than the book he was writing about. He criticises the book, praises the book, and in the end sides with archaeology in general. Which, to me, isn't the point. This was no ordinary archaeological dig, no matter what the Leicester team thought. They didn't look beyond the end of their collective nose. Yet they are the heroes, Richard III wasn't worth a t-ss, and his supporters are soppy, maybe even certifiable. Huh? Oh, well. If I were Mike Pitts, the author, I'd be bemused. I'll be buying the book. Good luck to you, Mike. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/book-review-digging-for-richard-iii-by-mike-pitts-9386258.html From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:48 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Just the one, as Mrs. Wembley might once have said. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Movie-shot-Leicestershire-shown-Cannes-film/story-21103575-detail/story.html Hmm, depends upon the interpretation one puts on the word gull'. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A couple for today. http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/11212482.Organisers_of_Richard_III_talk_expect_sell_out/?ref=rss I'm beginning to wonder how many people led it all. All those chiefs and no Indians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Mercury-opinion-ruling-Richard-III-taking-ages/story-21091211-detail/story.html I'm not being partisan here, just posting it because I too am impatient for it all to be resolved. We ALL are! I can't imagine why it is taking so long. What are those judges doing? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I'm afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-18 13:39:02

Jessie Skinner

I do find this review curious. To assume that all Ricardian's are passionate and romantic and are not analytical and reasoned is quite wrong.
Speaking for myself I like to see evidence. We at this point have no evidence that Richard was any more murderous than any other powerful person of his time, but plenty of evidence that he was in no way the monster of Shakespeare's creation.
It was not the society's romanticism which lead to the discovery of his body, but the analytical evidence that our members unearthed.

Jess

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Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

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2014-05-18 13:46:03

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Yes, Jess, and I believe it was the Society's romantic' money that helped things along as well. But that's OK, I suppose. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 1:36 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

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Well, I'm not quite sure about this review in The Independent. It is not balanced. Will Gore has no sympathy for the emotional' Ricardian side of events, describes the Leicester archaeologists as pragmatic' (read sensible and worthy), and almost writes Richard? Richard who? Oh, him. The bloke invented by Shakespeare and those great Tudor guys. After reading this review, I was left with more of an impression of Mr. Gore than the book he was writing about. He criticises the book, praises the book, and in the end sides with archaeology in general. Which, to me, isn't the point. This was no ordinary archaeological dig, no matter what the Leicester team thought. They didn't look beyond the end of their collective nose. Yet they are the heroes, Richard III wasn't worth a t-ss, and his supporters are soppy, maybe even certifiable. Huh? Oh, well. If I were Mike Pitts, the author, I'd be bemused. I'll be buying the book. Good luck to you, Mike. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/book-review-digging-for-richard-iii-by-mike-pitts-9386258.html From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:48 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Just the one, as Mrs. Wembley might once have said. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Movie-shot-Leicestershire-shown-Cannes-film/story-21103575-detail/story.html Hmm, depends upon the interpretation one puts on the word gull'. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A couple for today. http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/11212482.Organisers_of_Richard_III_talk_expect_sell_out/?ref=rss I'm beginning to wonder how many people led it all. All those chiefs and no Indians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Mercury-opinion-ruling-Richard-III-taking-ages/story-21091211-detail/story.html I'm not being partisan here, just posting it because I too am impatient for it all to be resolved. We ALL are! I can't imagine why it is taking so long. What are those judges doing? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I'm afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing but Shakespeare's Richard for a couple of days. Let's ring the changes at Tewkesbury:- http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/crown-for-richard-iii-during-re-burial-ready_929700.html http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-goes-display/story-21052934-detail/story.html two really decent pictures, including one of JA-H holding the crown. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:09 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard You may have seen this before, but it does show Richard's funeral crown in its final form, all the precious stones in place. Can't wait to see it in the flesh' tomorrow. Thank you JA-H! http://www.itv.com/news/central/2014-05-01/richard-iii-funeral-crown-to-be-unveiled-in-tewkesbury/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:56 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Late today I've been on a day out to Minster Lovell and to see the holy well at St Margaret's Church, Binsey, Oxon. The first was seen in the mist, and the latter was very quiet and peaceful. Both were atmospheric. People still leave flowers at the well. Worth a visit. However, here are some links for today. Nothing to set the world on fire, I'm afraid. http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/royalhistory/richard-iiis-funeral-crown-to-go-on-show-29187 nothing new, I think. http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/competitions/leicester-seeks-designer-for-richard-iii-public-realm-strategy/8661912.article if you're interested, you have to register to find out more. Don't all rush. http://www.historyextra.com/feature/history-weekend-2014-preview-5-minutes-with%E2%80%A6-chris-skidmore-mp Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard We're in the doldrums regarding interesting articles about Richard. I'm sure you don't want to read more about petitions for where he is to be buried, how many awards the Leicester team are getting or what's what in the latest productions of the Shakespeare play unless it's something really exciting and different...or just plain weird. So all I have to offer today is:- http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/new-history-trail-richard-iii-7029230 No doubt we'll be inundated with links when the judicial review is finally settled. Soon please! The suspense is awful. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Bemusement has set in. Imagine the Confused Smile Emoticon. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Royal-role-ex-Alton-Towers-boss/story-21011537-detail/story.html Cable ride over the car park, anyone? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A quiet couple of days, and only one this morning. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/books/science-behind-the-story-of-richard-s-remains-1-6577778 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:30 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

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I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

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2014-05-18 15:18:27

Pamela Bain

And the poster boy for all misbehaving royals, well gee that is a stretch. Everyone has an opinion, but I do not agree with his......
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2014-05-18 15:48:41

ricard1an

No mention that if JAH had not done the research to find the exact site of the Greyfriars and the research into the mitDNA, then those archaeologists would still not know where the Greyfriars was. The Ricardians that I know and the people who post on this site are passionate about evidence and support Richard's cause because he has been treated so badly by Tudor propagandists and subsequent idle historians who were not prepared to put in the work required to find out the truth. We are Ricardians because we want justice for Richard and what about justice for Philippa? She spent many years getting to the point of the dig, how dare they criticize.
Mary

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2014-05-18 17:28:09

Janjovian

I suppose in some ways it is academic jealousy, but it is grossly unfair.

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2014-05-18 17:36:39

SandraMachin

They certainly know a bandwagon when they dig it up. Well afterwards, not during. Certainly not before. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 5:28 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

I suppose in some ways it is academic jealousy, but it is grossly unfair.

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2014-05-18 17:47:44

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Oh gawd....theyre not trotting that old chestnut are they..again....surely it is quite mouldy by now...Eileen

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2014-05-18 18:10:46

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I agree that this book is bandwagoning. Anyone following Mike Pitts' blog in recent months will have gained a flavour of how he feels about Ricardians, Richard himself, Philippa Langley, the notion of burying Richard anywhere but Leicester, and the overwhelming pre-eminence of the archaeologists and their role: this, regardless of the fact that they weren't looking for Richard, only Philippa and the LFR were doing that; they weren't concerned to exhume the legbone and it took PL's last monies and determination to insist that they did exhume; even then the archaeologists were all focused on Trench 3 and thought Trench 1 was part of the nave. How wrong they were, and how right JAH was..... and then they put a mattock through Richard's skull.....

I see this newspaper review as a reflection of what emerges from the book itself, not the reporter's own take on Richard and Ricardians.

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2014-05-18 18:37:26

SandraMachin

I know nothing about Mike Pitts, colyngbourne, and was only going by the review. The whole business of the way the dig was conducted, how careers were pushed, limelight stolen and so on, when all the time they had been incompetent and clumsy, indifferent even, to the task they had undertaken to do. They seemed to think they were superior beings, above associating with fanatical' folk who happened to like Richard III. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they demurred to the last about seeking Richard's remains? Well, there was dosh attached, of course. Or perhaps they had their fingers crossed behind their backs when they accepted the project. Whatever, their conduct at the time was atrocious and they have now brushed as much of that as they can under the carpet. Including the mattock. And, I guess, the accompanying snigger. That carpet must resemble a relief map of the Himalayas.

There, I feel a lot better for holding back so magnificently!

Sandra
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I agree that this book is bandwagoning. Anyone following Mike Pitts' blog in recent months will have gained a flavour of how he feels about Ricardians, Richard himself, Philippa Langley, the notion of burying Richard anywhere but Leicester, and the overwhelming pre-eminence of the archaeologists and their role: this, regardless of the fact that they weren't looking for Richard, only Philippa and the LFR were doing that; they weren't concerned to exhume the legbone and it took PL's last monies and determination to insist that they did exhume; even then the archaeologists were all focused on Trench 3 and thought Trench 1 was part of the nave. How wrong they were, and how right JAH was..... and then they put a mattock through Richard's skull.....

I see this newspaper review as a reflection of what emerges from the book itself, not the reporter's own take on Richard and Ricardians.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-19 11:04:21

Paul Trevor Bale

Yes, one need only to talk to Annette Carson who began researching for her Maligned King book far from being biased in Richard's favour, but with exhaustive research, particularly of original sources, then clear headed, human, analysis, came down squarely in Richard's camp.
No warm and balmy romanticism there. Just facts and intelligent analysis.
Paul

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Well, I’m not quite sure about this review in The Independent. It is not balanced. Will Gore has no sympathy for the ‘emotional’ Ricardian side of events, describes the Leicester archaeologists as ‘pragmatic’ (read sensible and worthy), and almost writes “Richard? Richard who? Oh, him. The bloke invented by Shakespeare and those great Tudor guys.” After reading this review, I was left with more of an impression of Mr. Gore than the book he was writing about. He criticises the book, praises the book, and in the end sides with archaeology in general. Which, to me, isn’t the point. This was no ordinary archaeological dig, no matter what the Leicester team thought. They didn’t look beyond the end of their collective nose. Yet they are the heroes, Richard III wasn’t worth a t-ss, and his supporters are soppy, maybe even certifiable. Huh? Oh, well. If I were Mike Pitts, the author, I’d be bemused. I’ll be buying the book. Good luck to you, Mike. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/book-review-digging-for-richard-iii-by-mike-pitts-9386258.html From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:48 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Just the one, as Mrs. Wembley might once have said. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Movie-shot-Leicestershire-shown-Cannes-film/story-21103575-detail/story.html – Hmm, depends upon the interpretation one puts on the word ‘gull’. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A couple for today. http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/11212482.Organisers_of_Richard_III_talk_expect_sell_out/?ref=rss – I’m beginning to wonder how many people led it all. All those chiefs and no Indians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Mercury-opinion-ruling-Richard-III-taking-ages/story-21091211-detail/story.html – I’m not being partisan here, just posting it because I too am impatient for it all to be resolved. We ALL are! I can’t imagine why it is taking so long. What are those judges doing? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I’m afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I’ll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html – more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm – for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 – Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn’t in with the main thread/list, so I’m posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ – um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ – I’m not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard

Nothing but Shakespeare’s Richard for a couple of days. Let’s ring the changes at Tewkesbury:- http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/crown-for-richard-iii-during-re-burial-ready_929700.html http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-goes-display/story-21052934-detail/story.html – two really decent pictures, including one of JA-H holding the crown. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:09 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard You may have seen this before, but it does show Richard’s funeral crown in its final form, all the precious stones in place. Can’t wait to see it ‘in the flesh’ tomorrow. Thank you JA-H! http://www.itv.com/news/central/2014-05-01/richard-iii-funeral-crown-to-be-unveiled-in-tewkesbury/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:56 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard Late today – I’ve been on a day out to Minster Lovell and to see the holy well at St Margaret’s Church, Binsey, Oxon. The first was seen in the mist, and the latter was very quiet and peaceful. Both were atmospheric. People still leave flowers at the well. Worth a visit. However, here are some links for today. Nothing to set the world on fire, I’m afraid. http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/royalhistory/richard-iiis-funeral-crown-to-go-on-show-29187 – nothing new, I think. http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/competitions/leicester-seeks-designer-for-richard-iii-public-realm-strategy/8661912.article – if you’re interested, you have to register to find out more. Don’t all rush. http://www.historyextra.com/feature/history-weekend-2014-preview-5-minutes-with%E2%80%A6-chris-skidmore-mp Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Press articles about Richard We’re in the doldrums regarding interesting articles about Richard. I’m sure you don’t want to read more about petitions for where he is to be buried, how many awards the Leicester team are getting or what’s what in the latest productions of the Shakespeare play – unless it’s something really exciting and different...or just plain weird. So all I have to offer today is:- http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/new-history-trail-richard-iii-7029230 No do

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-19 13:26:38

colyngbourne

The "dosh" comes via secured university departmental funding, I would imagine; including greater security of tenure, and possible access to research grants because of the prestige of involvement in the dig.

I have great appreciation for the fact that the archaeology was done well, once the remains were finally uncovered, and lots of skilled work went into the post-dig evaluation and further investigation into the remains and their identification. The awards won for this are well deserved. But it is still far from the mark to state in posters (on display around Leicester) and on T-shirts - "we found the King".

2014-05-19 18:15:41

2014-05-21 09:04:49

SandraMachin

He's off for a wash and brush up in Lincolnshire! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-statue-removed-Castle-Gardens/story-21115528-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three today. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-statue/story-21112005-detail/story.html maybe he likes it where he is? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-27467100 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/City-mayor-Sir-Peter-Soulsby-defends-Leicester/story-21111658-detail/story.html madcap? Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:02 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-22 10:07:01

SandraMachin

The news about the final decision coming on Friday is now well-known. Here's what will be happening in Leicester. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/05/21/richard-iii-announcement/ And there's this, which is interesting. http://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/news/2014/may/95-russ-harris---richard-iii.html#.U32992dOWP8 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:04 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard He's off for a wash and brush up in Lincolnshire! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-statue-removed-Castle-Gardens/story-21115528-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three today. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-statue/story-21112005-detail/story.html maybe he likes it where he is? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-27467100 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/City-mayor-Sir-Peter-Soulsby-defends-Leicester/story-21111658-detail/story.html madcap? Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:02 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-22 11:46:35

Pamela Bain

Very interesting information. It will be interesting to hear the final decision.
On May 22, 2014, at 4:07 AM, "'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... []" <> wrote:

Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-22 11:56:25

SandraMachin

Yes, Pamela. I'm almost too numb to mind where he lies, just that he does, and with the full pomp, ceremony and respect his rank commands. To be honest, there are still times when I find it hard to believe he has actually been found at all. It seems like a dream. But he has, and I'm so overwhelmed. All the argy-bargy has spoiled it in a way, but not ultimately. Because ultimately, we have him again and we never, EVER, in our wildest dreams, believed it could happen. When I think back to my days of reading Daughter of Time.... Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:46 AM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Very interesting information. It will be interesting to hear the final decision.
On May 22, 2014, at 4:07 AM, "'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... []" <> wrote:

The news about the final decision coming on Friday is now well-known. Here's what will be happening in Leicester. http://mikepitts.wordpress.com/2014/05/21/richard-iii-announcement/ And there's this, which is interesting. http://www.lboro.ac.uk/news-events/news/2014/may/95-russ-harris---richard-iii.html#.U32992dOWP8 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:04 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard He's off for a wash and brush up in Lincolnshire! http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-statue-removed-Castle-Gardens/story-21115528-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Three today. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III-statue/story-21112005-detail/story.html maybe he likes it where he is? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-27467100 http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/City-mayor-Sir-Peter-Soulsby-defends-Leicester/story-21111658-detail/story.html madcap? Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:02 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Well, I'm not quite sure about this review in The Independent. It is not balanced. Will Gore has no sympathy for the emotional' Ricardian side of events, describes the Leicester archaeologists as pragmatic' (read sensible and worthy), and almost writes Richard? Richard who? Oh, him. The bloke invented by Shakespeare and those great Tudor guys. After reading this review, I was left with more of an impression of Mr. Gore than the book he was writing about. He criticises the book, praises the book, and in the end sides with archaeology in general. Which, to me, isn't the point. This was no ordinary archaeological dig, no matter what the Leicester team thought. They didn't look beyond the end of their collective nose. Yet they are the heroes, Richard III wasn't worth a t-ss, and his supporters are soppy, maybe even certifiable. Huh? Oh, well. If I were Mike Pitts, the author, I'd be bemused. I'll be buying the book. Good luck to you, Mike. http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/reviews/book-review-digging-for-richard-iii-by-mike-pitts-9386258.html From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2014 8:48 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Just the one, as Mrs. Wembley might once have said. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Movie-shot-Leicestershire-shown-Cannes-film/story-21103575-detail/story.html Hmm, depends upon the interpretation one puts on the word gull'. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:43 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A couple for today. http://www.bucksfreepress.co.uk/news/localnews/marlow/11212482.Organisers_of_Richard_III_talk_expect_sell_out/?ref=rss I'm beginning to wonder how many people led it all. All those chiefs and no Indians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Mercury-opinion-ruling-Richard-III-taking-ages/story-21091211-detail/story.html I'm not being partisan here, just posting it because I too am impatient for it all to be resolved. We ALL are! I can't imagine why it is taking so long. What are those judges doing? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Links have been thin on the ground recently, except for items about the Shakespeare Richard, of which there seem to be countless new productions. Anyway, the link I have today is for those who might be able to attend. http://lincsheritageforum.wordpress.com/2014/05/12/the-pathology-of-richard-iii/ Wrong neck of the woods for me, I'm afraid. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 8:11 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one to offer. All the rest were to do with the Martin Freeman Richard III. http://www.blackmorevale.co.uk/Richard-III-artist-bows-heraldry-Templeton-Prize/story-21067480-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:20 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Not much to post today, and some of it repeats from yesterday, but I'll post them anyway. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Richard-III/story-21067872-detail/story.html more about the tussle in the House of Commons. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Hundreds-Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-Tewkesbury/story-21066652-detail/story.html http://www.londontheatre.co.uk/londontheatre/news/ltg14/richardiiifurthercasting.htm for those interested in who plays what in the Martin Freeman Richard III. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A few today. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/main-topics/general-news/author-gervase-phinn-joins-richard-iii-campaign-1-6598631 Tamara posted this yesterday, but it wasn't in with the main thread/list, so I'm posting it again. http://www.itv.com/news/calendar/update/2014-05-06/mps-row-over-richard-iii-burial/ http://kingrichardarmitage.rgcwp.com/2014/05/06/theatre-history-richard-iii/ um, different. http://www.scnsrc.me/kings-skeleton-richard-iii-revealed-720p-hdtv-x264-dhd/ I'm not quite sure what this is. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 8:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing but Shakespeare's Richard for a couple of days. Let's ring the changes at Tewkesbury:- http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/crown-for-richard-iii-during-re-burial-ready_929700.html http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Richard-III-s-funeral-crown-goes-display/story-21052934-detail/story.html two really decent pictures, including one of JA-H holding the crown. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 8:09 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard You may have seen this before, but it does show Richard's funeral crown in its final form, all the precious stones in place. Can't wait to see it in the flesh' tomorrow. Thank you JA-H! http://www.itv.com/news/central/2014-05-01/richard-iii-funeral-crown-to-be-unveiled-in-tewkesbury/ Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:56 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Late today I've been on a day out to Minster Lovell and to see the holy well at St Margaret's Church, Binsey, Oxon. The first was seen in the mist, and the latter was very quiet and peaceful. Both were atmospheric. People still leave flowers at the well. Worth a visit. However, here are some links for today. Nothing to set the world on fire, I'm afraid. http://www.royalcentral.co.uk/royalhistory/richard-iiis-funeral-crown-to-go-on-show-29187 nothing new, I think. http://www.architectsjournal.co.uk/competitions/leicester-seeks-designer-for-richard-iii-public-realm-strategy/8661912.article if you're interested, you have to register to find out more. Don't all rush. http://www.historyextra.com/feature/history-weekend-2014-preview-5-minutes-with%E2%80%A6-chris-skidmore-mp Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:17 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard We're in the doldrums regarding interesting articles about Richard. I'm sure you don't want to read more about petitions for where he is to be buried, how many awards the Leicester team are getting or what's what in the latest productions of the Shakespeare play unless it's something really exciting and different...or just plain weird. So all I have to offer today is:- http://www.hinckleytimes.net/news/local-news/new-history-trail-richard-iii-7029230 No doubt we'll be inundated with links when the judicial review is finally settled. Soon please! The suspense is awful. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:24 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Bemusement has set in. Imagine the Confused Smile Emoticon. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Royal-role-ex-Alton-Towers-boss/story-21011537-detail/story.html Cable ride over the car park, anyone? Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 8:06 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A quiet couple of days, and only one this morning. http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorkshire-living/arts/books/science-behind-the-story-of-richard-s-remains-1-6577778 Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:30 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only this today for its horrible fascination' factor. http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2014/04/performance_network_presents_a_1.html Heaven help us. And Richard. Another of my opinions, of course, because there may be many who think it's brilliant. Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:15 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Only one today. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/10777503/Chris-Grayling-We-must-stop-the-legal-aid-abusers-tarnishing-Britains-justice-system.html Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 8:55 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard A gloomy, cold Sunday morning here in Gloucester hope the rest of you are faring better. Again, not much of excitement to offer today, only two which may not be worth posting anyway, but here they are. http://www.gloucestershireecho.co.uk/Archaeologist-remains-Richard-III-speak-Cotswolds/story-20983712-detail/story.html Resounding omission of the Society, Philippa or JA-H. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Dig-expert-present-race-trophy/story-20982850-detail/story.html My word, he is busy. He'll be on Celebrity Big Brother next! and a review of Jude Morgan's The Secret Life of William Shakespeare:- http://www.concordmonitor.com/home/11606935-95/the-secret-life-of-william-shakespeare-brilliant-when-in-stratford Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 8:10 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good morning. Nothing hugely exciting, I fear, but enough to occupy a sip or two of morning tea/coffee. http://www.cotswoldjournal.co.uk/news/local/11156118.Richard_III_controversy_coming_to_Stow/ No names for the argumentative historians. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/undefined-headline/story-20978234-detail/story.html Ummmmm.... Sandra =^..^= From: SandraMachin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 8:07 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Nothing yesterday, and one strange' little item for this morning. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html Everything else was old ground, so to speak. Sandra =^..^= From: Jonathan Evans Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:35 AM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Good refutation of the recent Hicks / Biddle nonsense here:

http://www.historyextra.com/news/leicester-skeleton-richard-iii%E2%80%99s-leading-archaeologist-insists

And something more bizarre:

http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Did-ghost-hunters-raise-Richard-III/story-20963422-detail/story.html

Knowing the area, I was amused by the comment from "Plockton" at the end of the page (although Donington le Heath itself is rather nice).

Jonathan

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I have A Cautionary Tale downloaded on my IPad Kindle...it's a little gem and I can recommend it....Eileen

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-22 12:52:50

Janjovian

I'm with you there Sandra. I just hope they come up with a definite answer and not further public consultation.
That would be too much to bear.

Jess
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Press articles about Richard

2014-05-26 16:44:53

Douglas Eugene Stamate

Hilary wrote: //snip// "HT got more and more itchy about all this (sorry not from the poison) and withdrew into his own room with his own guard - was that the forming of the Beefeaters? So he no longer had an open Privy Chamber where you could go and meet him. To get at him was like going through security at an airport." //snip// Doug here: Sounds rather like Ivan Groznij (the "Terrible"), another famous figure who was declared a paranoid by "historians" for acting much as HT did. I understand, however, that there's new evidence that suggests Ivan *was* poisoned - so *his* attempts a self-protection may not have been as successful as HT's! Doug

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-28 07:32:58

Durose David

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-28 09:14:04

SandraMachin

Agreed about James Maxwell, David. He struck just the right note. Almost eerily so, because he was physically right as well. I also thought James Laurenson was excellent as the Earl of Lincoln, although I think the real Lincoln was a much more subtle kettle of fish. (If a kettle of fish can be subtle.) Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:11 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

Hi, the attempted poisoning is dramatised in episode 7 of the Shadow of the Tower. This is a wonderful attempt in the 1970s to make a series of the reign of Henry VII. It seems very stagy now, but American James maxwell makes an excellent HT.
The episodes are separately visible on YouTube but 7 is probably the weakest. However, the poisoner is played by the late John Junkin, who used to work with Morecambe and Wise, so it was bound to be rather like Carry on Poisoning.

Regards
David

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Hilary wrote: //snip// "HT got more and more itchy about all this (sorry not from the poison) and withdrew into his own room with his own guard - was that the forming of the Beefeaters? So he no longer had an open Privy Chamber where you could go and meet him. To get at him was like going through security at an airport." //snip// Doug here: Sounds rather like Ivan Groznij (the "Terrible"), another famous figure who was declared a paranoid by "historians" for acting much as HT did. I understand, however, that there's new evidence that suggests Ivan *was* poisoned - so *his* attempts a self-protection may not have been as successful as HT's! Doug

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2014-05-28 10:23:22

Hilary Jones

Hi Johnanne, re the above, sorry to be so long getting back - the book is very, very dense and has no index. The attempted poisoning was organised by John Kendal of the Hospitallers and was going to be delivered by a Spaniard John Disant (was this John Junkin, I remember him well!). They seem to have got away with it because they got cold fee at the last moment and didn't do it, but one Gerard Danet was bound over for £500 not to go within a thousand paces of the king. He later rescued him at Blackheath and was rewarded - how sad for us all! The book (The Perkin Warbeck Conspiracy) is packed with the names of dissenters, many of them the same who had flocked to HT in Brittany. It does to me raise a very big question. If all this international wheeling and dealing was going on in HT's reign, then the same must surely have been going on since 1461 when Louis XI saw a new young warrior king take the English throne. It does indeed make one wonder how many of the key events (the fall of Clarence, the revelation of Eleanor B, the fall of Hastings and even Buckingham) were manipulated by the French, who were so very clever at playing chess with disaffected Englishmen (and Welshmen amd Irishmen and Scotsmen). A lot of work to be done there methinks; would that someone like Arthurson with his knowledge of international affairs would turn their attention to this. H

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014, 7:33, "Durose David daviddurose2000@... []" <> wrote:

Hi, the attempted poisoning is dramatised in episode 7 of the Shadow of the Tower. This is a wonderful attempt in the 1970s to make a series of the reign of Henry VII. It seems very stagy now, but American James maxwell makes an excellent HT.
The episodes are separately visible on YouTube but 7 is probably the weakest. However, the poisoner is played by the late John Junkin, who used to work with Morecambe and Wise, so it was bound to be rather like Carry on Poisoning.

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David

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Hilary wrote: //snip// "HT got more and more itchy about all this (sorry not from the poison) and withdrew into his own room with his own guard - was that the forming of the Beefeaters? So he no longer had an open Privy Chamber where you could go and meet him. To get at him was like going through security at an airport." //snip// Doug here: Sounds rather like Ivan Groznij (the "Terrible"), another famous figure who was declared a paranoid by "historians" for acting much as HT did. I understand, however, that there's new evidence that suggests Ivan *was* poisoned - so *his* attempts a self-protection may not have been as successful as HT's! Doug

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-28 11:19:33

Gilda Felt

I thought the series very well done, especially for the time. And, yes, James Maxwell was superb.
Gilda

On May 27, 2014, at 3:11 PM, Durose David daviddurose2000@... [] wrote:

Hi, the attempted poisoning is dramatised in episode 7 of the Shadow of the Tower. This is a wonderful attempt in the 1970s to make a series of the reign of Henry VII. It seems very stagy now, but American James maxwell makes an excellent HT.
The episodes are separately visible on YouTube but 7 is probably the weakest. However, the poisoner is played by the late John Junkin, who used to work with Morecambe and Wise, so it was bound to be rather like Carry on Poisoning.

Regards
David

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Hilary wrote://snip//"HT got more and more itchy about all this (sorry not from the poison) and withdrew into his own room with his own guard - was that the forming of the Beefeaters? So he no longer had an open Privy Chamber where you could go and meet him. To get at him was like going through security at an airport."//snip// Doug here:Sounds rather like Ivan Groznij (the "Terrible"), another famous figure who was declared a paranoid by "historians" for acting much as HT did. I understand, however, that there's new evidence that suggests Ivan *was* poisoned - so *his* attempts a self-protection may not have been as successful as HT's!Doug

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-05-28 11:20:23

Hilary Jones

I agree too. He died quite young, didn't he - very sad? He was exactly how I'd imagine Henry. And I agree about James Laurenson, Lincoln will always be like him in my head. I have The Shadow in my cupboard somewhere - shall have to review it and look out for John Junkin. H

On Wednesday, 28 May 2014, 9:22, "'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... []" <> wrote:

Agreed about James Maxwell, David. He struck just the right note. Almost eerily so, because he was physically right as well. I also thought James Laurenson was excellent as the Earl of Lincoln, although I think the real Lincoln was a much more subtle kettle of fish. (If a kettle of fish can be subtle.) Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:11 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard Hi, the attempted poisoning is dramatised in episode 7 of the Shadow of the Tower. This is a wonderful attempt in the 1970s to make a series of the reign of Henry VII. It seems very stagy now, but American James maxwell makes an excellent HT.
The episodes are separately visible on YouTube but 7 is probably the weakest. However, the poisoner is played by the late John Junkin, who used to work with Morecambe and Wise, so it was bound to be rather like Carry on Poisoning.

Regards
David

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Hilary wrote: //snip// "HT got more and more itchy about all this (sorry not from the poison) and withdrew into his own room with his own guard - was that the forming of the Beefeaters? So he no longer had an open Privy Chamber where you could go and meet him. To get at him was like going through security at an airport." //snip// Doug here: Sounds rather like Ivan Groznij (the "Terrible"), another famous figure who was declared a paranoid by "historians" for acting much as HT did. I understand, however, that there's new evidence that suggests Ivan *was* poisoned - so *his* attempts a self-protection may not have been as successful as HT's! Doug

Publication Day

2014-05-30 15:01:39

SandraMachin

Please wish me luck, everyone. Today is UK publication day for Cicely's King Richard. http://tinyurl.com/pnm27gj Sandra =^..^=

Re: Publication Day

2014-05-30 15:03:53

b.eileen25

Lots and lots of luck...fingers crossed...toes too...:0)

Re: Publication Day

2014-05-30 15:04:51

Pamela Bain

GREAT LUCK!

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Please wish me luck, everyone. Today is UK publication day for Cicely's King Richard. http://tinyurl.com/pnm27gj

Sandra

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Re: Publication Day

2014-05-30 15:08:41

SandraMachin

Thank you, Pamela! From: mailto: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 3:04 PM To: Subject: RE: Publication Day

GREAT LUCK!

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Oh, I'm hoping, Nico, I'm hoping. Thank you.

Sandra

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Good luck with your book, Sandra - and the sequels.

Nico

On Friday, 30 May 2014, 17:44, "'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... []" <> wrote:

I'm glad it arrived, Vickie. I hope the book is what you want it to be.

Sandra

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Good Luck! I'm looking forward to reading it. BTW I received my card. Thank you!

Vickie

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Thank you all good wishes are being gratefully received.

Sandra

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Lots of the very best of luck with the book, Sandra.

Jess

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Then please don't stand up too quickly, Eileen! I'll feel so guilty. <g>

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Lots and lots of luck...fingers crossed...toes too...:0)

Re: Publication Day

2014-05-31 14:48:08

Gilda Felt

Good luck, Sandra! I'm really looking forward to reading it.
Gilda

On May 30, 2014, at 10:01 AM, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:

Please wish me luck, everyone. Today is UK publication day for Cicely's King Richard. http://tinyurl.com/pnm27gj Sandra=^..^=

2014-06-01 18:50:40

Janjovian

One does so enjoy blaming The Daily Mail!=

Jess From: Jonathan Evans jmcevans98@... []
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Absolutely agree. How many of us have never made mistakes in our working lives, still less with the all the pressure of television cameras watching over us for a sustained period to catch every unguarded or ill-chosen word?

Jonathan

P.S. Re the scan of the body as it was positioned in the grave, I think people need to blame 'The Daily Mail' rather than the University of Leicester. Still, I'm sure no one here would ever read that paper from choice.

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Isn't it time to forgive Dr Appleby? She has ultimately done a good job on the skeleton, and declared to the world that Richard wasn't a "hunchback."
Perhaps now is the time to get her "onside."
She could be useful to the society.

Jess

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She'll be haunted ever more. Every time that film is shown, there she is, with the big gaffe and even bigger mattock. From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 1:46 PM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Agreed, her ham handed use of the mattock, plus her stupid quips show immaturity, and a very flawed technique. I hope she was disciplined as well as cautioned to be more careful in her abilities and her comments.
On Jun 1, 2014, at 4:37 AM, "maryfriend@... []" <> wrote:

I thought that Jo Appleby was trying to redeem herself too. She probably realizes that she would have had many more requests to speak to Ricardian groups if she had thought before she commented in the film. However,I think it is probably too little too late.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-06-01 18:58:45

Janjovian

I do try hard to be forgiving!
We are off to visit Bosworth Battlefield site at the end of the week. We are staying in Sutton Cheyney, so we can visit the church, our first Richard related visit.
We are really looking forward to it and are hoping for good weather.

Jess From: Pamela Bain pbain@... []
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Jess, you are very forgiving, and you have swayed me. I just cannot get that picture out of mind mind, and those words echoing in my ears!
On Jun 1, 2014, at 8:37 AM, "Jessie Skinner janjovian@... []" <> wrote:

I agree with you, but in her case, unlike your date for the battle of Waterloo, there is no way she can change what happened. It will probably hang over her career, but she is doing very good work now, and the points made in all the newspapers this week as a result of her work are very helpful to the society.
So I say if she does a lecture near any of us, we should try to go, and be prepared to be forgiving.

Jess

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Oh, I agree, Jess. I was just saying that the gaffes Jo made at that dig will haunt her. Even if nothing more is said, she knows what she did, and she'll wish it all undone. I know I would. Heck, I once moved the Battle of Waterloo to the wrong month, and it still hangs over me like a big black cloud! Even though I was able to rectify the inexplicable error (I still don't know how I managed it) in reissues, I am aware there are copies out there with my great blooper on show. Someone, somewhere will find it and point it out on Facebook, or somewhere else that might as well have a loudspeaker. And no, I'm not saying which book it was! <g> Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:07 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jess

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She'll be haunted ever more. Every time that film is shown, there she is, with the big gaffe and even bigger mattock. From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 1:46 PM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard Agreed, her ham handed use of the mattock, plus her stupid quips show immaturity, and a very flawed technique. I hope she was disciplined as well as cautioned to be more careful in her abilities and her comments.
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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-06-01 19:07:45

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Do have a great time, Jess. I'll do the opposite of a rain dance for you. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 6:58 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

I do try hard to be forgiving!
We are off to visit Bosworth Battlefield site at the end of the week. We are staying in Sutton Cheyney, so we can visit the church, our first Richard related visit.
We are really looking forward to it and are hoping for good weather.

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Oh, I agree, Jess. I was just saying that the gaffes Jo made at that dig will haunt her. Even if nothing more is said, she knows what she did, and she'll wish it all undone. I know I would. Heck, I once moved the Battle of Waterloo to the wrong month, and it still hangs over me like a big black cloud! Even though I was able to rectify the inexplicable error (I still don't know how I managed it) in reissues, I am aware there are copies out there with my great blooper on show. Someone, somewhere will find it and point it out on Facebook, or somewhere else that might as well have a loudspeaker. And no, I'm not saying which book it was! <g> Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 2:07 PM To: Subject: Re: Press articles about Richard

Jess

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Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-06-02 16:21:37

Janjovian

I'm not sure that anyone could ever equal Richard Burton, Mary.
It was good though, and lovely to see Bryn Terfel singing Eli Jenkins Prayer at the end.
Sorry to be off topic.

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It was very well done and they all did very well considering that some of them were singers and not actors. The only thing I would say is that no one was as good as Richard Burton as the narrator.
Mary

Re: Publication Day

2014-06-03 11:30:07

Gilda Felt

Thanks, Sandra! I'll let you know when it arrives.
Gilda

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Hi Gilda. The book will be mailed tomorrow. I hope it gives pleasure. Sandra=^..^= From: mailto:Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 4:03 PMTo: mailto:Subject: Re: Publication Day

Hi Sandra,

I'd love a copy of your book for the Society's library! Just send it to the address below and I'll be forever grateful. :-) Gilda Gilda Felt3054 Lantana Ct. SEKentwood, Michigan 49512 On May 31, 2014, at 9:58 AM, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:

I'll be eager to hear your opinion, Gilda. BTW, I want to donate a copy to the Society library. Can you tell me who/where to send it? I'll send a copy of each title as it comes out. Sandra=^..^= From: mailto:Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:48 PMTo: Subject: Re: Publication Day

Good luck, Sandra! I'm really looking forward to reading it.

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-06-09 21:07:28

Jessie Skinner

We are back from our long weekend in Sutton Cheney, and our visit to Bosworth Field.
It was wonderful.
We started our pilgrimage with a visit to Sutton Cheney church which was very moving. The tributes from the society worldwide were extraordinary, as were the embroidered kneelers with their Ricardian texts.
We were going to the Battlefield the next day, but we had torrential rain in the morning, so we went to the Battlefield Heritage Railway instead. This line goes right across the battlefield site, so we travelled up and down a couple of times until the sun came out.
On Sunday we finally got to the Bosworth Visitor Centre which was most impressive. The displays are excellent and they are totally in touch with all the latest research evidence.
We then went on a mile and a half guided walk around the site.
We started at the top of Ambion Hill, which is where the heritage centre is, and where they fly Richard's White Boar flag. Our guide was really good, he made it fun, with flags, arrows, swords etc but was was extremely knowledgeable and enthusiastic. He tried, I think to be unbiased, but he wore a white boar badge, and I would have said was probably pro Ricardian.
We saw from a little distance what is now considered the most likely spot for Richard's death.
I now understand the whole battle much more than I did before.
I would reccommend a visit to this lovely part of the world, with its brilliant Ricardian heritage to anyone.

Jess
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Do have a great time, Jess. I'll do the opposite of a rain dance for you. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2014 6:58 PM To: Subject: RE: Press articles about Richard

I do try hard to be forgiving!
We are off to visit Bosworth Battlefield site at the end of the week. We are staying in Sutton Cheyney, so we can visit the church, our first Richard related visit.
We are really looking forward to it and are hoping for good weather.

Jess From: mailto:
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Jess

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Press articles about Richard

2014-06-14 08:49:42

SandraMachin

I've given up trying to keep this thread going in one piece because there are now such long gaps between possible links. Everything seems to cover the same thing...or is about Kevin Spacey! I think I've gathered by now that he is playing Richard. Overkill already. Anyway, there is one thing of possible interest this morning, and this is it. http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/fit-kingSneak-preview-reveals-Richard-III-visitor/story-21230604-detail/story.html Sandra =^..^=

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-06-14 13:14:00

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Hi Sandra,
I find it somewhat amusing how the artist Brad Cooke is positively carried away by his importance for
generations to come. I hope he has as much enthusiasm for his work and especially a good and valid
representation of whatever it is that will represent Richard on the glass window.
Eva

Re: Press articles about Richard

2014-06-14 14:22:12

Pamela Bain

Kevin Spacey as Richard, no please. I like him but he is far too old for the part. Thanks for the preview, and I love the news abut having a web site. I am reading your book, now......as usual, very good!
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