That Programme!

Henry Tudor no right to the throne. Jasper cast with an unattractive
actor, the York brothers all good lookers.
Then it's crap like "wars known as The Wars of the Roses", Henry VI
was murdered between 11 and 12 o'clock, and only Richard "hatchet
man' was present!
Bollocks!
Sorry but I can't go on any more with this rubbish!
I'm sure you all feel the same.
One less viewer for the rest of the series.
Paul


"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"

Well, personally, I thought it could have been a lot worse.

Starkey actually said some favourable things about Richard – effective
soldier, fair judge. He even conceded that the Woodville marriage
might well have been illegal. Also, like nearly every anti-Richard
historian from Crowland, Rous and Vergil onwards he had to admit
Richard showed courage at Bosworth. I wondered what had come over him.

Talking of Bosworth, I noticed he described the Ambion Hill scenario.
But wasn't it Starkey who popularised the Bosworth was not at Bosworth
theory during the quincentenary? Even though IIRC it was Foss who did
the research into Dadlington.

Another plus, instead of the old-fashioned view that the union of the
Roses ushered in an age of peace, we had Henry VII threatened by
rebellion and turning into a tyrant. Not an uncommon view among
professional historians now, I think, but not usually the slant in
populist history.

I did like Margaret Beaufort being called the mother-in-law from hell.
Also found it funny that she allegedly got rid of Elizabeth Woodville
(although isn't the theory now that Elizabeth W was more pious than
previously thought and she could have retired voluntarily to the
cloister?) Each time they flashed up the portraits I kept thinking how
Henry Tudor looked like his mum.

There were a few howlers. The 3 Yorkist brothers versus Henry VI?
Wasn't it more their dad to begin with? I can't remember if Starkey
covered this in his last series. I know he mentioned Tewkesbury before
because he claimed Edward of Lancaster fought bravely, for which there
is no evidence. The red rose of Lancaster wasn't used either.

Oh, and rather OT but I found it amusing: Richard III was a Brummie.
By which I mean he was from Birmingham. The English one, not the
American one. The attractive actor playing Richard was mentioned in
the Birmingham Evening Mail as a local boy made good. His name was
Nigel Martin Davey, I think.

This has now made me think of the winter of discontent speech done in a
a Brummie accent (a nasal whine with flattened vowels. I can say that
because I'm from Birmingham).

Joanne


--- In , Paul Trevor Bale
<paultrevor@b...> wrote:
> Henry Tudor no right to the throne. Jasper cast with an unattractive
> actor, the York brothers all good lookers.
> Then it's crap like "wars known as The Wars of the Roses", Henry VI
> was murdered between 11 and 12 o'clock, and only Richard "hatchet
> man' was present!
> Bollocks!
> Sorry but I can't go on any more with this rubbish!
> I'm sure you all feel the same.
> One less viewer for the rest of the series.
> Paul
>
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"