NYTimes.com: Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle

NYTimes.com: Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle

2014-09-09 11:34:15
jltournier60
OK, Stonehenge is pre-medieval but must have been fascinating to the people of Richard's time as it has throughout its history. I would love to hear the comments of the knowledgeable people here of anything pertaining to the article and any possible connection to Richard. Sent by jltournier60@...: Critic?s Notebook Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle By EDWARD ROTHSTEIN

How do you renovate ancient stone arrangements? At Stonehenge, that meant reconfiguring a highway and building a new visitor center.

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Re: NYTimes.com: Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle

2014-09-09 18:18:53
Johanne,
do you know the book " Some Touch of Pity" by Rhoda Edwards? There is a scene written by
Bolman, clerk in the Privy Seal Office, who had to follow Richard on his way south to quench the Buckingham
Rebellion. He describes how a small party went to see the "Giant's Dance", where Richard discussed the
various ideas about the building's origins with him in the pouring rain. It is, of course, fiction, but very well researched.
Eva

Re: NYTimes.com: Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle

2014-09-09 18:22:56
Pamela Bain

That is wonderful. In the mists of my memory, din/t some wealthy Lord purchase the land to save Stonehenge?

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Johanne,
do you know the book " Some Touch of Pity" by Rhoda Edwards? There is a scene written by
Bolman, clerk in the Privy Seal Office, who had to follow Richard on his way south to quench the Buckingham
Rebellion. He describes how a small party went to see the "Giant's Dance", where Richard discussed the
various ideas about the building's origins with him in the pouring rain. It is, of course, fiction, but very well researched.
Eva

Stonehenge

2014-09-09 18:25:55
Pamela Bain

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France . The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included " Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion of—or even as a present for—his wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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That is wonderful. In the mists of my memory, din/t some wealthy Lord purchase the land to save Stonehenge ?

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Johanne,
do you know the book " Some Touch of Pity" by Rhoda Edwards? There is a scene written by
Bolman, clerk in the Privy Seal Office, who had to follow Richard on his way south to quench the Buckingham
Rebellion. He describes how a small party went to see the "Giant's Dance", where Richard discussed the
various ideas about the building's origins with him in the pouring rain. It is, of course, fiction, but very well researched.
Eva

Re: NYTimes.com: Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle

2014-09-09 19:41:43
Johanne Tournier

Hi, Eva 

Thank you for mentioning *Some Touch of Pity* by Rhoda Edwards. I've heard of it, but I've never read it. It is possible that it's available for kindle  I will try to check. I love scenes, even if they are fictional that locate Richard in interesting milieus, and I would certainly be interested to read what Ms. Edwards thinks Richard's thoughts about Stonehenge might have been.

Johanne

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:19 PM
To:
Subject: Re: NYTimes.com: Stonehenge at Dawn, Inside the Circle

Johanne,
do you know the book " Some Touch of Pity" by Rhoda Edwards? There is a scene written by
Bolman, clerk in the Privy Seal Office, who had to follow Richard on his way south to quench the Buckingham
Rebellion. He describes how a small party went to see the "Giant's Dance", where Richard discussed the
various ideas about the building's origins with him in the pouring rain. It is, of course, fiction, but very well researched.
Eva

Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-09 19:46:23
Johanne Tournier

Hi, Pamela –

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn’t been built yet. But I don’t recall a road running right by it – maybe it did, and I just don’t recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn’t mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

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Subject: Stonehenge

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion of—or even as a present for—his wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-09 19:51:11
Pamela Bain
Yes, Johanne, so that may or may not be absolutely correct.
On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:46 PM, "Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... []" <> wrote:

Hi, Pamela 

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn't been built yet. But I don't recall a road running right by it  maybe it did, and I just don't recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn't mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

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Email - jltournier60@...

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From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Stonehenge

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion ofor even as a present forhis wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-09 19:56:54
SandraMachin
There were views of the fence last week when President Obama visited Stonehenge and was inside the fence. He went to talk to a young family that was on the outside of the fence. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:51 PM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Stonehenge

Yes, Johanne, so that may or may not be absolutely correct.
On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:46 PM, "Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... []" <> wrote:

Hi, Pamela 

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn't been built yet. But I don't recall a road running right by it  maybe it did, and I just don't recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn't mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Stonehenge

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion ofor even as a present forhis wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-09 20:56:51
Jessie Skinner

The A303 which is the main route to the west country, and very heavily used, goes right past the site. As we have family in Devon and Cornwall we use it quite a lot.
When we were children we used to stop and climb all over the stones.
Now it is restricted as to where you can go, but if you pay a fee you can walk round it.
The roads and the chain link fencing around it are very ugly.
I, for one, would like to see the fences taken down, and the roads either diverted or put into a tunnel so the landscape could be returned to open downland.
It would be very expensive though.
In some ways because of the roads etc there I prefer the stone circle at Avebury.

Jess

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There were views of the fence last week when President Obama visited Stonehenge and was inside the fence. He went to talk to a young family that was on the outside of the fence.   Sandra =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:51 PM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Stonehenge    

Yes, Johanne, so that may or may not be absolutely correct.
On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:46 PM, "Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... []" <> wrote:

 

Hi, Pamela 

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn't been built yet. But I don't recall a road running right by it  maybe it did, and I just don't recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn't mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

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From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Stonehenge

 

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion ofor even as a present forhis wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-09 22:39:23
Tracy Bryce

I visited Stonehenge and Avebury in 2010 with my family, and there was no fence around the monument at that time.  There was a path around it, and a low rope cordon about shin-height, but no fence to speak of.  Signs just asked you to stay on the path.  For an extra fee, and with a small guided tour group, you could walk amongst the stones, at a time after the site closed to the general public.

When we were there, the A303 ran along side the site and you gained access to the visitor center/ticket booth from a muddy parking area beside the motorway, then walked through a tunnel that passed under the motorway and emerged on the other side where the path started that led around the stones.

I’ve been following the news reports about the renovation of the site for a few years.  They’ve removed/re-routed the motorway, and built a new visitor center and some model Neolithic homes about a mile away from the monument.  Now you get to the monument by taking a tram to the site.

At Avebury, you can walk amongst the stones, except for a few situated in local farmer’s fields.

Tracy

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Subject: RE: Stonehenge

Hi, Pamela –

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn’t been built yet. But I don’t recall a road running right by it – maybe it did, and I just don’t recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn’t mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Stonehenge

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion of—or even as a present for—his wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-10 08:37:55
SandraMachin
Coincidentally, I was sent an article yesterday, about British stone circles in general, in which there was this sentence: In the 14th century, in a frenzy of religious paranoia, Avebury villagers buried many of these mysterious pagan stones. It makes me wonder if there was actually a widespread fear of such stones during the mediaeval period? Might there be a touch of this in Richard's attitude? Just a thought. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 8:53 PM To: Subject: Re: Stonehenge

The A303 which is the main route to the west country, and very heavily used, goes right past the site. As we have family in Devon and Cornwall we use it quite a lot.
When we were children we used to stop and climb all over the stones.
Now it is restricted as to where you can go, but if you pay a fee you can walk round it.
The roads and the chain link fencing around it are very ugly.
I, for one, would like to see the fences taken down, and the roads either diverted or put into a tunnel so the landscape could be returned to open downland.
It would be very expensive though.
In some ways because of the roads etc there I prefer the stone circle at Avebury.

Jess

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From: 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] <>;
To: <>;
Subject: Re: Stonehenge
Sent: Tue, Sep 9, 2014 6:56:52 PM

There were views of the fence last week when President Obama visited Stonehenge and was inside the fence. He went to talk to a young family that was on the outside of the fence. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:51 PM To: mailto: Subject: Re: Stonehenge Yes, Johanne, so that may or may not be absolutely correct.
On Sep 9, 2014, at 1:46 PM, "Johanne Tournier jltournier60@... []" <> wrote:

Hi, Pamela 

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn't been built yet. But I don't recall a road running right by it  maybe it did, and I just don't recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn't mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Stonehenge

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion ofor even as a present forhis wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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Re: Stonehenge

2014-09-10 10:29:12
Janjovian
Sorry, I didn't mean there were fences round the stones, what I object to are the scruffy fences alongside the roads, and separating the site from them.
I understand the visitor centre is much better than it used to be.
It is the overall setting that I feel is being spoiled.
Particularly From: 'Tracy Bryce' tbryce@... []
Sent: 09/09/2014 22:39
To:
Subject: RE: Stonehenge

I visited Stonehenge and Avebury in 2010 with my family, and there was no fence around the monument at that time. There was a path around it, and a low rope cordon about shin-height, but no fence to speak of. Signs just asked you to stay on the path. For an extra fee, and with a small guided tour group, you could walk amongst the stones, at a time after the site closed to the general public.

When we were there, the A303 ran along side the site and you gained access to the visitor center/ticket booth from a muddy parking area beside the motorway, then walked through a tunnel that passed under the motorway and emerged on the other side where the path started that led around the stones.

I've been following the news reports about the renovation of the site for a few years. They've removed/re-routed the motorway, and built a new visitor center and some model Neolithic homes about a mile away from the monument. Now you get to the monument by taking a tram to the site.

At Avebury, you can walk amongst the stones, except for a few situated in local farmer's fields.

Tracy

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Sent: September-09-14 2:46 PM
To:
Subject: RE: Stonehenge

Hi, Pamela 

Thank you for the information! Where did you get it? Wikipedia?

When I saw Stonehenge in 1973, one could approach the monument unrestrictedly, and the Visitor Centre hadn't been built yet. But I don't recall a road running right by it  maybe it did, and I just don't recall it. But I seem to have read that, in the last few years, they built a fence or barricade of some sort around Stonehenge to prevent unrestricted access, I guess because there was so much traffic the monument was being damaged. Do you or anyone else know if that is correct? Is the fence/barricade still there? The article doesn't mention it.

I would love to see it again!

Johanne

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Johanne L. Tournier

Email - jltournier60@...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

From: [mailto:]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 2:26 PM
To:
Subject: Stonehenge

Stonehenge has changed ownership several times since King Henry VIII acquired Amesbury Abbey and its surrounding lands. In 1540 Henry gave the estate to the Earl of Hertford. It subsequently passed to Lord Carleton and then the Marquess of Queensbury. The Antrobus family of Cheshire bought the estate in 1824. During World War I an aerodrome (Royal Flying Corps "No. 1 School of Aerial Navigation and Bomb Dropping")[32] was built on the downs just to the west of the circle and, in the dry valley at Stonehenge Bottom, a main road junction was built, along with several cottages and a cafe. The Antrobus family sold the site after their last heir was killed in the fighting in France. The auction by Knight Frank & Rutley estate agents in Salisbury was held on 21 September 1915 and included "Lot 15. Stonehenge with about 30 acres, 2 rods, 37 perches of adjoining downland." [c. 12.44 ha][33]

Cecil Chubb bought the site for £6,600 and gave it to the nation three years later. Although it has been speculated that he purchased it at the suggestion ofor even as a present forhis wife, in fact he bought it on a whim, as he believed a local man should be the new owner.[33]

In the late 1920s a nation-wide appeal was launched to save Stonehenge from the encroachment of the modern buildings that had begun to rise around it.[34] By 1928 the land around the monument had been purchased with the appeal donations, and given to the National Trust to preserve. The buildings were removed (although the roads were not), and the land returned to agriculture. More recently the land has been part of a grassland reversion scheme, returning the surrounding fields to native chalk grassland.[35]

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