Leicester economy?
Leicester economy?
Re: Leicester economy?
Jonathan
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
From: 'Sharon Feely' 43118@... [] <>;
To: <>;
Subject: Leicester economy?
Sent: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 10:06:50 PM
I don't wish to start the Leicester/York debate again (living in Scarborough it's obvious who I favour!) but I think this article clearly sums up everything that needs to be said about Leicester. Be interesting (or not) to see what the centre has planned in 3-5 years time when they 'refresh the exhibits'. No respect, it's all about the money. Disgraceful. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-28946434 Sharon
Re: Leicester economy?
Also, there are points about the displays that some members here would like to see changed or given more emphasis. 're-organising the displays would be the perfect time to do this.
Leicester is quite a poor city.
Why is it bad for them to improve their city centre, show off their cultural roots, and improve the lot of their citizens?
Jess
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
From: Jonathan Evans jmcevans98@... [] <>;
To: <>;
Subject: RE: Leicester economy?
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 8:14:41 AM
What on earth is disgraceful about it? It's a factual article. Do you really, honestly believe that any civic authority would not make similar calculations? In fact, not to do so would be an abject failure of duty.
Jonathan
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
From: 'Sharon Feely' 43118@... [] <>;
To: <>;
Subject: Leicester economy?
Sent: Thu, Aug 28, 2014 10:06:50 PM
I don't wish to start the Leicester/York debate again (living in Scarborough it's obvious who I favour!) but I think this article clearly sums up everything that needs to be said about Leicester. Be interesting (or not) to see what the centre has planned in 3-5 years time when they 'refresh the exhibits'. No respect, it's all about the money. Disgraceful. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-28946434 Sharon
Re: Leicester economy?
Sent from Samsung Mobile
-------- Original message --------
From: "Jessie Skinner janjovian@... []" <>
Date: 29/08/2014 09:31 (GMT+00:00)
To:
Subject: Re: RE: Leicester economy?
Also, there are points about the displays that some members here would like to see changed or given more emphasis. 're-organising the displays would be the perfect time to do this.
Leicester is quite a poor city.
Why is it bad for them to improve their city centre, show off their cultural roots, and improve the lot of their citizens?
Jess
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
From: Jonathan Evans jmcevans98@... [] <>;
To: <>;
Subject: RE: Leicester economy?
Sent: Fri, Aug 29, 2014 8:14:41 AM
What on earth is disgraceful about it? It's a factual article. Do you really, honestly believe that any civic authority would not make similar calculations? In fact, not to do so would be an abject failure of duty.
Jonathan
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPad
From:
'Sharon Feely' 43118@... [] <>;
To:
<>;
Subject:
Leicester economy?
Sent:
Thu, Aug 28, 2014 10:06:50 PM
I don't wish to start the Leicester/York debate again (living in Scarborough it's obvious who I favour!) but I think this article clearly sums up everything that needs to be said about Leicester. Be interesting (or not) to see what the centre has planned in 3-5 years time when they 'refresh the exhibits'. No respect, it's all about the money. Disgraceful. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-28946434 Sharon
Re: Leicester economy?
Re: Leicester economy?
Secondly, the Centre...and that is what it is...Secondary. It's never going to be to everybody's liking because it is a visitors centre..and invariably there is always a kind if tackiness about these places...something probably more for tourists than Ricardians.but to me it's not that important...and I doubt if I shall visit anyway. But it is what it is and we do need to accept and move on. I note that some said ion that they would never visit Richard's tomb because it was in Leicester...that is up to them but nothing on God's earth will keep me away.
To sum up I think we should be very, very well grateful he was found and that is the most important thing ....Eileen
Re: Leicester economy?
Re: Leicester economy?
For what is worth my thoughts on this are that there are two different issues here. The first and most important one, well to me, is that Richard is now laid to rest once more with loving hands tending him. He's been through enough tests now and enough is enough. Moreover Leicester Cathedral now seems to have grasped what the bulk of people wanted..a proper tomb...not a slab...and they appear to be making a lot of changes to the cathedral to make it more in keeping for the burial of a king. Of course not everyone is going to like the tomb design and disappointed at the outcome but, come on, at long last somewhere to go and pay our respects and lay a rose. We should be rejoicing now the long wait is nearly over. Let us all move on and accept that Leicester Cathedral won...move on and rejoice. How wonderful to be able to visit and be near where he will rest. Secondly, the Centre...and that is what it is...Secondary. It's never going to be to everybody's liking because it is a visitors centre..and invariably there is always a kind if tackiness about these places...something probably more for tourists than Ricardians.but to me it's not that important...and I doubt if I shall visit anyway. But it is what it is and we do need to accept and move on. I note that some said ion that they would never visit Richard's tomb because it was in Leicester...that is up to them but nothing on God's earth will keep me away. To sum up I think we should be very, very well grateful he was found and that is the most important thing ....Eileen
Re: Leicester economy?
Beautifully said, Eileen, and I've got to admit you are more . . . forgiving . . . understanding . . . about the Centre than I am. For the rest well you're spot on about the wonder of Richard's remains having been found and that he will receive a reburial worthy of a king. It will be wonderful to be able to visit and lay a rose.
Thank you for your lovely expression of faith.
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 1:45 PM
To:
Subject: Re: RE: Leicester economy?
For what is worth my thoughts on this are that there are two different issues here. The first and most important one, well to me, is that Richard is now laid to rest once more with loving hands tending him. He's been through enough tests now and enough is enough. Moreover Leicester Cathedral now seems to have grasped what the bulk of people wanted..a proper tomb...not a slab...and they appear to be making a lot of changes to the cathedral to make it more in keeping for the burial of a king. Of course not everyone is going to like the tomb design and disappointed at the outcome but, come on, at long last somewhere to go and pay our respects and lay a rose. We should be rejoicing now the long wait is nearly over. Let us all move on and accept that Leicester Cathedral won...move on and rejoice. How wonderful to be able to visit and be near where he will rest.
Secondly, the Centre...and that is what it is...Secondary. It's never going to be to everybody's liking because it is a visitors centre..and invariably there is always a kind if tackiness about these places...something probably more for tourists than Ricardians.but to me it's not that important...and I doubt if I shall visit anyway. But it is what it is and we do need to accept and move on. I note that some said ion that they would never visit Richard's tomb because it was in Leicester...that is up to them but nothing on God's earth will keep me away.
To sum up I think we should be very, very well grateful he was found and that is the most important thing ....Eileen
Re: Leicester economy?
Jess From: Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... []
Sent: 29/08/2014 18:42
To:
Subject: RE: RE: Leicester economy?
Beautifully said, Eileen, and I've got to admit you are more . . . forgiving . . . understanding . . . about the Centre than I am. For the rest well you're spot on about the wonder of Richard's remains having been found and that he will receive a reburial worthy of a king. It will be wonderful to be able to visit and lay a rose.
Thank you for your lovely expression of faith.
Loyaulte me lie,
Johanne
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Johanne L. Tournier
Email - jltournier60@...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: [mailto:]
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 1:45 PM
To:
Subject: Re: RE: Leicester economy?
For what is worth my thoughts on this are that there are two different issues here. The first and most important one, well to me, is that Richard is now laid to rest once more with loving hands tending him. He's been through enough tests now and enough is enough. Moreover Leicester Cathedral now seems to have grasped what the bulk of people wanted..a proper tomb...not a slab...and they appear to be making a lot of changes to the cathedral to make it more in keeping for the burial of a king. Of course not everyone is going to like the tomb design and disappointed at the outcome but, come on, at long last somewhere to go and pay our respects and lay a rose. We should be rejoicing now the long wait is nearly over. Let us all move on and accept that Leicester Cathedral won...move on and rejoice. How wonderful to be able to visit and be near where he will rest.
Secondly, the Centre...and that is what it is...Secondary. It's never going to be to everybody's liking because it is a visitors centre..and invariably there is always a kind if tackiness about these places...something probably more for tourists than Ricardians.but to me it's not that important...and I doubt if I shall visit anyway. But it is what it is and we do need to accept and move on. I note that some said ion that they would never visit Richard's tomb because it was in Leicester...that is up to them but nothing on God's earth will keep me away.
To sum up I think we should be very, very well grateful he was found and that is the most important thing ....Eileen
Re: Leicester economy?
Re: Leicester economy?
" [snip] Secondly, the Centre...and that is what it is...Secondary. It's never going to be to everybody's liking because it is a visitors centre..and invariably there is always a kind if tackiness about these places...something probably more for tourists than Ricardians.but to me it's not that important...and I doubt if I shall visit anyway. But it is what it is and we do need to accept and move on. I note that some said ion that they would never visit Richard's tomb because it was in Leicester...that is up to them but nothing on God's earth will keep me away. [snip]"
Carol responds:
I agree with your first and last paragraphs, which I snipped. With regards to the Leicester visitor center, I certainly didn't mean to open a hornet's nest by describing it (and listing its inadequacies), but I did promise to give my reaction (in relation to Annette's blog) after visiting it. I stand by my assertion that it treats Richard as an archaeological artifact and my comments on the tastelessness of some of the exhibits, in particular the projected film highlighting "Richard's" bent back. It's tasteless and puts a mental image of a deformed Richard in the minds of visitors as they enter, leaving no room for his virtues and accomplishments (which, in any case, are either not featured or underplayed.
I have nothing against Richard's being reburied in Leicester where his will be the only tomb (in marked contrast to York Minster and especially Westminster) and I believe that the Leicester religious authorities are doing their best to give him a fitting tomb (much as I dislike the design) and appropriate service. But I do feel that the tackiness of the visitors center needs to be mentioned as a warning to anyone who considers going there, and I do hope that someone with some influence can do something about the emphasis on Richard's scoliosis.
All right, I've said enough. You're right that I can't do anything about it, but I hope that someone else can. If nothing else, the guest shop should offer real white roses for sale so that visitors can lay a white rose on Richard's tomb after he's reburied. There were no roses on the memorial slab when I went there (and none available to buy). Instead, the church's tour guide was standing on it.
I envy those who can attend the reburial. I'll be home in Tucson, of course, but I hope that it will be televised here, at least in part, by BBC America.
Carol
