David Baldwin's Latest Book

David Baldwin has a new book coming out in May suggesting Henry VIII considered marrying a seventh wife, while still married to Katherine Parr. I have heard of Katherine Willoughby and that there were some difficulties with Katherine Parr, but I haven't come across this theory. Does anyone know if there is any substance to this? It sounds like an interesting read and Baldwin is always engaging, but I wonder if it is just speculation without substance like the book about Richard of York, especially given the enthusiastic endorsement of those paragons of historical accuracy, Philippa Gregory and Alison Weir.

Nico

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Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
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Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul

On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.   Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?'  It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier.  H 
From: "maryfriend@... []" <>
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  Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
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Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
From: "maryfriend@... []" <>
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book    

Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?   The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H   From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <>
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.   Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?'  It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier.  H   From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.   Mary  

 

I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

I just did a search on him, and I actually have seen him in movies. He is very accomplished!

On Feb 22, 2015, at 12:49 PM, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] <> wrote:

I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

Gosh, I wish I had seen him in anything!



On Feb 22, 2015, at 12:49 PM, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] <> wrote:

I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did  both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book    

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book     Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?   The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H   From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.   Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?'  It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier.  H   From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.   Mary  

 

Paul, again, I am impressed!



On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H
From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Paul, again, I am impressed!





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:)  H 
From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

  Paul, again, I am impressed! 





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

  The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did  both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book     Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book     Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?   The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H   From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.   Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?'  It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier.  H   From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.   Mary  

 

I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad.
Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma. Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.
Nico


On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:


I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H
From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Paul, again, I am impressed!





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable episodes!:) Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd write many poems to Claire Foy. I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H
From: "Nicholas Brown nico11238@... []" <>
To: "" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad.
Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma. Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.
Nico


On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:


I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H
From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Paul, again, I am impressed!





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary

Nico, and others who voice similar complaints,
I have no idea what some viewers are seeing, maybe they need someone to come in a reset their television sets, but I have never had any problem seeing, or hearing, things others have complained about! Mind you my latest set is a 4K 58 inches one, perfect for my beloved movies.
I agree about Charlotte Rampling. First time I worked with Bernard Hepton was the film version of the tv Henry in which she played Anne to Keith Michell's Henry, still the most physically accurate imo. Henry that is.
Paul


On 23/02/2015 15:12, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable episodes!:)   Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd write many poems to Claire Foy.   I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H
From: "Nicholas Brown nico11238@... []" <>
To: "" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

  I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it.  I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time.  It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring.  Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.'  There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms.  I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad. 
Damien Lewis is great.  I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn.  She's average looking with a horrible personality.  She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.  No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that!  Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma.  Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that.  Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.
Nico


On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:


  I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:)  H 
From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

  Paul, again, I am impressed! 





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

  The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did  both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book     Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=   From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book     Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?   The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H   From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
    Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.   Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?'  It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier.  H   From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:


(Message over 64 KB, truncated)

Oh my, Charlotte Rampling is a stunning lady and an accomplished actress. It is so awful to see actresses, and now actors, getting nipped and tucked. They look like wax figurines. I think those who accept their years look much better!

From: [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 1:23 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Nico, and others who voice similar complaints,
I have no idea what some viewers are seeing, maybe they need someone to come in a reset their television sets, but I have never had any problem seeing, or hearing, things others have complained about! Mind you my latest set is a 4K 58 inches one, perfect for my beloved movies.
I agree about Charlotte Rampling. First time I worked with Bernard Hepton was the film version of the tv Henry in which she played Anne to Keith Michell's Henry, still the most physically accurate imo. Henry that is.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 15:12, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:

Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable episodes!:)

Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd write many poems to Claire Foy.

I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H

From: "Nicholas Brown nico11238@... []" <>
To: "" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad.

Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma. Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.

Nico

On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:

I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:

Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H

From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Paul, again, I am impressed!

On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:

I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=

From: mailto:

Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote:

Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=

From: mailto:

Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?

The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H

From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul

On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote:

Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.

Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H

From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book

Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.

Mary

Hillary, I do agree the sets are gorgeous, and I like Mark Rylance as Cromwell. His sensitive performance is quite a departure from the usual. I had always imagined Cromwell to be creepy like Donald Pleasance in Henry VIII and His Six Wives. James Frain was good in The Tudors too.
Nico

On Monday, 23 February 2015, 19:58, "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <> wrote:


Oh my, Charlotte Rampling is a stunning lady and an accomplished actress. It is so awful to see actresses, and now actors, getting nipped and tucked. They look like wax figurines. I think those who accept their years look much better! From: [mailto:]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 1:23 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Nico, and others who voice similar complaints,
I have no idea what some viewers are seeing, maybe they need someone to come in a reset their television sets, but I have never had any problem seeing, or hearing, things others have complained about! Mind you my latest set is a 4K 58 inches one, perfect for my beloved movies.
I agree about Charlotte Rampling. First time I worked with Bernard Hepton was the film version of the tv Henry in which she played Anne to Keith Michell's Henry, still the most physically accurate imo. Henry that is.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 15:12, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote: Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable episodes!:) Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd write many poems to Claire Foy. I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H From: "Nicholas Brown nico11238@... []" <>
To: "" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad. Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma. Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it. Nico On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote: I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard in it though.
Paul On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote: Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <>
To: "<>" <>
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Paul, again, I am impressed!


On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... [] <> wrote: The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote: I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@... [] wrote: Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^= From: mailto: Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM To: Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" mailto:
To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@... [] wrote: Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: mailto:maryfriend@...[] mailto:
To:
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment. Mary