More Parallel History

More Parallel History

2005-10-23 16:22:24
Stephen Lark
MKJ's book on Agincourt finally comes out next Monday, leaving him to
finish that book on Clarence's principal line. I wonder whether Warren
Hastings, Governor of India in C18 then impeached but acquitted, was
part of this alternative royal house?

Re: More Parallel History

2005-10-25 22:54:23
dixonian2004
Yes, and also what about Flora Hastings, the unfortunate lady who was
hounded to death by Queen Victoria's court? She poor soul had liver
cancer but was suspected of being pregnant, which since she was
unmarried was an appalling thing in those days.

Re: More Parallel History

2005-10-26 09:32:42
Stephen Lark
--- In , "dixonian2004" <sally-
turfrey@h...> wrote:
>
> Yes, and also what about Flora Hastings, the unfortunate lady who was
> hounded to death by Queen Victoria's court? She poor soul had liver
> cancer but was suspected of being pregnant, which since she was
> unmarried was an appalling thing in those days.
>
I remember the original TV programme and have read the C4 website for
it. Flora, lady-in-waiting to Victoria, was the sister of the Earl of
Loudoun so was a very prominent Clarence descendant.
We shall have to wait to hear about Warren Hastings.

Re: More Parallel History

2005-10-27 10:13:12
theblackprussian
A quick browse through Burke's Peerage gives no reference to Warren
Hastings. However it does mention a Mary Hastings who Elizabeth I tried
to marry off to Ivan the Terrible!
Many Hastings (including the present Earl of Huntingdon) use the name
Robin Hood (he is William Edward Robin Hood Hastings) in reference to
the myth that Robin was a disposessed Earl of Huntingdon. There is
however no evidence of any such title, and Robin Hood seems to have
been a mere footsoldier in the service of the Earls of Lancaster in the
early 14th century.


--- In , "Stephen Lark"
<smlark@t...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "dixonian2004" <sally-
> turfrey@h...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, and also what about Flora Hastings, the unfortunate lady who
was
> > hounded to death by Queen Victoria's court? She poor soul had
liver
> > cancer but was suspected of being pregnant, which since she was
> > unmarried was an appalling thing in those days.
> >
> I remember the original TV programme and have read the C4 website for
> it. Flora, lady-in-waiting to Victoria, was the sister of the Earl of
> Loudoun so was a very prominent Clarence descendant.
> We shall have to wait to hear about Warren Hastings.
>

Re: Robin Hood (was More Parallel History)

2005-10-31 18:32:30
rgcorris
Are you saying there was no Earldom of Huntingdon, or that Robin Hood
was not the holder of that title ? I thought the Huntingdon title was
held around that time by the Kings of Scotland ?

Richard

--- In , "theblackprussian"
<theblackprussian@y...> wrote:
>
> Many Hastings (including the present Earl of Huntingdon) use the
> name Robin Hood (he is William Edward Robin Hood Hastings) in
> reference to the myth that Robin was a disposessed Earl of
> Huntingdon. There is however no evidence of any such title, and
> Robin Hood seems to have been a mere footsoldier in the service of
> the Earls of Lancaster in the early 14th century.

Re: Robin Hood (was More Parallel History)

2005-10-31 21:57:36
Stephen Lark
--- In , "rgcorris"
<RSG_Corris@h...> wrote:
>
> Are you saying there was no Earldom of Huntingdon, or that Robin Hood
> was not the holder of that title ? I thought the Huntingdon title was
> held around that time by the Kings of Scotland ?
>
> Richard
>
> --- In , "theblackprussian"
> <theblackprussian@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Many Hastings (including the present Earl of Huntingdon) use the
> > name Robin Hood (he is William Edward Robin Hood Hastings) in
> > reference to the myth that Robin was a disposessed Earl of
> > Huntingdon. There is however no evidence of any such title, and
> > Robin Hood seems to have been a mere footsoldier in the service of
> > the Earls of Lancaster in the early 14th century.
>
This version of the Robin Hood myth dates from Edward II's reign but
William, Lord Hastings' grandson only took the Huntingdon title in
Tudor times.
George lived from 1448/9 to 1544 and was Francis' father and Catherine
Pole's father-in-law.

Re: Robin Hood (was More Parallel History)

2005-11-02 10:49:44
theblackprussian
I meant that Robin Hood holding the title was a myth. There were many
families who held the title, including the Kings of Scotland. The
title was actually held by the junior branch of the Hollands before
they were given the Duke of Exeter title. It was later given to the
Herberts of Raglan in exchange for the Earldom of Pembroke.
The question of who was the legal heir to the title is interesting as
it ties in with the Holland claim to the throne, or at least to the
Duchy of Lancaster (which was a very good one, certainly better than
Henry Tudors!)


--- In , "rgcorris"
<RSG_Corris@h...> wrote:
>
> Are you saying there was no Earldom of Huntingdon, or that Robin Hood
> was not the holder of that title ? I thought the Huntingdon title was
> held around that time by the Kings of Scotland ?
>
> Richard
>
> --- In , "theblackprussian"
> <theblackprussian@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Many Hastings (including the present Earl of Huntingdon) use the
> > name Robin Hood (he is William Edward Robin Hood Hastings) in
> > reference to the myth that Robin was a disposessed Earl of
> > Huntingdon. There is however no evidence of any such title, and
> > Robin Hood seems to have been a mere footsoldier in the service of
> > the Earls of Lancaster in the early 14th century.
>
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