Maybe the best way to get to the truth isn't by defending Richard

Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor. Showing their real character and their actions, will do more to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth. We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the Stanleys.As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe the history books:I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's biography(with the help of a ghost writer). He said that Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is the story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies start with the first fact in his book, The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid, The Noted Desperado of the SouthwestPat's ghost writer said that Billy was born November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson. Almost all of Billy's friends said that Billy was born in 1861. Garrett said 1859, many historians believe so that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21 yearsWell, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed 21 people. He probably "only" killed nine. But that is where the story gets interesting.The first was the village blacksmith in Bonita, Arizona, Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan. The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at over six feet and 200+ lbs. He was the strongest man in town. He didn't like "the kid" from the beginning and would beat the hell out of him every chance he got using any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made this time different, probably calling Billy a "son-of-a-bitch" was the last straw. Billy was Irish and loved his late mother. After a few minutes of getting beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed his gun and shot Windy dead. Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the time, he would forego buying food to buy bullets. He got to be so good that people said he was a dead shot, with lightening reaction time. Only a fool would challenge him. Which brings up the second shooting, a drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the witnesses agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the guy, unfortunately the situation spun out of control. When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it. The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill Hickok, was 100 times faster. How many people know that Billy McCarty was actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer and friend John Tunstall. The local Justice of the Peace swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch hands as officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how the Lincoln County War started. Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that treated him like he was "free-born and white." Billy killed 5 of the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War, but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy, because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually was one of the last men standing and initiated a peace agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy turned himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word and Billy was tried and sentenced to death for shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of whom had been one of the men who murdered John Tunstall in cold blood.One western historian put it best, Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the dead, trying to give them peace and justice. My only point is that almost no one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy to believe "history". But the truth is something quite different. And it makes Billy sound much better. We've all seen the picture of Billy while he was on the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when he was all cleaned up on my blog: Down the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the Kid never got in life, was Justice Down the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the K... Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many People think that Billy was illiterate, they are 100% wrong. View on briankeithohara.blogs... Preview by Yahoo

That is so very interesting, and even four hundred years after Richard III, the "truth" is a very elusive thing.



On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, bkohatl@... [] <> wrote:


Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor. Showing their real character and their actions, will do more
to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth.

We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the Stanleys.


As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe the history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's biography(with the help of a ghost writer). He said that Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is
the story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies start with the first fact in his book,
The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid, The Noted Desperado of the Southwest


Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson. Almost all of Billy's friends said that Billy was born in 1861. Garrett said 1859, many historians
believe so that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21 years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed 21 people. He probably "only" killed nine. But that is where the story gets interesting.


The first was the village blacksmith in Bonita, Arizona, Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan. The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at over six feet and 200+ lbs. He was the strongest man in town. He didn't like "the kid"
from the beginning and would beat the hell out of him every chance he got using any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made this time different, probably calling Billy a "son-of-a-bitch" was the
last straw. Billy was Irish and loved his late mother. After a few minutes of getting beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed his gun and shot Windy dead.

Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the time, he would forego buying food to buy bullets. He got to be so good that people said he was a dead shot, with lightening reaction time. Only a fool would challenge him. Which brings up the second
shooting, a drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the witnesses agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the guy, unfortunately the situation
spun out of control. When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it. The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill Hickok, was 100 times faster.



How many people know that Billy McCarty was actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer and friend John Tunstall. The local Justice of the Peace swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch
hands as officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how the Lincoln County War started.

Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that treated him like he was "free-born and
white." Billy killed 5 of the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War, but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy, because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually was one of the last men standing and initiated
a peace agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy turned himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word and Billy was tried and sentenced to death
for shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of whom had been one of the men who murdered John Tunstall in cold blood.
One western historian put it best, Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the dead, trying to give them peace and justice.



My only point is that almost no one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy to believe "history". But the truth is something quite different. And it makes Billy sound much better. We've all seen the picture of Billy while
he was on the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when he was all cleaned up on my blog:
Down the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the Kid never got in life, was Justice
Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the K...
Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many People think that Billy was illiterate, they are 100% wrong.
View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview by Yahoo

Famous phrases......
Truth is the Daughter of Time;

To the living we owe respect, to the dead only truth [Voltaire]

On 17/01/2015 15:03, Pamela Bain
pbain@... [] wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four hundred years
after Richard III, the "truth" is a very elusive thing.



On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, bkohatl@...
[] <>
wrote:

 
Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't
by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own
right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of
Buckingham, and Henry Tudor. Showing their real
character and their actions, will do more to defend
Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of
those who favor Leicester and the traditional history,
including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people
knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard
III and you "know" the truth.

We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor
were playing each other, both only looking out for
themselves, treachery for profit.  A skill mastered by
the Stanleys.


As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe
the history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid.  Pat
Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He
killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's
biography(with the help of a ghost writer). He said that
Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is the
story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to
be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies
start with the first fact in his book,
The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid,
The Noted Desperado of the Southwest


Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born
November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the
birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson.
Almost all of Billy's friends said that Billy was born
in 1861.  Garrett said 1859, many historians believe so
that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21
years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed
21 people. He probably "only" killed nine.  But that is
where the story gets interesting.


The first was the village blacksmith in Bonita,
Arizona, Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan.
The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at
over six feet and 200+ lbs.  He was the strongest man in
town. He didn't like "the kid"  from the beginning and
would beat the hell out of him every chance he got using
any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and
bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made
this time different, probably calling Billy a
"son-of-a-bitch" was the last straw. Billy was Irish and
loved his late mother. After a few minutes of getting
beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed
his gun and shot Windy dead.

Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the
time, he would forego buying  food to buy bullets. He
got  to be so good that people said he was a dead shot,
with lightening reaction time. Only a fool would
challenge him. Which brings up the second shooting, a
drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the
Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when
he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the
witnesses agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the
guy, unfortunately the situation spun out of control.
When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it.
The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill
Hickok, was 100 times faster.



How many people know that Billy McCarty was
actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The
Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer
and friend John Tunstall. The local Justice of the Peace
swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch hands as
officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how
the Lincoln County War started.

Billy would later say of John Tunstall,  Tunstall was one of the only men that
treated him like he was "free-born
and
white."  Billy killed 5 of
the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War,
but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy,
because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually
was one of the last men standing and initiated a peace
agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a
pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the
grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy turned
himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word
and Billy was tried and sentenced to death for
shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his
hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of
whom had been one of the men who murdered John
Tunstall in cold blood.
One western historian put it best,
Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he
wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the
dead, trying to give them peace and justice.



My only point is that almost no
one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy
to believe "history".  But the truth is something
quite different. And it makes Billy sound much better.
We've all seen the picture of Billy while he was on
the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away
wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when
he was all cleaned up on my blog:
Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the
Kid never got in life, was Justice



Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing
Billy the K...
    Billy the Kid was a good Kid  Many
People think that Billy was illiterate, they
are 100% wrong.

View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview
by Yahoo

 

I read that Voltaire is now a hit again. Along with copies of Charlie Hebdo, his books are flying off the shelves.

From:
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Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:02 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Maybe the best way to get to thetruth isn't by defending Richard



Famous phrases......
Truth is the Daughter of Time ;

To the living we owe respect, to the dead only truth [Voltaire]
On 17/01/2015 15:03,
Pamela Bain
pbain@... [] wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four hundred years after Richard III, the "truth" is a very elusive thing.



On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, bkohatl@... [] <> wrote:


Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor.
Showing their real character and their actions, will do more to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor
Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth.

We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the
Stanleys .

As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe the history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's biography(with the help of a ghost writer).
He said that Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is the story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies start with the first fact in his book,
The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid, The Noted Desperado of the Southwest

Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson. Almost all of Billy's friends said that
Billy was born in 1861. Garrett said 1859, many historians believe so that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21 years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed 21 people. He probably "only" killed nine. But that is where the story gets interesting.

The first was the village blacksmith in
Bonita ,
Arizona , Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan. The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at over six feet and 200+ lbs. He was the strongest man in town. He didn't like "the kid" from the beginning and would beat
the hell out of him every chance he got using any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made this time different, probably calling Billy a "son-of-a-bitch" was the last straw. Billy was Irish and loved
his late mother. After a few minutes of getting beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed his gun and shot Windy dead.

Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the time, he would forego buying food to buy bullets. He got to be so good that people said he was a dead shot, with lightening reaction
time. Only a fool would challenge him. Which brings up the second shooting, a drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the witnesses
agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the guy, unfortunately the situation spun out of control. When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it. The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill Hickok, was 100 times faster.


How many people know that Billy McCarty was actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer and friend John Tunstall. The local
Justice of the Peace swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch hands as officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how the Lincoln County War started.

Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that treated him like he was "free-born
and white." Billy killed 5 of the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War, but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy,
because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually was one of the last men standing and initiated a peace agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy
turned himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word and Billy was tried and sentenced to death for shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of whom had been one of the men who murdered John
Tunstall in cold blood.
One western historian put it best, Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the dead, trying to give them peace
and justice.

My only point is that almost no one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy to believe "history". But the truth is something quite different. And it makes Billy
sound much better. We've all seen the picture of Billy while he was on the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when he was all cleaned up on my blog:
Down the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the Kid never got in life, was Justice








Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the K...

Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many People think that Billy was illiterate, they are 100% wrong.


View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview
by Yahoo

Well quoted, Paul. :-)Judy Loyaulte me lie On Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:01 PM, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:
Famous phrases......
Truth is the Daughter of Time;

To the living we owe respect, to the dead only truth [Voltaire]

On 17/01/2015 15:03, Pamela Bain
pbain@... [] wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four hundred years
after Richard III, the "truth" is a very elusive thing.



On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, bkohatl@...
[] <>
wrote:

Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't
by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own
right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of
Buckingham, and Henry Tudor. Showing their real
character and their actions, will do more to defend
Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of
those who favor Leicester and the traditional history,
including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people
knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard
III and you "know" the truth.
We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor
were playing each other, both only looking out for
themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by
the Stanleys.

As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe
the history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat
Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He
killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's
biography(with the help of a ghost writer). He said that
Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is the
story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to
be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies
start with the first fact in his book,
The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid,
The Noted Desperado of the Southwest

Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born
November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the
birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson.
Almost all of Billy's friends said that Billy was born
in 1861. Garrett said 1859, many historians believe so
that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21
years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed
21 people. He probably "only" killed nine. But that is
where the story gets interesting.

The first was the village blacksmith in Bonita,
Arizona, Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan.
The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at
over six feet and 200+ lbs. He was the strongest man in
town. He didn't like "the kid" from the beginning and
would beat the hell out of him every chance he got using
any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and
bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made
this time different, probably calling Billy a
"son-of-a-bitch" was the last straw. Billy was Irish and
loved his late mother. After a few minutes of getting
beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed
his gun and shot Windy dead.
Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the
time, he would forego buying food to buy bullets. He
got to be so good that people said he was a dead shot,
with lightening reaction time. Only a fool would
challenge him. Which brings up the second shooting, a
drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the
Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when
he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the
witnesses agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the
guy, unfortunately the situation spun out of control.
When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it.
The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill
Hickok, was 100 times faster.

How many people know that Billy McCarty was
actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The
Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer
and friend John Tunstall. The local Justice of the Peace
swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch hands as
officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how
the Lincoln County War started.
Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that
treated him like he was "free-born
and
white." Billy killed 5 of
the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War,
but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy,
because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually
was one of the last men standing and initiated a peace
agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a
pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the
grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy turned
himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word
and Billy was tried and sentenced to death for
shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his
hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of
whom had been one of the men who murdered John
Tunstall in cold blood.
One western historian put it best,
Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he
wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the
dead, trying to give them peace and justice.

My only point is that almost no
one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy
to believe "history". But the truth is something
quite different. And it makes Billy sound much better.
We've all seen the picture of Billy while he was on
the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away
wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when
he was all cleaned up on my blog:
Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the
Kid never got in life, was Justice



Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing
Billy the K...
Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many
People think that Billy was illiterate, they
are 100% wrong.

View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview
by Yahoo

Although it's my understanding, someone *other* than Voltaire, himself (like his Biographer, maybe?) actually made the very famous statement:"I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it!"Judy Loyaulte me lie On Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:09 PM, "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <> wrote:
I read that Voltaire is now a hit again. Along with copies of Charlie Hebdo, his books are flying off the shelves.
From:
[mailto: ]

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:02 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Maybe the best way to get to thetruth isn't by defending Richard
Famous phrases......
Truth is the Daughter of Time ;

To the living we owe respect, to the dead only truth [Voltaire]
On 17/01/2015 15:03,
Pamela Bain
pbain@... [] wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four hundred years after Richard III, the "truth" is a very elusive thing.


On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, bkohatl@... [] <> wrote:
Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor.
Showing their real character and their actions, will do more to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor
Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth.
We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the
Stanleys .
As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe the history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's biography(with the help of a ghost writer).
He said that Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is the story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies start with the first fact in his book,
The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid, The Noted Desperado of the Southwest
Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson. Almost all of Billy's friends said that
Billy was born in 1861. Garrett said 1859, many historians believe so that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21 years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed 21 people. He probably "only" killed nine. But that is where the story gets interesting.
The first was the village blacksmith in
Bonita ,
Arizona , Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan. The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at over six feet and 200+ lbs. He was the strongest man in town. He didn't like "the kid" from the beginning and would beat
the hell out of him every chance he got using any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made this time different, probably calling Billy a "son-of-a-bitch" was the last straw. Billy was Irish and loved
his late mother. After a few minutes of getting beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed his gun and shot Windy dead.
Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the time, he would forego buying food to buy bullets. He got to be so good that people said he was a dead shot, with lightening reaction
time. Only a fool would challenge him. Which brings up the second shooting, a drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the witnesses
agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the guy, unfortunately the situation spun out of control. When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it. The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill Hickok, was 100 times faster.
How many people know that Billy McCarty was actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer and friend John Tunstall. The local
Justice of the Peace swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch hands as officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how the Lincoln County War started.
Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that treated him like he was "free-born
and white." Billy killed 5 of the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War, but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy,
because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually was one of the last men standing and initiated a peace agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy
turned himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word and Billy was tried and sentenced to death for shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of whom had been one of the men who murdered John
Tunstall in cold blood.
One western historian put it best, Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the dead, trying to give them peace
and justice.
My only point is that almost no one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy to believe "history". But the truth is something quite different. And it makes Billy
sound much better. We've all seen the picture of Billy while he was on the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when he was all cleaned up on my blog:
Down the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the Kid never got in life, was Justice
Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the K...
Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many People think that Billy was illiterate, they are 100% wrong.
View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview
by Yahoo

And very interesting about Billy the Kid. I totally agree that no one has thoroughly explored Henry Stafford. To combine both these subjects, metaphorically, we just might find a "smoking gun" that's been there all along, but gone unnoticed until...? A project for Somebody.Judy Loyaulte me lie On Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:21 PM, Judy Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...> wrote: Although it's my understanding, someone *other* than Voltaire, himself (like his Biographer, maybe?) actually made the very famous statement:"I may not agree with what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it!"Judy Loyaulte me lie On Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:09 PM, "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <> wrote:
I read that Voltaire is now a hit again. Along with copies of Charlie Hebdo, his books are flying off the shelves.
From:
[mailto: ]

Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:02 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Maybe the best way to get to thetruth isn't by defending Richard
Famous phrases......
Truth is the Daughter of Time ;

To the living we owe respect, to the dead only truth [Voltaire]
On 17/01/2015 15:03,
Pamela Bain
pbain@... [] wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four hundred years after Richard III, the "truth" is a very elusive thing.


On Jan 17, 2015, at 7:33 AM, bkohatl@... [] <> wrote:
Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor.
Showing their real character and their actions, will do more to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor
Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth.
We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the
Stanleys .
As long as you don't know the truth you'll believe the history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat Garrett was the Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico. He killed Billy in an ambush, then wrote Billy's biography(with the help of a ghost writer).
He said that Billy killed 21 men by his 21st birthday. That is the story everyone knows. That fact alone makes him out to be incredibly evil. Not any truth in it. And the lies start with the first fact in his book,
The Authentic Life of Billy, the Kid, The Noted Desperado of the Southwest
Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born November 23, 1859. Funny thing that date was the birthday of Garrett's ghost writer, Sheriff Ash Upson. Almost all of Billy's friends said that
Billy was born in 1861. Garrett said 1859, many historians believe so that he could say that Billy killed 21 men in his 21 years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never killed 21 people. He probably "only" killed nine. But that is where the story gets interesting.
The first was the village blacksmith in
Bonita ,
Arizona , Billy was a sixteen-year-old, 125 lb. orphan. The town blacksmith, Windy Cahill, was the town bully at over six feet and 200+ lbs. He was the strongest man in town. He didn't like "the kid" from the beginning and would beat
the hell out of him every chance he got using any pretext. At some point Billy saved his money and bought himself an equalizer. We won't know what made this time different, probably calling Billy a "son-of-a-bitch" was the last straw. Billy was Irish and loved
his late mother. After a few minutes of getting beaten, Billy was able to work his hand free and grabbed his gun and shot Windy dead.
Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting all the time, he would forego buying food to buy bullets. He got to be so good that people said he was a dead shot, with lightening reaction
time. Only a fool would challenge him. Which brings up the second shooting, a drunken cowboy said that he was going to kill Billy the Kid. Unfortunately 17-year-old Billy was in the bar when he said it. Billy tried to discourage the guy. All the witnesses
agreed, Billy didn't want to hurt the guy, unfortunately the situation spun out of control. When you go looking for trouble, you usually find it. The drunk pulled his gun and Billy, like Wild Bill Hickok, was 100 times faster.
How many people know that Billy McCarty was actually a legally deputized officer of the law. The Sheriff of Lincoln, New Mexico murdered Billy's employer and friend John Tunstall. The local
Justice of the Peace swore Billy and his fellow Tunstall ranch hands as officers of the law to arrest the sheriff. That is how the Lincoln County War started.
Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that treated him like he was "free-born
and white." Billy killed 5 of the 200 men who died during the Lincoln County War, but nobody wanted to get in a gun battle with Billy,
because they knew that they would lose. Billy actually was one of the last men standing and initiated a peace agreement to end the "War". Then he was offered a pardon by the Governor if he would testify before the grand jury investigating the fighting. Billy
turned himself in and testified. The Governor broke his word and Billy was tried and sentenced to death for shooting Sheriff Brady. Within two weeks of his hanging Billy escaped, shooting two deputies, one of whom had been one of the men who murdered John
Tunstall in cold blood.
One western historian put it best, Billy had the fault of many young men and boys, he wasn't fighting for himself he was fighting for the dead, trying to give them peace
and justice.
My only point is that almost no one knows the truth about Billy, that is why so easy to believe "history". But the truth is something quite different. And it makes Billy
sound much better. We've all seen the picture of Billy while he was on the run in 1881, when "he was rode hard and put away wet". Well I have the story and picture of Billy when he was all cleaned up on my blog:
Down the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the Kid never got in life, was Justice
Down
the road less traveled..: The one thing Billy the K...
Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many People think that Billy was illiterate, they are 100% wrong.
View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview
by Yahoo

Or, as Inspector Alan Grant (Daughter of Time) would say: "Tonypandy" I think your suggestion an excellent one: even those most skeptical of Riccardians and their passion probably believe, at heart, that a person's character and pattern of behavior is more or less consistent over their lifetime -- and certainly doesn't change 180 degrees within a matter of days when they are in their early 30s!. Therefore it might help a good deal if the oft-repeated cry of "but the person Richard was would not have chosen to do this" was supplemented by showing that "the person Buckingham/Henry/Margaret was could well and easily have chosen to do this". Fascinating information about Billy the Kid. And it fit in so very well with a recent re-reading of Daughter of Time.To: From: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:33:00 -0800Subject: Maybe the best way to get to the truth isn't by defending Richard
Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor. Showing their real character and their actions, will do more to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth. We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the Stanleys.

Surely the biggest propegator of the myth is Shakespeare (and as a dramatist/poet I love him), not because of his portrayal of Richard, but because of the poetic licence he takes to make the WOTR end with Tudor rescue at Bosworth Field - something which has permeated history books ever since? The WOTR ended in the aftermath of Tewkesbury with the death of Hero Henry's heirs. What followed in its aftermath was the disintegration of the House of York and a group of scheming dispossessed individuals who ended up in the last hope saloon with another one of their sort, Henry Tudor. I doubt any of them thought they would displace a king, and I include MB, Bray, Morton and HT himself in that. But, by a horrible fluke of history a bit of French speculation and a misjudged charge gave us the Tudors. I agree, we shouldn't be defending Richard; that smacks of the inference that he was guilty of something and, dare I say, that we are loonies or fanatics. I agree we can apportion blame for scheming and disruption and even for whatever did happen to those princes, but when we do, it will be hard to exclude Edward and his dealings with Louis XI for a large part in the outcome of all this. H From: "ebs 222 ebs222@... []" <> To: "" <> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2015, 19:59 Subject: RE: Maybe the best way to get to the truth isn't by defending Richard
Or, as Inspector Alan Grant (Daughter of Time) would say: "Tonypandy" I think your suggestion an excellent one: even those most skeptical of Riccardians and their passion probably believe, at heart, that a person's character and pattern of behavior is more or less consistent over their lifetime -- and certainly doesn't change 180 degrees within a matter of days when they are in their early 30s!. Therefore it might help a good deal if the oft-repeated cry of "but the person Richard was would not have chosen to do this" was supplemented by showing that "the person Buckingham/Henry/Margaret was could well and easily have chosen to do this". Fascinating information about Billy the Kid. And it fit in so very well with a recent re-reading of Daughter of Time.To: From: Date: Sat, 17 Jan 2015 05:33:00 -0800Subject: Maybe the best way to get to the truth isn't by defending Richard
Maybe the best way to show people the truth isn't by defending Richard, which is a good cause in its own right, but by investigating Henry Stafford, the Duke of Buckingham, and Henry Tudor. Showing their real character and their actions, will do more to defend Richard than a defense of Richard.The dismissiveness of those who favor Leicester and the traditional history, including Prime Minister Cameron, depends on people knowing no more than that. Read Shakespeare's Richard III and you "know" the truth. We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry Tudor were playing each other, both only looking out for themselves, treachery for profit. A skill mastered by the Stanleys.

Voltaire himself said it, hence the surge in interest in his works.
As for Henry Stafford, I spent an entire summer trying to track him
down, eventually giving up. He is a very difficult man to pin down.
I handed my work over to the American branch who I think published
it on the website, or in their magazine.
Paul

On 17/01/2015 22:28, Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@... [] wrote:
And
very interesting about Billy the Kid. 

I totally agree
that no one has thoroughly explored Henry Stafford. 

To combine both these subjects,
metaphorically, we just might find a "smoking gun"
that's been there all along, but gone unnoticed
until...? A project for Somebody.

Judy
 
Loyaulte me lie




On
Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:21 PM, Judy
Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...>
wrote:


Although it's my
understanding, someone *other* than
Voltaire, himself (like his
Biographer, maybe?) actually made the
very famous statement:

"I may not agree
with what you say, but will defend to
the death your right to say it!"

Judy
 
Loyaulte me
lie


On Saturday,
January 17, 2015 4:09 PM,
"Pamela Bain pbain@...
[]"
<>
wrote:


 
I read that
Voltaire is now
a hit again.
Along with
copies of
Charlie Hebdo,
his books are
flying off the
shelves.
 
From:
[mailto:
]

Sent:
Saturday,
January 17,
2015 4:02 PM
To:

Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Maybe
the best way
to get to
thetruth isn't
by defending
Richard
 
 
Famous phrases......
Truth is the
Daughter of
Time ;

To the living
we owe
respect, to
the dead only
truth
[Voltaire]
On 17/01/2015 15:03, Pamela Bain
pbain@...
[]
wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four
hundred years
after Richard
III, the
"truth" is a
very elusive
thing.


On Jan 17,
2015, at 7:33
AM, bkohatl@...
[]
<>
wrote:
 
Maybe the best way to show people the truth
isn't by
defending
Richard, which
is a good
cause in its
own right, but
by
investigating
Henry
Stafford, the
Duke of
Buckingham,
and Henry
Tudor. Showing
their real
character and
their actions,
will do more
to defend
Richard than a
defense of
Richard.The
dismissiveness
of those who
favor
Leicester and
the
traditional
history,
including
Prime Minister
Cameron, depends
on people
knowing no
more than
that. Read
Shakespeare's
Richard III
and you "know"
the truth.
We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry
Tudor were
playing each
other, both
only looking
out for
themselves,
treachery for
profit.  A
skill mastered
by the
Stanleys .
 
As long as you don't know the truth you'll
believe the
history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid.  Pat
Garrett was
the Sheriff of
Lincoln, New
Mexico. He
killed Billy
in an ambush,
then wrote
Billy's
biography(with
the help of a
ghost writer).
He said that
Billy killed
21 men by his
21st birthday.
That is the
story everyone
knows. That
fact alone
makes him out
to be
incredibly
evil. Not any
truth in it.
And the lies
start with the
first fact in
his book,
The
Authentic Life
of Billy, the
Kid, The Noted
Desperado of
the Southwest
 
Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born
November 23,
1859. Funny
thing that
date was the
birthday of
Garrett's
ghost writer,
Sheriff Ash
Upson. Almost
all of Billy's
friends said
that Billy was
born in 1861. 
Garrett said
1859, many
historians
believe so
that he could
say that Billy
killed 21 men
in his 21
years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never
killed 21
people. He
probably
"only" killed
nine.  But
that is where
the story gets
interesting.
 
The first was the village blacksmith in Bonita
, Arizona ,
Billy was a
sixteen-year-old,
125 lb.
orphan. The
town
blacksmith,
Windy Cahill,
was the town
bully at over
six feet and
200+ lbs.  He
was the
strongest man
in town. He
didn't like
"the kid" 
from the
beginning and
would beat the
hell out of
him every
chance he got
using any
pretext. At
some point
Billy saved
his money and
bought himself
an equalizer.
We won't know
what made this
time
different,
probably
calling Billy
a
"son-of-a-bitch"
was the last
straw. Billy
was Irish and
loved his late
mother. After
a few minutes
of getting
beaten, Billy
was able to
work his hand
free and
grabbed his
gun and shot
Windy dead.
Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting
all the time,
he would forego
buying  food
to buy
bullets. He
got  to be so
good that
people said he
was a dead
shot, with
lightening
reaction time.
Only a fool
would
challenge him.
Which brings
up the second
shooting, a
drunken cowboy
said that he
was going to
kill Billy the
Kid.
Unfortunately
17-year-old
Billy was in
the bar when
he said it.
Billy tried to
discourage the
guy. All the
witnesses
agreed, Billy
didn't want to
hurt the
guy, unfortunately
the situation
spun out of
control. When
you go looking
for trouble,
you usually
find it. The
drunk pulled
his gun and
Billy, like
Wild Bill
Hickok, was
100 times
faster.
 
How many people know that Billy McCarty was
actually a
legally
deputized
officer of the
law. The
Sheriff of
Lincoln, New
Mexico
murdered
Billy's
employer and
friend John
Tunstall. The
local Justice
of the Peace
swore Billy
and his
fellow Tunstall ranch
hands as
officers of
the law to
arrest the
sheriff. That
is how the
Lincoln County
War started.
Billy would later say of John Tunstall,  Tunstall was one of the only men that treated
him like he
was "free-born
and white." 
Billy killed 5
of the 200 men
who died
during the
Lincoln County
War, but
nobody wanted
to get in a
gun battle
with Billy,
because they
knew that they
would lose.
Billy actually
was one of the
last men
standing and
initiated a
peace
agreement to
end the "War".
Then he was
offered a
pardon by the
Governor if he
would testify
before the
grand jury
investigating
the fighting.
Billy turned
himself in and
testified. The
Governor broke
his word and
Billy was
tried and
sentenced to
death for
shooting
Sheriff Brady.
Within two
weeks of his
hanging Billy
escaped,
shooting two
deputies, one
of whom had
been one of
the men who
murdered John
Tunstall in
cold blood.
One western historian put it best, Billy had
the fault of
many young men
and boys, he
wasn't
fighting for
himself he was
fighting for
the dead,
trying to give
them peace and
justice.
 
My only point is that almost no one knows the
truth about
Billy, that is
why so easy to
believe
"history". 
But the truth
is something
quite
different. And
it makes Billy
sound much
better. We've
all seen the
picture of
Billy while he
was on the run
in 1881, when
"he was rode
hard and put
away wet".
Well I have
the story and
picture of
Billy when he
was all
cleaned up on
my blog:
Down the road
less
traveled..:
The one thing
Billy the Kid
never got in
life, was
Justice
 
 
 
Down
(Message over 64 KB, truncated)

Paul, I stand corrected. Last time I quoted that line, I was dressed-down by a guy who acted like an authority. But as we know, "acting" and "being" are very different cups of tea.Judy Loyaulte me lie On Sunday, January 18, 2015 8:45 AM, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:
Voltaire himself said it, hence the surge in interest in his works.
As for Henry Stafford, I spent an entire summer trying to track him
down, eventually giving up. He is a very difficult man to pin down.
I handed my work over to the American branch who I think published
it on the website, or in their magazine.
Paul

On 17/01/2015 22:28, Judy Thomson
judygerard.thomson@... [] wrote:
And
very interesting about Billy the Kid.

I totally agree
that no one has thoroughly explored Henry Stafford.

To combine both these subjects,
metaphorically, we just might find a "smoking gun"
that's been there all along, but gone unnoticed
until...? A project for Somebody.

Judy
Loyaulte me lie




On
Saturday, January 17, 2015 4:21 PM, Judy
Thomson <judygerard.thomson@...>
wrote:


Although it's my
understanding, someone *other* than
Voltaire, himself (like his
Biographer, maybe?) actually made the
very famous statement:

"I may not agree
with what you say, but will defend to
the death your right to say it!"

Judy
Loyaulte me
lie


On Saturday,
January 17, 2015 4:09 PM,
"Pamela Bain pbain@...
[]"
<>
wrote:


I read that
Voltaire is now
a hit again.
Along with
copies of
Charlie Hebdo,
his books are
flying off the
shelves.
From:
[mailto:
]

Sent:
Saturday,
January 17,
2015 4:02 PM
To:

Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Maybe
the best way
to get to
thetruth isn't
by defending
Richard
Famous phrases......
Truth is the
Daughter of
Time ;

To the living
we owe
respect, to
the dead only
truth
[Voltaire]
On 17/01/2015 15:03, Pamela Bain
pbain@...
[]
wrote:
That is so very interesting, and even four
hundred years
after Richard
III, the
"truth" is a
very elusive
thing.


On Jan 17,
2015, at 7:33
AM, bkohatl@...
[]
<>
wrote:
Maybe the best way to show people the truth
isn't by
defending
Richard, which
is a good
cause in its
own right, but
by
investigating
Henry
Stafford, the
Duke of
Buckingham,
and Henry
Tudor. Showing
their real
character and
their actions,
will do more
to defend
Richard than a
defense of
Richard.The
dismissiveness
of those who
favor
Leicester and
the
traditional
history,
including
Prime Minister
Cameron, depends
on people
knowing no
more than
that. Read
Shakespeare's
Richard III
and you "know"
the truth.
We need to show that Henry Stafford and Henry
Tudor were
playing each
other, both
only looking
out for
themselves,
treachery for
profit. A
skill mastered
by the
Stanleys .
As long as you don't know the truth you'll
believe the
history books:
I'll give you an example, Billy the Kid. Pat
Garrett was
the Sheriff of
Lincoln, New
Mexico. He
killed Billy
in an ambush,
then wrote
Billy's
biography(with
the help of a
ghost writer).
He said that
Billy killed
21 men by his
21st birthday.
That is the
story everyone
knows. That
fact alone
makes him out
to be
incredibly
evil. Not any
truth in it.
And the lies
start with the
first fact in
his book,
The
Authentic Life
of Billy, the
Kid, The Noted
Desperado of
the Southwest
Pat's ghost writer said that Billy was born
November 23,
1859. Funny
thing that
date was the
birthday of
Garrett's
ghost writer,
Sheriff Ash
Upson. Almost
all of Billy's
friends said
that Billy was
born in 1861.
Garrett said
1859, many
historians
believe so
that he could
say that Billy
killed 21 men
in his 21
years
Well, what is the truth? Billy McCarty never
killed 21
people. He
probably
"only" killed
nine. But
that is where
the story gets
interesting.
The first was the village blacksmith in Bonita
, Arizona ,
Billy was a
sixteen-year-old,
125 lb.
orphan. The
town
blacksmith,
Windy Cahill,
was the town
bully at over
six feet and
200+ lbs. He
was the
strongest man
in town. He
didn't like
"the kid"
from the
beginning and
would beat the
hell out of
him every
chance he got
using any
pretext. At
some point
Billy saved
his money and
bought himself
an equalizer.
We won't know
what made this
time
different,
probably
calling Billy
a
"son-of-a-bitch"
was the last
straw. Billy
was Irish and
loved his late
mother. After
a few minutes
of getting
beaten, Billy
was able to
work his hand
free and
grabbed his
gun and shot
Windy dead.
Everyone says that Billy practiced shooting
all the time,
he would forego
buying food
to buy
bullets. He
got to be so
good that
people said he
was a dead
shot, with
lightening
reaction time.
Only a fool
would
challenge him.
Which brings
up the second
shooting, a
drunken cowboy
said that he
was going to
kill Billy the
Kid.
Unfortunately
17-year-old
Billy was in
the bar when
he said it.
Billy tried to
discourage the
guy. All the
witnesses
agreed, Billy
didn't want to
hurt the
guy, unfortunately
the situation
spun out of
control. When
you go looking
for trouble,
you usually
find it. The
drunk pulled
his gun and
Billy, like
Wild Bill
Hickok, was
100 times
faster.
How many people know that Billy McCarty was
actually a
legally
deputized
officer of the
law. The
Sheriff of
Lincoln, New
Mexico
murdered
Billy's
employer and
friend John
Tunstall. The
local Justice
of the Peace
swore Billy
and his
fellow Tunstall ranch
hands as
officers of
the law to
arrest the
sheriff. That
is how the
Lincoln County
War started.
Billy would later say of John Tunstall, Tunstall was one of the only men that treated
him like he
was "free-born
and white."
Billy killed 5
of the 200 men
who died
during the
Lincoln County
War, but
nobody wanted
to get in a
gun battle
with Billy,
because they
knew that they
would lose.
Billy actually
was one of the
last men
standing and
initiated a
peace
agreement to
end the "War".
Then he was
offered a
pardon by the
Governor if he
would testify
before the
grand jury
investigating
the fighting.
Billy turned
himself in and
testified. The
Governor broke
his word and
Billy was
tried and
sentenced to
death for
shooting
Sheriff Brady.
Within two
weeks of his
hanging Billy
escaped,
shooting two
deputies, one
of whom had
been one of
the men who
murdered John
Tunstall in
cold blood.
One western historian put it best, Billy had
the fault of
many young men
and boys, he
wasn't
fighting for
himself he was
fighting for
the dead,
trying to give
them peace and
justice.
My only point is that almost no one knows the
truth about
Billy, that is
why so easy to
believe
"history".
But the truth
is something
quite
different. And
it makes Billy
sound much
better. We've
all seen the
picture of
Billy while he
was on the run
in 1881, when
"he was rode
hard and put
away wet".
Well I have
the story and
picture of
Billy when he
was all
cleaned up on
my blog:
Down the road
less
traveled..:
The one thing
Billy the Kid
never got in
life, was
Justice
Down
the road less
traveled..:
The one thing
Billy the K...
Billy the Kid was a good Kid Many People
think that
Billy was
illiterate,
they are 100%
wrong.
View
on briankeithohara.blogs...
Preview
by Yahoo

Hilary wrote :"I agree, we shouldn't be defending Richard; that smacks of the inference that he was guilty of something and, dare I say, that we are loonies or fanatics."
Carol responds:I can't agree. Yes, we should explore the truth about the fate of the "Princes" and the character of everyone involved, but if we and other Ricardians don't (calmly and reasonably) correct factual errors and point out the frailty of assumptions about Richard, they will continue to be perpetuated.Carol

I agree entirely with correcting factual errors about everyone and everything concerned - after all real history is about truth. I think we're saying virtually the same thing Carol. It's the occasional gusher without evidence who doesn't help, but there aren't so many of those these days. H From: "justcarol67@... []" <> To: Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2015, 2:53 Subject: Re: Maybe the best way to get to the truth isn't by defending Richard
Hilary wrote :"I agree, we shouldn't be defending Richard; that smacks of the inference that he was guilty of something and, dare I say, that we are loonies or fanatics."
Carol responds:I can't agree. Yes, we should explore the truth about the fate of the "Princes" and the character of everyone involved, but if we and other Ricardians don't (calmly and reasonably) correct factual errors and point out the frailty of assumptions about Richard, they will continue to be perpetuated.Carol