Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: A puzzle

At 10:47 PM 11/15/04 -0000, stephenmlark wrote:
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>--- In , "jonesianr"
><jonesianr@y...> wrote:
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>> They all had sons who didn't succeed them to the throne?
>>
>> --- In , "Stephen Lark"
>> <smlark@t...> wrote:
>> > What does Richard III have in common with these other Kings:
>> Stephen, Edward III, George II?
>> >
>Correct, but I need a little more ....
>
>Stephen

They all had sons who died before they did.

Ed

--- In , Ed Simons
<easimons@c...> wrote:

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> They all had sons who died before they did.
>
> Ed

But so did many other kings...Henry I, Henry II, Edward I, Edward
III, Henry VI, Henry VIII, etc.

Must be more than that.

Katy

Ed is getting warmer but you are right to say that that his criteria applies to many more???!!!
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--- In , Ed Simons
<easimons@c...> wrote:

>
> They all had sons who died before they did.
>
> Ed

But so did many other kings...Henry I, Henry II, Edward I, Edward
III, Henry VI, Henry VIII, etc.

Must be more than that.

Katy




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Their eldest son died before they did, and as a result none of their
children became King (or Queen).

--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
> Ed is getting warmer but you are right to say that that his
criteria applies to many more???!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: A puzzle
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>
> --- In , Ed Simons
> <easimons@c...> wrote:
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> > They all had sons who died before they did.
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> > Ed
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> But so did many other kings...Henry I, Henry II, Edward I, Edward
> III, Henry VI, Henry VIII, etc.
>
> Must be more than that.
>
> Katy
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--- In , "jonesianr"
<jonesianr@y...> wrote:
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> Their eldest son died before they did, and as a result none of
their
> children became King (or Queen).
>
Almost there but what makes these four Kings of England UNIQUE in
that respect? Katy said that there are others whose heirs predeceased
them. Think of Eustace of Blois, Edward the Black Prince, Edward of
Middleham and Frederick.

There is a free copy of the "Stafford Line" in it.

Stephen

> --- In , "Stephen Lark"
> <smlark@t...> wrote:
> > Ed is getting warmer but you are right to say that that his
> criteria applies to many more???!!!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: oregonkaty
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> > Subject: Re: A puzzle
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> > --- In , Ed Simons
> > <easimons@c...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > They all had sons who died before they did.
> > >
> > > Ed
> >
> > But so did many other kings...Henry I, Henry II, Edward I,
Edward
> > III, Henry VI, Henry VIII, etc.
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> > Must be more than that.
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> > Katy
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stephenmlark wrote:
>
> --- In , "jonesianr"
> <jonesianr@y...> wrote:
>
>>Their eldest son died before they did, and as a result none of
>
> their
>
>>children became King (or Queen).
>>
>
> Almost there but what makes these four Kings of England UNIQUE in
> that respect? Katy said that there are others whose heirs predeceased
> them. Think of Eustace of Blois, Edward the Black Prince, Edward of
> Middleham and Frederick.
>
> There is a free copy of the "Stafford Line" in it.

All of the sons were named heir to the throne, and all died before they
could inherit it?

I was about to suggest that all the fathers died within a year of their
sons, but George and Frederick scupper that one.

Hmmm, will have to think more deeply.

Jenny

----- Original Message -----
From: Jennifer Delaney
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2004 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: Re: A puzzle


stephenmlark wrote:
>
> --- In , "jonesianr"
> <jonesianr@y...> wrote:
>
>>Their eldest son died before they did, and as a result none of
>
> their
>
>>children became King (or Queen).
>>
>
> Almost there but what makes these four Kings of England UNIQUE in
> that respect? Katy said that there are others whose heirs predeceased
> them. Think of Eustace of Blois, Edward the Black Prince, Edward of
> Middleham and Frederick.
>
> There is a free copy of the "Stafford Line" in it.

All of the sons were named heir to the throne, and all died before they
could inherit it?

I was about to suggest that all the fathers died within a year of their
sons, but George and Frederick scupper that one.

Hmmm, will have to think more deeply.

Jenny

You are right about the principle - I misremembered the year of Frederick's death (1751 not '59).
Eustace died in 1153 and Stephen in 1154.
The Black Prince died in 1376 and Edward III in 1377.
We all know the next answer.
Contact me privately to arrange your prize!
Stephen.


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