David Baldwin's Latest Book

David Baldwin has a new book coming out in May suggesting Henry VIII considered marrying a seventh wife, while still married to Katherine Parr. I have heard of Katherine Willoughby and that there were some difficulties with Katherine Parr, but I haven't come across this theory. Does anyone know if there is any substance to this? It sounds like an interesting read and Baldwin is always engaging, but I wonder if it is just speculation without substance like the book about Richard of York, especially given the enthusiastic endorsement of those paragons of historical accuracy, Philippa Gregory and Alison Weir. NicoHenry VIII almost had a SEVENTH wife, new book claims Henry VIII almost had a SEVENTH wife, new book claimsHENRY VIII almost had a SEVENTH wife, a shocking new book has claimed.View on www.express.co.ukPreview by Yahoo Henry VIII's Last Love: The Extraordinary Life of Katherine Willoughby, Lady-in-Waiting to the Tudors: Amazon.co.uk: David Baldwin: 9781445641041: Books Henry VIII's Last Love: The Extraordinary Life of Kather...Buy Henry VIII's Last Love: The Extraordinary Life of Katherine Willoughby, Lady-in-Waiting to the Tudors by David Baldwin (ISBN: 9781445641041) fr...View on www.amazon.co.ukPreview by Yahoo

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Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.Mary

Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians. Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H From: "maryfriend@... []" <> To: Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04 Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.Mary

Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR
instead of Crom!
Paul

On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of
the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a
far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who
have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than
'proper' historians.
 
Re WH, I
can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being
reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at
times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can
hear him now with his arm round Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll
invade Scotland for me, won't you?'  It can have been no easy
thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a
courtier.  H 

From:
"maryfriend@... []"
<>
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject:
Re: David Baldwin's Latest
Book

 
Loved
the paragons of historical accuracy comment.

Mary

Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser? The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> To: Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29 Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR
instead of Crom!
Paul

On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of
the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a
far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who
have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than
'proper' historians.
Re WH, I
can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being
reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at
times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can
hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll
invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy
thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a
courtier. H

From:
"maryfriend@... []"
<>
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject:
Re: David Baldwin's Latest
Book

Loved
the paragons of historical accuracy comment.

Mary

Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been
mesmerised. =^..^=
From: mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest
Book

Yes, most are not fat enough
(though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that
lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect
that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in
one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a
loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will
always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
<>To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February
2015, 14:29Subject: Re:
Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how
terrible the casting is!Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait
made over to look like MR instead of Crom!Paul

On
22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...
[] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better
historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now
being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't
watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both
so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and
manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on
Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no
easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a
courtier. H
From: mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:To:
Sent: Saturday,
21 February 2015, 22:04Subject: Re:
David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of
historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him
about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and
I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
 
From: mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re:
David Baldwin's Latest Book
 
 


Yes,
most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at
this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that
lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More
something to the effect that however they treat him
he's already telling a load of lies about them in one
of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my
house was having a loud conversation at that point.
Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
 
The
only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he
could have been the man re-incarnated. H
 
From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
<>
To:

Sent:
Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject:
Re: Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Can't
watch WH without thinking how
terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous
portrait made over to look like MR
instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...
[] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators on Wolf Hall said
that Philippa Gregory was a
far better historian!!
Frightening thought that these
folk who have knuckled in are
now being treated with more
respect than 'proper'
historians.
 
Re WH, I can't watch
Damien Lewis's magnificent
Henry without being reminded
of Edward - both so similar,
selfish, childish, at times
cruel, but so, so charismatic
and manipulative. You can hear
him now with his arm round
Richard  'Go on Dickon, you'll
invade Scotland for me, won't
you?'  It can have been no
easy thing being a brother to
such a man. It was bad enough
being a courtier.  H
 
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21 February
2015, 22:04
Subject:
[Richard III Society
Forum] Re: David
Baldwin's Latest Book
 
 
Loved
the paragons
of historical
accuracy
comment.
 
Mary
 


 

I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he
did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
From: mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest
Book
Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming
Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.Still with us, glad to
say.Paul
On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin' sandramachin@...
[] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been
mesmerised. =^..^=
From: mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book
Yes, most are not fat enough
(though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that
lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect
that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in
one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a
loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will
always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
From: "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@...
[]" mailto:To:
Sent: Sunday, 22 February
2015, 14:29Subject: Re:
Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how
terrible the casting is!Lovely tot see Holbein's famous
portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!Paul

On
22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...
[] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better
historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now
being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't
watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward -
both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic
and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go
on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been
no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a
courtier. H
From: mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:To:
Sent: Saturday,
21 February 2015, 22:04Subject:
Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of
historical accuracy comment.
Mary

I just did a search on him, and I actually have seen him in movies. He is very accomplished!

On Feb 22, 2015, at 12:49 PM, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] <> wrote:


I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul


On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they
treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect
than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear
him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Gosh, I wish I had seen him in anything!



On Feb 22, 2015, at 12:49 PM, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] <> wrote:


I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul


On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they
treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect
than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear
him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many
spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original
version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did  both
a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to
boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always
liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
 
From: mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re:
David Baldwin's Latest Book
 
 
Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation
with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he
was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul


On 22/02/2015 16:14,
'SandraMachin' sandramachin@...
[] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football
results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
 
From: mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015
3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Richard III Society
Forum] Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
 
 
Yes, most are not fat enough
(though Henry was thinner at this point) but
I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit
tucked in there where Cromwell says to More
something to the effect that however they
treat him he's already telling a load of
lies about them in one of his 'plays' -
can't quote accurately, someone in my house
was having a loud conversation at that
point. Could Mantel be a Richard
sympathiser?
 
The only Cranmer for me will
always be Bernard Hepton - he could have
been the man re-incarnated. H
 
From:
"Paul Trevor Bale bale475@...
[]" mailto:
To:

Sent:
Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject:
Re: Re: David
Baldwin's Latest Book
 
 
Can't
watch WH without thinking
how terrible the casting
is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's
famous portrait made over
to look like MR instead of
Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...
[]
wrote:
Yes, one
of the commentators
on Wolf Hall said
that Philippa
Gregory was a far
better historian!!
Frightening thought
that these folk who
have knuckled in are
now being treated
with more respect
than 'proper'
historians.
 
Re WH, I
can't watch Damien
Lewis's magnificent
Henry without being
reminded of Edward -
both so similar,
selfish, childish,
at times cruel, but
so, so charismatic
and manipulative.
You can hear him now
with his arm round
Richard  'Go on
Dickon, you'll
invade Scotland for
me, won't you?'  It
can have been no
easy thing being a
brother to such a
man. It was bad
enough being a
courtier.  H
 
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21
February 2015,
22:04
Subject:
[Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Loved
the paragons
of historical
accuracy
comment.
 
Mary
 


 

Paul, again, I am impressed!



On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent
to boot.
Paul


On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul


On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they
treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect
than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear
him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H From: "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <> To: "<>" <> Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07 Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Paul, again, I am impressed!



On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... [] <> wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent
to boot.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they
treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect
than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear
him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2015, 22:04
Subject: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary

I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint
dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard
in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did
rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I
confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:)  H 

From: "Pamela
Bain pbain@... []"
<>
To:
"<>"
<>
Sent:
Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject:
Re: Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book

 
Paul,
again, I am impressed! 





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@...
[] <>
wrote:

 
The absolute reincarnation of
Cranmer, he then went on to do many
spy masters and catchers, and the
such. He was in the original version
of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec
Guiness. I did  both a spy and a
historical movie with him. Class act,
and a gent to boot.
Paul

On
22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long
time now, Paul. I always liked
whatever he did. A touch of true
class. =^..^=
 
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday,
February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re:
[Richard III Society
Forum] Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Worked with Bernard.
Lovely man. Had long
conversation with him about
filming Olivier's Richard,
on which he was horse
master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On
22/02/2015 16:14,
'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[]
wrote:
Bernard Hepton
could have read the
football results and
I've have been
mesmerised. =^..^=
 
From:
mailto:
Sent:
Sunday, February
22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject:
Re: [Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's Latest
Book
 
 
Yes,
most are not fat
enough (though
Henry was
thinner at this
point) but I did
like Lesser's
More and that
lovely bit
tucked in there
where Cromwell
says to More
something to the
effect that
however they
treat him he's
already telling
a load of lies
about them in
one of his
'plays' - can't
quote
accurately,
someone in my
house was having
a loud
conversation at
that point.
Could Mantel be
a Richard
sympathiser?
 
The
only Cranmer for
me will always
be Bernard
Hepton - he
could have been
the man
re-incarnated. H
 
From:
"Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Sunday, 22
February 2015,
14:29
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Can't
watch WH
without
thinking how
terrible the
casting is!
Lovely tot see
Holbein's
famous
portrait made
over to look
like MR
instead of
Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators
on Wolf Hall
said that
Philippa
Gregory was a
far better
historian!!
Frightening
thought that
these folk who
have knuckled
in are now
being treated
with more
respect than
'proper'
historians.
 
Re WH, I can't watch
Damien Lewis's
magnificent
Henry without
being reminded
of Edward -
both so
similar,
selfish,
childish, at
times cruel,
but so, so
charismatic
and
manipulative.
You can hear
him now with
his arm round
Richard  'Go
on Dickon,
you'll invade
Scotland for
me, won't
you?'  It can
have been no
easy thing
being a
brother to
such a man. It
was bad enough
being a
courtier.  H
 
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21
February 2015,
22:04
Subject:
[Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Loved
the paragons
of historical
accuracy
comment.
 
Mary
 


 

I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad. Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma. Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.Nico On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:
I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint
dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard
in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did
rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I
confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H

From: "Pamela
Bain pbain@... []"
<>
To:
"<>"
<>
Sent:
Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject:
Re: Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book

Paul,
again, I am impressed!





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@...
[] <>
wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of
Cranmer, he then went on to do many
spy masters and catchers, and the
such. He was in the original version
of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec
Guiness. I did both a spy and a
historical movie with him. Class act,
and a gent to boot.
Paul

On
22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long
time now, Paul. I always liked
whatever he did. A touch of true
class. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday,
February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re:
[Richard III Society
Forum] Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book
Worked with Bernard.
Lovely man. Had long
conversation with him about
filming Olivier's Richard,
on which he was horse
master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On
22/02/2015 16:14,
'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[]
wrote:
Bernard Hepton
could have read the
football results and
I've have been
mesmerised. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent:
Sunday, February
22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject:
Re: [Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's Latest
Book
Yes,
most are not fat
enough (though
Henry was
thinner at this
point) but I did
like Lesser's
More and that
lovely bit
tucked in there
where Cromwell
says to More
something to the
effect that
however they
treat him he's
already telling
a load of lies
about them in
one of his
'plays' - can't
quote
accurately,
someone in my
house was having
a loud
conversation at
that point.
Could Mantel be
a Richard
sympathiser?
The
only Cranmer for
me will always
be Bernard
Hepton - he
could have been
the man
re-incarnated. H
From:
"Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Sunday, 22
February 2015,
14:29
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
Can't
watch WH
without
thinking how
terrible the
casting is!
Lovely tot see
Holbein's
famous
portrait made
over to look
like MR
instead of
Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators
on Wolf Hall
said that
Philippa
Gregory was a
far better
historian!!
Frightening
thought that
these folk who
have knuckled
in are now
being treated
with more
respect than
'proper'
historians.
Re WH, I can't watch
Damien Lewis's
magnificent
Henry without
being reminded
of Edward -
both so
similar,
selfish,
childish, at
times cruel,
but so, so
charismatic
and
manipulative.
You can hear
him now with
his arm round
Richard 'Go
on Dickon,
you'll invade
Scotland for
me, won't
you?' It can
have been no
easy thing
being a
brother to
such a man. It
was bad enough
being a
courtier. H
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21
February 2015,
22:04
Subject:
[Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
Loved
the paragons
of historical
accuracy
comment.
Mary

Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable episodes!:) Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd write many poems to Claire Foy. I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H From: "Nicholas Brown nico11238@... []" <> To: "" <> Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41 Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book
I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad. Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma. Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.Nico On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale bale475@... []" <> wrote:
I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint
dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing Bernard
in it though.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did
rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I
confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H

From: "Pamela
Bain pbain@... []"
<>
To:
"<>"
<>
Sent:
Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject:
Re: Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book

Paul,
again, I am impressed!





On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@...
[] <>
wrote:

The absolute reincarnation of
Cranmer, he then went on to do many
spy masters and catchers, and the
such. He was in the original version
of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec
Guiness. I did both a spy and a
historical movie with him. Class act,
and a gent to boot.
Paul

On
22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long
time now, Paul. I always liked
whatever he did. A touch of true
class. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday,
February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject: Re:
[Richard III Society
Forum] Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book
Worked with Bernard.
Lovely man. Had long
conversation with him about
filming Olivier's Richard,
on which he was horse
master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul

On
22/02/2015 16:14,
'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[]
wrote:
Bernard Hepton
could have read the
football results and
I've have been
mesmerised. =^..^=
From:
mailto:
Sent:
Sunday, February
22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject:
Re: [Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's Latest
Book
Yes,
most are not fat
enough (though
Henry was
thinner at this
point) but I did
like Lesser's
More and that
lovely bit
tucked in there
where Cromwell
says to More
something to the
effect that
however they
treat him he's
already telling
a load of lies
about them in
one of his
'plays' - can't
quote
accurately,
someone in my
house was having
a loud
conversation at
that point.
Could Mantel be
a Richard
sympathiser?
The
only Cranmer for
me will always
be Bernard
Hepton - he
could have been
the man
re-incarnated. H
From:
"Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Sunday, 22
February 2015,
14:29
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
Can't
watch WH
without
thinking how
terrible the
casting is!
Lovely tot see
Holbein's
famous
portrait made
over to look
like MR
instead of
Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators
on Wolf Hall
said that
Philippa
Gregory was a
far better
historian!!
Frightening
thought that
these folk who
have knuckled
in are now
being treated
with more
respect than
'proper'
historians.
Re WH, I can't watch
Damien Lewis's
magnificent
Henry without
being reminded
of Edward -
both so
similar,
selfish,
childish, at
times cruel,
but so, so
charismatic
and
manipulative.
You can hear
him now with
his arm round
Richard 'Go
on Dickon,
you'll invade
Scotland for
me, won't
you?' It can
have been no
easy thing
being a
brother to
such a man. It
was bad enough
being a
courtier. H
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Saturday, 21
February 2015,
22:04
Subject:
[Richard III
Society Forum]
Re: David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
Loved
the paragons
of historical
accuracy
comment.
Mary

Nico, and others who voice similar complaints,
I have no idea what some viewers are seeing, maybe they need someone
to come in a reset their television sets, but I have never had any
problem seeing, or hearing, things others have complained about!
Mind you my latest set is a 4K 58 inches one, perfect for my beloved
movies.
I agree about Charlotte Rampling. First time I worked with Bernard
Hepton was the film version of the tv Henry in which she played Anne
to Keith Michell's Henry, still the most physically accurate imo.
Henry that is.
Paul


On 23/02/2015 15:12, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Paul - he
played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast
of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable
episodes!:)
 
Nico, I
agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with
the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it
relies on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I
think you must have missed those. The book sees it through
Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she
was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong
actress. Like you I've seen lots and lots of ABs and the only
one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling -
not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with
the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However
well she acts I don't think they'd write many poems to Claire
Foy.
 
I do like
the way though that some commentators have said that Anton
Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of
Thomas More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H

From: "Nicholas Brown
nico11238@... []"
<>
To:
""
<>
Sent:
Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41
Subject:
Re: Re: David Baldwin's
Latest Book

 
I'm
not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only
seen up to episode 3, because the rest of
the family hated it.  I'll have to catch up
on iplayer when I can find the time.  It is
a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know
a lot about the historical background, so I
can see why they thought it was incredibly
boring.  Whoever wrote the screenplay needs
a lesson in 'show, don't tell.'  There is no
drama, just characters mumbling away in dark
rooms.  I hope that candlelight experiment
is never repeated - I couldn't see what was
going on in some scenes, and my eyesight
isn't that bad. 

Damien
Lewis is great.  I don't know what they were
thinking about with Anne Boleyn.  She's
average looking with a horrible
personality.  She reminds me of Verucca Salt
from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.  No
man would challenge Christendom, putting his
throne and soul at risk over someone like
that!  Anne Boleyn may not have been
conventionally pretty, but she must have had
great sex appeal and real charisma.  Any
actress who plays her needs to reflect
that.  Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and
Charlotte Rampling were more like it.

Nico


On Monday, 23
February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor
Bale bale475@...
[]"
<>
wrote:


 
I watch Midsomer on
occasion as an
alternative to watching
the paint dry, which it
at times resembles!!!
:-) Don't recall seeing
Bernard in it though.
Paul

On
23/02/2015 10:32,
Hilary Jones hjnatdat@...
[]
wrote:
Me
too. Did rather
enjoy him playing
a baddie in
Midsomer Murders -
yes I confess to
watching that. You
have to have some
vices.:)  H 

From:
"Pamela Bain pbain@...
[]"
<>
To:
"<>"
<>

Sent:
Monday, 23
February 2015,
1:07
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book

 
Paul,
again, I am
impressed! 





On Feb 22,
2015, at 3:31
PM, Paul
Trevor Bale
bale475@...
[]
<>
wrote:

 
The
absolute
reincarnation
of Cranmer, he
then went on
to do many spy
masters and
catchers, and
the such. He
was in the
original
version of
Tinker Tailor
Soldier Spy
with Alec
Guiness. I
did  both a
spy and a
historical
movie with
him. Class
act, and a
gent to boot.
Paul

On
22/02/2015
18:47,
'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[]
wrote:
I haven't
seen him in a
long time now,
Paul. I always
liked whatever
he did. A
touch of true
class. =^..^=
 
From:
mailto:
Sent:
Sunday,
February 22,
2015 5:25 PM
To:
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Worked
with Bernard.
Lovely man.
Had long
conversation
with him about
filming
Olivier's
Richard, on
which he was
horse master.
Still with us,
glad to say.
Paul

On
22/02/2015
16:14,
'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@...
[]
wrote:
Bernard
Hepton could
have read the
football
results and
I've have been
mesmerised.
=^..^=
 
From:
mailto:
Sent:
Sunday,
February 22,
2015 3:58 PM
To:
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Yes, most are not fat
enough (though
Henry was
thinner at
this point)
but I did like
Lesser's More
and that
lovely bit
tucked in
there where
Cromwell says
to More
something to
the effect
that however
they treat him
he's already
telling a load
of lies about
them in one of
his 'plays' -
can't quote
accurately,
someone in my
house was
having a loud
conversation
at that point.
Could Mantel
be a Richard
sympathiser?
 
The only Cranmer for
me will always
be Bernard
Hepton - he
could have
been the man
re-incarnated.
H
 
From:
"Paul Trevor
Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent:
Sunday, 22
February 2015,
14:29
Subject:
Re: [Richard
III Society
Forum] Re:
David
Baldwin's
Latest Book
 
 
Can't
watch WH
without
thinking how
terrible the
casting is!
Lovely tot see
Holbein's
famous
portrait made
over to look
like MR
instead of
Crom!
Paul



On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the
commentators
on Wolf Hall
said that
Philippa
Gregory was a
far better
historian!!
Frightening
thought that
these folk who
have knuckled
in are now
being treated
with more
respect than
'proper'
historians.
 
Re WH, I can't watch
Damien Lewis's
magnificent
Henry without
being reminded
of Edward -
both so
similar,
selfish,
childish, at
times cruel,
but so, so
charismatic
and
manipulative.
You can hear
him now with
his arm round
Richard  'Go
on Dickon,
you'll invade
Scotland for
me, won't
you?'  It can
have been no
easy thing
being a
brother to
such a man. It
was bad enough
being a
courtier.  H
 
From:
mailto:maryfriend@...[]
mailto:
(Message over 64 KB, truncated)

Oh my, Charlotte Rampling is a stunning lady and an accomplished actress. It is so awful to see actresses, and now actors, getting nipped and tucked. They look
like wax figurines. I think those who accept their years look much better!


From: [mailto:]

Sent: Monday, February 23, 2015 1:23 PM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book


Nico, and others who voice similar complaints,
I have no idea what some viewers are seeing, maybe they need someone to come in a reset their television sets, but I have never had any problem seeing, or hearing, things others have complained about! Mind you my latest set is a 4K 58 inches one, perfect for
my beloved movies.
I agree about Charlotte Rampling. First time I worked with Bernard Hepton was the film version of the tv Henry in which she played Anne to Keith Michell's Henry, still the most physically accurate imo. Henry that is.
Paul


On 23/02/2015 15:12, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable
episodes!:)

Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies
on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've
seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd
write many poems to Claire Foy.

I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas
More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H

From: "Nicholas Brown
nico11238@... []"
<>
To: ""
<>

Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 14:41
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book



I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find
the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters
mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad.

Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of
Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma.
Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.

Nico

On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
<> wrote:



I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing
Bernard in it though.
Paul
On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H

From: "Pamela Bain
pbain@... []"
<>
To: "<>"
<>

Sent: Monday, 23 February 2015, 1:07
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book



Paul, again, I am impressed!




On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... [] <> wrote:


The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original
version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul
On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=

From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 5:25 PM
To:

Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book



Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul
On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
sandramachin@... [] wrote:
Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=

From:
mailto:
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2015 3:58 PM
To:

Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book



Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there
where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be
a Richard sympathiser?

The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H

From: "Paul Trevor Bale
bale475@... []"
mailto:
To:

Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2015, 14:29
Subject: Re: Re: David Baldwin's Latest Book



Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul

On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
hjnatdat@... [] wrote:
Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk
who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.

Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times
cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H


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Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.

Mary

Hillary, I do agree the sets are gorgeous, and I like Mark Rylance as Cromwell. His sensitive performance is quite a departure from the usual. I had always imagined Cromwell to be creepy like Donald Pleasance in Henry VIII and His Six Wives. James Frain was good in The Tudors too.Nico On Monday, 23 February 2015, 19:58, "Pamela Bain pbain@... []" <> wrote:
Oh my, Charlotte Rampling is a stunning lady and an accomplished actress. It is so awful to see actresses, and now actors, getting nipped and tucked. They look
like wax figurines. I think those who accept their years look much better!
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Nico, and others who voice similar complaints,
I have no idea what some viewers are seeing, maybe they need someone to come in a reset their television sets, but I have never had any problem seeing, or hearing, things others have complained about! Mind you my latest set is a 4K 58 inches one, perfect for
my beloved movies.
I agree about Charlotte Rampling. First time I worked with Bernard Hepton was the film version of the tv Henry in which she played Anne to Keith Michell's Henry, still the most physically accurate imo. Henry that is.
Paul

On 23/02/2015 15:12, Hilary Jones
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Paul - he played a very theatrical director who was bumping off the cast of Amadeus in rather horrible ways - one of the more enjoyable
episodes!:)
Nico, I agree the adaptation is slow, particularly when compared with the stage version, which had much more humour. I think it relies
on MR's eyes. Some of the sets are gorgeous though, I think you must have missed those. The book sees it through Cromwell's eyes and to him AB is a small shrew - I recall she was quite tall in real life. I agree though about the wrong actress. Like you I've
seen lots and lots of ABs and the only one to me who came anywhere near her was Charlotte Rampling - not totally beautiful (and in real life she wasn't) but with the sort of attraction which makes men write poems. However well she acts I don't think they'd
write many poems to Claire Foy.
I do like the way though that some commentators have said that Anton Lesser has at last expunged Schofield's treacly rendering of Thomas
More. we owe him, and Mantel, one for that! H
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I'm not sure to make of Wolf Hall. I have only seen up to episode 3, because the rest of the family hated it. I'll have to catch up on iplayer when I can find
the time. It is a bit slow, and confusing if you don't know a lot about the historical background, so I can see why they thought it was incredibly boring. Whoever wrote the screenplay needs a lesson in 'show, don't tell.' There is no drama, just characters
mumbling away in dark rooms. I hope that candlelight experiment is never repeated - I couldn't see what was going on in some scenes, and my eyesight isn't that bad.
Damien Lewis is great. I don't know what they were thinking about with Anne Boleyn. She's average looking with a horrible personality. She reminds me of
Verucca Salt from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. No man would challenge Christendom, putting his throne and soul at risk over someone like that! Anne Boleyn may not have been conventionally pretty, but she must have had great sex appeal and real charisma.
Any actress who plays her needs to reflect that. Natalie Dormer, Genevieve Bujold and Charlotte Rampling were more like it.
Nico
On Monday, 23 February 2015, 10:58, "Paul Trevor Bale
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I watch Midsomer on occasion as an alternative to watching the paint dry, which it at times resembles!!! :-) Don't recall seeing
Bernard in it though.
Paul
On 23/02/2015 10:32, Hilary Jones
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Me too. Did rather enjoy him playing a baddie in Midsomer Murders - yes I confess to watching that. You have to have some vices.:) H
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Paul, again, I am impressed!


On Feb 22, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Paul Trevor Bale
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The absolute reincarnation of Cranmer, he then went on to do many spy masters and catchers, and the such. He was in the original
version of Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy with Alec Guiness. I did both a spy and a historical movie with him. Class act, and a gent to boot.
Paul
On 22/02/2015 18:47, 'SandraMachin'
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I haven't seen him in a long time now, Paul. I always liked whatever he did. A touch of true class. =^..^=
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Worked with Bernard. Lovely man. Had long conversation with him about filming Olivier's Richard, on which he was horse master.
Still with us, glad to say.
Paul
On 22/02/2015 16:14, 'SandraMachin'
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Bernard Hepton could have read the football results and I've have been mesmerised. =^..^=
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Yes, most are not fat enough (though Henry was thinner at this point) but I did like Lesser's More and that lovely bit tucked in there
where Cromwell says to More something to the effect that however they treat him he's already telling a load of lies about them in one of his 'plays' - can't quote accurately, someone in my house was having a loud conversation at that point. Could Mantel be
a Richard sympathiser?
The only Cranmer for me will always be Bernard Hepton - he could have been the man re-incarnated. H
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Can't watch WH without thinking how terrible the casting is!
Lovely tot see Holbein's famous portrait made over to look like MR instead of Crom!
Paul
On 22/02/2015 10:05, Hilary Jones
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Yes, one of the commentators on Wolf Hall said that Philippa Gregory was a far better historian!! Frightening thought that these folk
who have knuckled in are now being treated with more respect than 'proper' historians.
Re WH, I can't watch Damien Lewis's magnificent Henry without being reminded of Edward - both so similar, selfish, childish, at times
cruel, but so, so charismatic and manipulative. You can hear him now with his arm round Richard 'Go on Dickon, you'll invade Scotland for me, won't you?' It can have been no easy thing being a brother to such a man. It was bad enough being a courtier. H
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Loved the paragons of historical accuracy comment.
Mary