One step forward, six back...

One step forward, six back...

2014-10-16 15:07:50
SandraMachin
I was dismayed today to receive this in Google Alerts about Richard. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/letters-ebola--why-no-quarantine-9797059.html No, not about ebola, it's the two letters below that, with a heading about the murderous king'. One is from a senior lecturer in history at a Cambridge University, who actually seems to advocate dancing on Richard's grave. What an appalling example from someone who is supposedly intelligent and responsible. Clearly this person's students will not get a well-balanced view, only traditional condemnation. The other letter is from someone equally as incapable of common sense and reason. They would not know a fact if it jumped up and bit them. No doubt the Independent will publish rebuttals, but I guess they will be chosen to appear as loony as possible. Sandra =^..^=

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-16 16:24:18
Hilary Jones
Sandra, Anglia Ruskin just has a campus based in Cambridge. It's a former Poly which speclalises in things like midwifery. Not that there is anything wrong with form Polys but I think you'll find quite a bit of the 'real' Cambridge likes Richard. so I don't think we need worry about this silly guy. H

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-16 16:40:23
SandraMachin
I was greatly miffed by the letters, I have to say, Hilary. The thought that a senior lecturer in history' could spout such stuff just appalled me. He'll look a twit if his students ever have to state the case for Richard. Presumably they won't know where to start. Muttering into my tea.... Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 4:24 PM To: Subject: Re: One step forward, six back...

Sandra, Anglia Ruskin just has a campus based in Cambridge. It's a former Poly which speclalises in things like midwifery. Not that there is anything wrong with form Polys but I think you'll find quite a bit of the 'real' Cambridge likes Richard. so I don't think we need worry about this silly guy. H

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-16 18:10:13
b.eileen25
Firstly is the first writer, Dr Sean Lewis actually going to put his money where his mouth is and go to Leicester to to dance on Richard's grave or is he merely a windbag full of hot air and a coward to boot.
To the second writer..who seems to think he is something of a right Clever Dickie..in actual fact a cart load of monkeys would exhibit more commonsense for tis a great shame he doesn't give an explanation of why they would bother to cart Rivers and Grey from Sherrif Hutton and Middleham to join Vaughan at Pontefract if they were going to be executed without trial...it makes no sense at all. Even Rouse said there was a trial with the Earl of Northumberland the chief judge...Eileen

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-16 22:29:27
ricard1an
You couldn't make it up!! It is so unintelligent to criticize Ricardians for actually doing some real research unlike the Philistines who rely on More and Shakespeare. Well maybe they have some new evidence that the rest of us don't know about.
Mary

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-16 23:01:02
SandraMachin
And what happened to innocent until proven guilty? Nothing whatsoever can be proved against Richard. He could be guilty, but that's not the same as being guilty. Nor is he the only suspect, so why should he be condemned when others get off? Circumstantial evidence isn't enough, and the fact that he was awake on a certain day doesn't mean that he was in the Tower, murdering his brother or his nephews or anyone else. If he was the devious, scheming, cold-blooded killer they'd like us to believe, I doubt very much if he'd have been far away in the north all the time. Heck no, he'd be down in London, where it's at, making sure of his plans, which would have included murdering Edward IV as well, no doubt. Oh, bottoms to them all. Richard was innocent, and the sooner these bigoted dumbos come around to conceding the point, the better. There, I feel better for a tirade. Sandra =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 10:29 PM To: Subject: Re: One step forward, six back...

You couldn't make it up!! It is so unintelligent to criticize Ricardians for actually doing some real research unlike the Philistines who rely on More and Shakespeare. Well maybe they have some new evidence that the rest of us don't know about. Mary

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-18 08:58:48
SandraMachin
Well, The Independent has printed a response to the awful letters of 16th October (link below). Here it is:- Richard III was hardly the worst of kings

Given Dr Sean Lang's hackneyed condemnation of Richard III (letter, 16 October), I am thankful that I am not one of his students.

With nothing to gain and everything to lose under the new Tudor regime, so far from regarding their late king as a tyrant or murderer, the city of York publicly mourned our good King Richard piteously slain and murdered, to the great heaviness of this city.

And when it came to wholesale political murder, Henrys VII and VIII made Richard III look like a fumbling amateur.

Richard Humble
Exeter

Thank you, Richard Humble.

Sandra

=^..^=

From: mailto: Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:07 PM To: Subject: One step forward, six back...

I was dismayed today to receive this in Google Alerts about Richard. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/letters-ebola--why-no-quarantine-9797059.html No, not about ebola, it's the two letters below that, with a heading about the murderous king'. One is from a senior lecturer in history at a Cambridge University, who actually seems to advocate dancing on Richard's grave. What an appalling example from someone who is supposedly intelligent and responsible. Clearly this person's students will not get a well-balanced view, only traditional condemnation. The other letter is from someone equally as incapable of common sense and reason. They would not know a fact if it jumped up and bit them. No doubt the Independent will publish rebuttals, but I guess they will be chosen to appear as loony as possible. Sandra =^..^=

Re: One step forward, six back...

2014-10-18 11:17:06
Gilda Felt
What a great response. Thanks for posting it here, Sandra.
Gilda


On Oct 18, 2014, at 3:58 AM, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:


Well, The Independent has printed a response to the awful letters of 16th October (link below). Here it is:- Richard III was hardly the worst of kings

Given Dr Sean Lang's hackneyed condemnation of Richard III (letter, 16 October), I am thankful that I am not one of his students.

With nothing to gain and everything to lose under the new Tudor regime, so far from regarding their late king as a tyrant or murderer, the city of York publicly mourned our good King Richard piteously slain and murdered, to the great heaviness of this city.

And when it came to wholesale political murder, Henrys VII and VIII made Richard III look like a fumbling amateur.

Richard Humble
Exeter

Thank you, Richard Humble.

Sandra

=^..^=

From: mailto:Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:07 PMTo: Subject: One step forward, six back...
I was dismayed today to receive this in Google Alerts about Richard. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/letters-ebola--why-no-quarantine-9797059.html No, not about ebola, it's the two letters below that, with a heading about the murderous king'. One is from a senior lecturer in history at a Cambridge University, who actually seems to advocate dancing on Richard's grave. What an appalling example from someone who is supposedly intelligent and responsible. Clearly this person's students will not get a well-balanced view, only traditional condemnation. The other letter is from someone equally as incapable of common sense and reason. They would not know a fact if it jumped up and bit them. No doubt the Independent will publish rebuttals, but I guess they will be chosen to appear as loony as possible. Sandra=^..^=


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