Edward IV bastards

Edward IV bastards

2004-10-04 16:36:19
marion cheatham
Does anyone have any futher information regarding the above. Did any of them marry and have children.

Hope someone can help



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Re: Edward IV bastards

2004-10-04 21:43:07
stephenmlark
--- In , marion cheatham
<marioncheatham2003@y...> wrote:
> Does anyone have any futher information regarding the above. Did
any of them marry and have children.
>
> Hope someone can help
>
> I am sure someone has a lot of conventional information but
Castelli will, at least, list them, even if two of the six children
have no forenames. I can look them up tomorrow night if you like.

Stephen
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Re: Edward IV bastards

2004-10-05 09:53:18
mariewalsh2003
--- In , "stephenmlark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> --- In , marion cheatham
> <marioncheatham2003@y...> wrote:
> > Does anyone have any futher information regarding the above. Did
> any of them marry and have children.
> >
> > Hope someone can help
> >
> > I am sure someone has a lot of conventional information but
> Castelli will, at least, list them, even if two of the six children
> have no forenames. I can look them up tomorrow night if you like.
>
> Stephen

Margaret married Thomas Lumley (late Lord Lumley) - she is the Lady
Lumley everyone's familiar with. The marriage licence was granted in
1480, but from a footnote to Hick's 'Edward V' I see they must have
been married some years earlier as their heir, Richard Lord Lumley,
was 30 and more in 1508. Hicks says they had 8 children altogether.
Richard Lumley married in 1489 and his heir John was 18 in 1510.
That's all I can tell you on the Lumley front. Writers post 1530
mistakenly named Margaret as Elizabeth, so I'm sure that's what
Castelli will give.

My info on the others is from an article by Peter Hammond in an old
Ricardian:-
In addition, Arthur Wayte (d. 1542 in the Tower) married Edmund
Dudley's widow, Elizabeth (nee Grey) Viscountess Lisle in Nov 1511,
and they had three daughters:-
1) Bridget (born c.1513) married William Carden
2) Elizabeth (bn c1516) m. first Sir Francis Jobson, then Sir Thomas
Monk
3) Frances (bn c1519) m. John Bassett

Additionally there are another two ladies who used arms suggestive of
Yorkist ancestry:

a) Dame Isabel Mylbery. She married one of the Audley family (John
Audley, 1470/5-after 1505). Don't know if there were any children

b) Mary (the evidence for her paternity may be stronger, but I can't
recall without looking up the article) who married Henry Harman after
1485 and had 7 sons and 3 daughters.

Grace, as I said earlier, disappears after showing at Elizabeth
Woodville's funeral. She may well have married of course and be
hiding under another surname, or she may have become a nun. Or died
young.

But all in all, as one might expect, Edward IV will not be short of
descendants.

Marie





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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: Edward IV bastards

2004-11-07 12:48:35
marion cheatham
Stephen my computer has been giving me some extreme problems, thus I have been unable to access or send messages. I would be very grateful if you could send me the information. I am most grateful for your help.

Marion

stephenmlark <smlark@...> wrote:

--- In , marion cheatham
<marioncheatham2003@y...> wrote:
> Does anyone have any futher information regarding the above. Did
any of them marry and have children.
>
> Hope someone can help
>
> I am sure someone has a lot of conventional information but
Castelli will, at least, list them, even if two of the six children
have no forenames. I can look them up tomorrow night if you like.

Stephen
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