Clarence and the cask

"hic." Pardon me.

oh shut up and drink yer gin :-) - (Fagin in Oliver!)

On Aug 2, 2005, at 14:33, Rhonda wrote:

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Just for clarity's sake, I'm including the link to the National
Portrait Gallery's website; the portrait is owned by the Gallery
though it is not on display.
(http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/portrait.asp?
LinkID=mp03951&rNo=0&role=sit)

The NPG lists the portrat as 'Unknown woman' though it notes the
former attribution to Margaret Pole. Are we really sure it *is*
Margaret?

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As regards the manner of Clarence's death, I'm dredging up an old
memory from a book I read years ago (so cannot attribute, sadly. My
books are in storage).

From what I recall, one historian had theorized that casks of
malmsey were quite large in size and that they were, in fact,
sometimes lopped off lengthwise and used as bathtubs. If this is
accurate, could it possibly be that Clarence died in the bath?

--- In , "meenivettle" <meenivettle@y...> wrote:
>
> The NPG lists the portrat as 'Unknown woman' though it notes the
> former attribution to Margaret Pole. Are we really sure it *is*
> Margaret?
>
As I said in a previous posting the similarity between the portrait of Margaret as an older
woman and in Rous' drawing of Margaret as a young girl in the Rous Roll is uncanny. . I
do believe it is Margaret - what other lady would have chosen to wear the little barrel as a
token on her wrist.
> ---
>
Eileen
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> From what I recall, one historian had theorized that casks of
> malmsey were quite large in size and that they were, in fact,
> sometimes lopped off lengthwise and used as bathtubs. If this is
> accurate, could it possibly be that Clarence died in the bath?

Female followers of St Bernard? Marie Lloyd famous for singing songs
like 'Roll Out The Barrel"?
Sorry, must be the pain killers I'm on!! :-) :-) :-)
Paul

On Aug 2, 2005, at 21:03, eileen wrote:

> what other lady would have chosen to wear the little barrel as a
> token on her wrist.
>

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--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paultrevor@b...>
wrote:
> Female followers of St Bernard? Marie Lloyd famous for singing songs
> like 'Roll Out The Barrel"?
> Sorry, must be the pain killers I'm on!! :-) :-) :-)
> Paul
>
> On Aug 2, 2005, at 21:03, eileen wrote:
>
> > what other lady would have chosen to wear the little barrel as a
> > token on her wrist.
> >
Oh well Paul if your going to choose to be facetious because I am simply suggesting
something that you dont agree with then I am obviously in the wrong forum - Good Bye!

p.s. I know what Marie Lloyd was famous for singing thank you very much, I am a Cockney!
But perhaps thats what the problem is - not educated enough obviously.
Best Wishes Eileen

Oh Come on Eileen! (That's another song now isn't it?)
I thought Cockney's could take a joke!
Or didn't you see the smileys and realise that's what they mean?
You can take a joke now can't you? Oh yes you can! Come one now admit
it! You can! You can! You can! Smile now!
Paul

On Aug 2, 2005, at 22:17, eileen wrote:

> --- In , Paul Trevor Bale
> <paultrevor@b...>
> wrote:
>
>> Female followers of St Bernard? Marie Lloyd famous for singing songs
>> like 'Roll Out The Barrel"?
>> Sorry, must be the pain killers I'm on!! :-) :-) :-)
>> Paul
>>
>> On Aug 2, 2005, at 21:03, eileen wrote:
>>
>>
>>> what other lady would have chosen to wear the little barrel as a
>>> token on her wrist.
>>>
>>>
> Oh well Paul if your going to choose to be facetious because I am
> simply suggesting
> something that you dont agree with then I am obviously in the wrong
> forum - Good Bye!
>
> p.s. I know what Marie Lloyd was famous for singing thank you very
> much, I am a Cockney!
> But perhaps thats what the problem is - not educated enough obviously.
> Best Wishes Eileen
>
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