Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
2005-10-10 18:39:18
George seems to have been the only executed person who could be buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the "Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
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From: Rhonda
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Subject: Here is a link for "George" portrait
Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
version, but cannot locate it.
worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
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----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
To:
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
Subject: Here is a link for "George" portrait
Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
version, but cannot locate it.
worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
2005-10-10 19:06:16
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
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> George seems to have been the only executed person who could be
buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the
"Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually
sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rhonda
> To:
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Here is a link for "George"
portrait
>
>
> Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
> in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
> version, but cannot locate it.
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
> A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
> figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
> long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
Yikes, Stephen, cannot imagine wanting to reunite a noggin with its
corpse after being on display for a time. I suppose this "priviledge"
was reserved for VIP's?
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<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> George seems to have been the only executed person who could be
buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the
"Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually
sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rhonda
> To:
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Here is a link for "George"
portrait
>
>
> Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
> in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
> version, but cannot locate it.
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
> A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
> figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
> long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
Yikes, Stephen, cannot imagine wanting to reunite a noggin with its
corpse after being on display for a time. I suppose this "priviledge"
was reserved for VIP's?
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
2005-10-10 19:11:40
In a message dated 10/10/2005 18:55:03 GMT Daylight Time,
metrlt@... writes:
worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
Gosh, I always believed George to be a head turner like Edward but this
portrait makes him look a real bonny bugger - not.
metrlt@... writes:
worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
Gosh, I always believed George to be a head turner like Edward but this
portrait makes him look a real bonny bugger - not.
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
2005-10-10 19:23:57
Thinking only of treason:
Would male commoners like John of Gloucester have their intestines sewn back in and their "privy members" re-attached? Just possible.
Female commoners like Margaret Bulmer (Thomas Stafford's aunt) could not be un-burnt. However, the Colchester gentlemen Lucas and Lisle were shot which may not have necessitated much in the way of repair work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
To:
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Here is a link for "George" portrait
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> George seems to have been the only executed person who could be
buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the
"Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually
sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rhonda
> To:
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Here is a link for "George"
portrait
>
>
> Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
> in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
> version, but cannot locate it.
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
> A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
> figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
> long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
Yikes, Stephen, cannot imagine wanting to reunite a noggin with its
corpse after being on display for a time. I suppose this "priviledge"
was reserved for VIP's?
>
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Would male commoners like John of Gloucester have their intestines sewn back in and their "privy members" re-attached? Just possible.
Female commoners like Margaret Bulmer (Thomas Stafford's aunt) could not be un-burnt. However, the Colchester gentlemen Lucas and Lisle were shot which may not have necessitated much in the way of repair work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
To:
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Here is a link for "George" portrait
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> George seems to have been the only executed person who could be
buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the
"Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually
sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rhonda
> To:
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Here is a link for "George"
portrait
>
>
> Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
> in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
> version, but cannot locate it.
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
> A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
> figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
> long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
Yikes, Stephen, cannot imagine wanting to reunite a noggin with its
corpse after being on display for a time. I suppose this "priviledge"
was reserved for VIP's?
>
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
2005-10-10 20:52:01
--- In , Coralnelson11@a... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 10/10/2005 18:55:03 GMT Daylight Time,
> metrlt@s... writes:
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
>
>
>
> Gosh, I always believed George to be a head turner like Edward but
this
> portrait makes him look a real bonny bugger - not.
>
>
>
Well, if this portrait does indeed represent our George, it was
certainly not painted during his lifetime.We were just wondering who
had it painted and why.Perhaps Margaret, his daughter, had it done to
remind herself of her royal blood, or one of her children commissined
it.The armour is of a later style, somewhat Spanish, and we know that
Lady Margaret was friends with Catherine of Aragon, and was very close
with the princess Mary. My artist friend tells me that court painters
would use the features of living relatives, a kind of amlagam, in
order to reconstruct and paint a deceased one.I thought the painting
also bears a resemblance to the drawing of George in the Rous Roll.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 10/10/2005 18:55:03 GMT Daylight Time,
> metrlt@s... writes:
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
>
>
>
> Gosh, I always believed George to be a head turner like Edward but
this
> portrait makes him look a real bonny bugger - not.
>
>
>
Well, if this portrait does indeed represent our George, it was
certainly not painted during his lifetime.We were just wondering who
had it painted and why.Perhaps Margaret, his daughter, had it done to
remind herself of her royal blood, or one of her children commissined
it.The armour is of a later style, somewhat Spanish, and we know that
Lady Margaret was friends with Catherine of Aragon, and was very close
with the princess Mary. My artist friend tells me that court painters
would use the features of living relatives, a kind of amlagam, in
order to reconstruct and paint a deceased one.I thought the painting
also bears a resemblance to the drawing of George in the Rous Roll.
>
[Richard III Society Forum] Here is a link for "George" portrait
2005-10-12 16:22:00
My usual source is fairly sure that Charles I and the Duke of Monmouth were sewn back together before burial.
----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Lark
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Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Here is a link for "George" portrait
Thinking only of treason:
Would male commoners like John of Gloucester have their intestines sewn back in and their "privy members" re-attached? Just possible.
Female commoners like Margaret Bulmer (Thomas Stafford's aunt) could not be un-burnt. However, the Colchester gentlemen Lucas and Lisle were shot which may not have necessitated much in the way of repair work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
To:
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Here is a link for "George" portrait
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> George seems to have been the only executed person who could be
buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the
"Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually
sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rhonda
> To:
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Here is a link for "George"
portrait
>
>
> Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
> in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
> version, but cannot locate it.
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
> A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
> figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
> long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
Yikes, Stephen, cannot imagine wanting to reunite a noggin with its
corpse after being on display for a time. I suppose this "priviledge"
was reserved for VIP's?
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: Stephen Lark
To:
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Here is a link for "George" portrait
Thinking only of treason:
Would male commoners like John of Gloucester have their intestines sewn back in and their "privy members" re-attached? Just possible.
Female commoners like Margaret Bulmer (Thomas Stafford's aunt) could not be un-burnt. However, the Colchester gentlemen Lucas and Lisle were shot which may not have necessitated much in the way of repair work.
----- Original Message -----
From: Rhonda
To:
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: Here is a link for "George" portrait
--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> George seems to have been the only executed person who could be
buried in one piece. However, as I discovered when researching the
"Accidental Traitor" Arthur Capell, Baron Hadham, heads were usually
sewn back onto corpses for this purpose!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rhonda
> To:
> Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 6:35 PM
> Subject: Here is a link for "George"
portrait
>
>
> Don't know f it will link you up, but here is the info. I just typed
> in george duke clarence on google images.I have seen the color
> version, but cannot locate it.
>
> worldroots.com/.../gifs.38/georgeclarence1449.jpg
>
> A friend in our American chapter and I have been having fun trying to
> figure out the reason that such a portrait would have been painted
> long after the death of George.Any other ideas?
Yikes, Stephen, cannot imagine wanting to reunite a noggin with its
corpse after being on display for a time. I suppose this "priviledge"
was reserved for VIP's?
>
>
>
>
>
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