Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re:Johnson's Elizabeth I

Johnson - fantastic, I have had it for a decade but the people, as descendants of the Yorkist and Early Tudor figures, are more meaningful.
Johnson, like Neville Williams, Starkey and our online friend Castelli can document the Tudor period without becoming "groupies" (unlike Weir).

"Huntingdon" - very good. I didn't know he existed until last year when Jones' article on the Aussie Earl was published - my Chairman was under the impression that the Clarence line had died out, like the Suffolks. Here is THE Yorkist heir (Lady M's senior great-grandson), yet Elizabeth let him guard Mary Stuart and be a "viceroy" in the North for 23 years. He was called the Puritan Earl because he was a Continental Protestant, not a Cranmerian one, and almost became King in 1562 when Elizabeth was suffering from smallpox.

Re-reading later history from a Yorkist perspective is different and I find it enthralling.

PS You are right about Leicester being Elizabeth Sidney's great-niece. According to Castelli, she and Rutland both died in 1612 and she was suspected of poisoning him. Sidney and Essex shared a wife. Claire Cross (Huntingdon biographer) has some great genealogies.
Johnson can probably be bought in paperback and Cross should be at most libraries.

Stephen
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From: Carol Mitchell
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Subject: Re:Johnson's Elizabeth I





Anyway, I have finished Johnson's Elizabeth I. This time, I
understand who Essex was genealogically, I knew which Earl of Rutland
was involved in the 1601 rebellion (5th, married to Sir Phillip
Sidney's daughter who was, I believe, Leicester's niece). Rutland and
Essex were minor Yorkist heirs - I enjoyed the book at least twice as
much as before and start the Huntingdon biography soon.

Stephen



She'd have been Leicester's great-niece, as Sir Philip was his nephew. How was the book?

Carol























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--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
> Johnson - fantastic, I have had it for a decade but the people, as
descendants of the Yorkist and Early Tudor figures, are more
meaningful.
> Johnson, like Neville Williams, Starkey and our online friend
Castelli can document the Tudor period without becoming "groupies"
(unlike Weir).
>
> "Huntingdon" - very good. I didn't know he existed until last year
when Jones' article on the Aussie Earl was published - my Chairman
was under the impression that the Clarence line had died out, like
the Suffolks. Here is THE Yorkist heir (Lady M's senior great-
grandson), yet Elizabeth let him guard Mary Stuart and be a "viceroy"
in the North for 23 years. He was called the Puritan Earl because he
was a Continental Protestant, not a Cranmerian one, and almost became
King in 1562 when Elizabeth was suffering from smallpox.
>
> Re-reading later history from a Yorkist perspective is different
and I find it enthralling.
>
> PS You are right about Leicester being Elizabeth Sidney's great-
niece. According to Castelli, she and Rutland both died in 1612 and
she was suspected of poisoning him. Sidney and Essex shared a wife.
Claire Cross (Huntingdon biographer) has some great genealogies.
> Johnson can probably be bought in paperback and Cross should be at
most libraries.
>
> Stephen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carol Mitchell
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re:Johnson's Elizabeth I
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> Anyway, I have finished Johnson's Elizabeth I. This time, I
> understand who Essex was genealogically, I knew which Earl of
Rutland
> was involved in the 1601 rebellion (5th, married to Sir Phillip
> Sidney's daughter who was, I believe, Leicester's niece). Rutland
and
> Essex were minor Yorkist heirs - I enjoyed the book at least
twice as
> much as before and start the Huntingdon biography soon.
>
> Stephen
>
> ..... and now I have finished Henry of Huntingdon, which I would
recommend to anyone. Next stop: the New DNB where Hicks' article on
Thomas Stafford replaces AF Pollard's. I hope to solve
the "seniority" mystery. At the moment, the Old DNB, Burke's and the
Complete Peerage contradict each other about whether he was older
than his brother Henry.

Stephen
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