Henry VII bios
Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 09:38:27
I've decided it's time I rectified my almost total ignorance of Henry
VII's reign.
Anyone like to suggest the most detailed biography? (Not so concerned
about interpretation.)
Marie
VII's reign.
Anyone like to suggest the most detailed biography? (Not so concerned
about interpretation.)
Marie
Re: Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 16:16:01
--- In , "mariewalsh2003"
<marie@r...> wrote:
>
> I've decided it's time I rectified my almost total ignorance of
Henry
> VII's reign.
>
> Anyone like to suggest the most detailed biography? (Not so
concerned
> about interpretation.)
>
> Marie
Most detailed is Chrimes, Henry VII. As topper uppers use Carpenter,
Wars of the Roses (latest, critical thinking on H7 chapter) and
Gunn, Early Tudor Government.
B
<marie@r...> wrote:
>
> I've decided it's time I rectified my almost total ignorance of
Henry
> VII's reign.
>
> Anyone like to suggest the most detailed biography? (Not so
concerned
> about interpretation.)
>
> Marie
Most detailed is Chrimes, Henry VII. As topper uppers use Carpenter,
Wars of the Roses (latest, critical thinking on H7 chapter) and
Gunn, Early Tudor Government.
B
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 17:02:42
Chrimes is the only Henry VII biographyI know, and it is of the sober kind.
Regards
Ann
mariewalsh2003 <marie@...> wrote:
I've decided it's time I rectified my almost total ignorance of Henry
VII's reign.
Anyone like to suggest the most detailed biography? (Not so concerned
about interpretation.)
Marie
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Ann
mariewalsh2003 <marie@...> wrote:
I've decided it's time I rectified my almost total ignorance of Henry
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Anyone like to suggest the most detailed biography? (Not so concerned
about interpretation.)
Marie
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 17:31:08
Chrimes is the only Henry VII biographyI know, and it is of the sober kind.<BR>
Regards<
Ann
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You can also get an interesting view of Henry in Garrett Mattingly's bio of Catherine of Aragon.
Maria
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Regards<
Ann
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You can also get an interesting view of Henry in Garrett Mattingly's bio of Catherine of Aragon.
Maria
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 19:03:43
Warning: I haven't read any of these but Mackie (The Earlier Tudors), which I quite like although it is a little too favourable, cites these sources:
The Life of King Henry VII by Bacon 1622,
Gairdner 1889, Gladys Temperley 1918. Chrimes is not mentioned
Stephen
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Chrimes is the only Henry VII biographyI know, and it is of the sober kind.<BR>
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The Life of King Henry VII by Bacon 1622,
Gairdner 1889, Gladys Temperley 1918. Chrimes is not mentioned
Stephen
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Chrimes is the only Henry VII biographyI know, and it is of the sober kind.<BR>
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Ann
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 19:43:47
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
> Warning: I haven't read any of these but Mackie (The Earlier
Tudors), which I quite like although it is a little too favourable,
cites these sources:
> The Life of King Henry VII by Bacon 1622,
> Gairdner 1889, Gladys Temperley 1918. Chrimes is not mentioned
>
> Stephen
>
Chrimes has been the standard work since the 70s but is very much
the old "new monarchy" interpretation giving H7 more credit for
government reform than he is given today (since more is given to
Edward), though it is acknowledged that he was building on Yorkist
foundations. Another is Michael Van Cleave Alexander, The First of
the Tudors, but though probably the 2nd most full account after
Chrimes is not as good. Alexander Grant's small version and the the
standard Roger Lockyer (Seminars series) updated with Andrew Thrush
is also invaluable, and Roger, too, has taken a more critical line
in the new edition. Roger's old standard work Tudor and Stuart
Britain is also sound but not a full biog. and neither is Mackie,
which is good for factual reference but not much else. Mackie is
very old (1952), published long before Chrimes was written (1972) so
it would not refer to his work. For the fullest biog there is no
rival to Chrimes, provided one takes his views with a sizeable pinch
of salt.
Brunhild
<smlark@t...> wrote:
> Warning: I haven't read any of these but Mackie (The Earlier
Tudors), which I quite like although it is a little too favourable,
cites these sources:
> The Life of King Henry VII by Bacon 1622,
> Gairdner 1889, Gladys Temperley 1918. Chrimes is not mentioned
>
> Stephen
>
Chrimes has been the standard work since the 70s but is very much
the old "new monarchy" interpretation giving H7 more credit for
government reform than he is given today (since more is given to
Edward), though it is acknowledged that he was building on Yorkist
foundations. Another is Michael Van Cleave Alexander, The First of
the Tudors, but though probably the 2nd most full account after
Chrimes is not as good. Alexander Grant's small version and the the
standard Roger Lockyer (Seminars series) updated with Andrew Thrush
is also invaluable, and Roger, too, has taken a more critical line
in the new edition. Roger's old standard work Tudor and Stuart
Britain is also sound but not a full biog. and neither is Mackie,
which is good for factual reference but not much else. Mackie is
very old (1952), published long before Chrimes was written (1972) so
it would not refer to his work. For the fullest biog there is no
rival to Chrimes, provided one takes his views with a sizeable pinch
of salt.
Brunhild
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Henry VII bios
2004-11-03 20:32:56
--- In , "brunhild613"
<brunhild613@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "Stephen Lark"
> <smlark@t...> wrote:
> > Warning: I haven't read any of these but Mackie (The Earlier
> Tudors), which I quite like although it is a little too favourable,
> cites these sources:
> > The Life of King Henry VII by Bacon 1622,
> > Gairdner 1889, Gladys Temperley 1918. Chrimes is not mentioned
> >
> > Stephen
> >
>
> Chrimes has been the standard work since the 70s but is very much
> the old "new monarchy" interpretation giving H7 more credit for
> government reform than he is given today (since more is given to
> Edward), though it is acknowledged that he was building on Yorkist
> foundations. Another is Michael Van Cleave Alexander, The First of
> the Tudors, but though probably the 2nd most full account after
> Chrimes is not as good. Alexander Grant's small version and the the
> standard Roger Lockyer (Seminars series) updated with Andrew Thrush
> is also invaluable, and Roger, too, has taken a more critical line
> in the new edition. Roger's old standard work Tudor and Stuart
> Britain is also sound but not a full biog. and neither is Mackie,
> which is good for factual reference but not much else. Mackie is
> very old (1952), published long before Chrimes was written (1972)
so
> it would not refer to his work. For the fullest biog there is no
> rival to Chrimes, provided one takes his views with a sizeable
pinch
> of salt.
> Brunhild
Excellent! Thank everybody. Sounds like Chrimes it is, then.
Marie
<brunhild613@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "Stephen Lark"
> <smlark@t...> wrote:
> > Warning: I haven't read any of these but Mackie (The Earlier
> Tudors), which I quite like although it is a little too favourable,
> cites these sources:
> > The Life of King Henry VII by Bacon 1622,
> > Gairdner 1889, Gladys Temperley 1918. Chrimes is not mentioned
> >
> > Stephen
> >
>
> Chrimes has been the standard work since the 70s but is very much
> the old "new monarchy" interpretation giving H7 more credit for
> government reform than he is given today (since more is given to
> Edward), though it is acknowledged that he was building on Yorkist
> foundations. Another is Michael Van Cleave Alexander, The First of
> the Tudors, but though probably the 2nd most full account after
> Chrimes is not as good. Alexander Grant's small version and the the
> standard Roger Lockyer (Seminars series) updated with Andrew Thrush
> is also invaluable, and Roger, too, has taken a more critical line
> in the new edition. Roger's old standard work Tudor and Stuart
> Britain is also sound but not a full biog. and neither is Mackie,
> which is good for factual reference but not much else. Mackie is
> very old (1952), published long before Chrimes was written (1972)
so
> it would not refer to his work. For the fullest biog there is no
> rival to Chrimes, provided one takes his views with a sizeable
pinch
> of salt.
> Brunhild
Excellent! Thank everybody. Sounds like Chrimes it is, then.
Marie