"More than a hunch . . ."

Evening All: I've found your discussion about kyphosis and
scoliosis interesting. Nonpulmonary tuberculosis(sp?)can also cause
the spine to curve.
There was a medical paper written about this subject:

"Pray for the Hunchback; Scoliosis and Kyphosis in Cultural
History" Halter & Krodel, Zeitschrift fur Othopadie und Ihre
Grenzgebiete" Vol. 135, No.6 Nov-Dec. 1977 Pg 557-562

I haven't read this but suspect that it probably gets around to
discussing how those with crooked backs have been treated through
the centuries. Yes, I have scoliosis as well(wasn't found until my
late 20's) and am always interested in finding out stuff like this---
for years I thought that I was just unlucky when I bought shirts and
always picked the ones with one sleeve longer than the other one---
twern't the shirts that were badly made---just me.


"Meek"

This is beginning to sound like a convention or something.

L. Miller wrote:

>
>
> Evening All: I've found your discussion about kyphosis and
> scoliosis interesting. Nonpulmonary tuberculosis(sp?)can also cause
> the spine to curve.
> There was a medical paper written about this subject:
>
> "Pray for the Hunchback; Scoliosis and Kyphosis in Cultural
> History" Halter & Krodel, Zeitschrift fur Othopadie und Ihre
> Grenzgebiete" Vol. 135, No.6 Nov-Dec. 1977 Pg 557-562
>
> I haven't read this but suspect that it probably gets around to
> discussing how those with crooked backs have been treated through
> the centuries. Yes, I have scoliosis as well(wasn't found until my
> late 20's) and am always interested in finding out stuff like this---
> for years I thought that I was just unlucky when I bought shirts and
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Hi Meek,

Thanks very much for posting this; I haven't come across this paper
before, and am always interested to hear of literature on this
subject :) I myself am currently working on a paper examining the
image of the hunchback as portrayed in cinema. As a classicist, I
can recommend Dr Daniel Ogden's "The Crooked Kings of Ancient
Greece" for reference to the treatment of people with spinal
deformities in archaic Greece.

There are of course many conditions that can cause the spine to
curve, but idiopathic cases remain the most common. If Richard III
had any other symptoms/"quirks", it may be possible to link them to
one of the numerous syndromes that includes scoliosis as a symptom.

Regards,
Antonia

--- In , "L. Miller"
<pvtmeek@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Evening All: I've found your discussion about kyphosis and
> scoliosis interesting. Nonpulmonary tuberculosis(sp?)can also
cause
> the spine to curve.
> There was a medical paper written about this subject:
>
> "Pray for the Hunchback; Scoliosis and Kyphosis in Cultural
> History" Halter & Krodel, Zeitschrift fur Othopadie und Ihre
> Grenzgebiete" Vol. 135, No.6 Nov-Dec. 1977 Pg 557-562
>
> I haven't read this but suspect that it probably gets around
to
> discussing how those with crooked backs have been treated through
> the centuries. Yes, I have scoliosis as well(wasn't found until my
> late 20's) and am always interested in finding out stuff like this-
--
> for years I thought that I was just unlucky when I bought shirts
and
> always picked the ones with one sleeve longer than the other one---
> twern't the shirts that were badly made---just me.
>
>
> "Meek"
>

As I've mentioned, mild scoliosis is really quite common! I'm not
surprised to find that others in this group have it. Severe cases
are, however, quite rare.

I'll make sure that my posts here are related to Richard III, but if
anyone here has scoliosis/kyphosis etc and is interested in talking
to others with the same condition, please do visit our forum at
www.scoliosis-support.org :)

Antonia


--- In , William Barber
<bbarber@e...> wrote:
>
> This is beginning to sound like a convention or something.
>
> L. Miller wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Evening All: I've found your discussion about kyphosis and
> > scoliosis interesting. Nonpulmonary tuberculosis(sp?)can also
cause
> > the spine to curve.
> > There was a medical paper written about this subject:
> >
> > "Pray for the Hunchback; Scoliosis and Kyphosis in
Cultural
> > History" Halter & Krodel, Zeitschrift fur Othopadie und Ihre
> > Grenzgebiete" Vol. 135, No.6 Nov-Dec. 1977 Pg 557-562
> >
> > I haven't read this but suspect that it probably gets
around to
> > discussing how those with crooked backs have been treated through
> > the centuries. Yes, I have scoliosis as well(wasn't found until
my
> > late 20's) and am always interested in finding out stuff like
this---
> > for years I thought that I was just unlucky when I bought shirts
and
> > always picked the ones with one sleeve longer than the other one-
--
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Really, Antonia? I'd love to see the results of your research about hunchbacks in the movies! I'm fascinated by the subject and I'm thinking to work on hunchback characters in literature when I'll finish my research about warrior women. Of course if they will let me do it :-)
In literature, considering that the character of an hunchback is present above all during XIX century (as a feature of the poetic of grotesque), I noticed, generally speaking, two attitudes towards them:
1) hump means evil;
2) the hunchback is a most unlucky individual, usually in love with the most beautiful girl of the play/novel, who tries to help her and either dies for her or is condemned to see her marrying happily another man.
I don't know if in cinema is the same. I suppose that sometimes in the movies the hunchback is just a comical character, as Igor in Young Frankenstein.
Cecilia

antonia_barker <antonia_barker@...> ha scritto:
Hi Meek,

Thanks very much for posting this; I haven't come across this paper
before, and am always interested to hear of literature on this
subject :) I myself am currently working on a paper examining the
image of the hunchback as portrayed in cinema. As a classicist, I
can recommend Dr Daniel Ogden's "The Crooked Kings of Ancient
Greece" for reference to the treatment of people with spinal
deformities in archaic Greece.

There are of course many conditions that can cause the spine to
curve, but idiopathic cases remain the most common. If Richard III
had any other symptoms/"quirks", it may be possible to link them to
one of the numerous syndromes that includes scoliosis as a symptom.

Regards,
Antonia





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Hi Cecilia,

"Hunchbacks" are portrayed in much the same way in the cinema.
They're almost always pathetic, shambling creatures, or evil and
twisted. Victor Hugo's character is probably the most sympathetic.
This is in contrast to portrayals of people with other disabilities,
which are often shown as good people who heroically battle against
adversity.

By the way, the term "hunchback" is generally offensive to most
people with severe spinal deformities. I am not at all bothered
about it being used here, because it is clear that members of this
group are not people who would sneer or snigger at deformity or
disability, and the term is used as a description only, rather than
as a term of abuse or scorn. Sadly, the wider world is different;
just as the terms "spastic" and "mongol" are no longer acceptable
terms for people with Cerebral Palsy and Downs Syndrome, we would
like to see the term "hunchback" fall out of use. I think the
difficulty is in being described completely in terms of ones
disability, rather than as a person who just so happens to have a
condition.

Most recently, Disney's "Hunchback" film significantly contributed
to the amount of abuse that the members of our group received from
young children, and the bullying that the children of our members
received from their peers once they realised that their friend's
mummy was a "hunchback".

We have been sneered at for putting forth the idea that future
English translations/productions of Victor Hugo's novel should be
titled "The Notre Dame of Paris" instead of "The Hunchback of Notre
Dame", and have been told that we are being overly politically-
correct, yet this was not Hugo's original title so we see no reason
why it should not be dropped in favour of the original. I sent a
meticulous and unemotional letter to an academic from Nottingham
University who had pooh-poohed our concerns in the broadsheet press,
but he has yet to reply to me. His argument had been that "everyone
knows the book by the Hunchback title", but he is wrong; very few
people have actually read Hugo's novel, they just know the image of
the hunchback from films.

I would be delighted to read your work on hunchbacks in literature
if you are able to research this, expecially if you can find
anything that challenges the stereotype! :)

Very best regards,
Antonia


--- In , Cecilia Latella
<cabepfir@y...> wrote:
>
> Really, Antonia? I'd love to see the results of your research
about hunchbacks in the movies! I'm fascinated by the subject and
I'm thinking to work on hunchback characters in literature when I'll
finish my research about warrior women. Of course if they will let
me do it :-)
> In literature, considering that the character of an hunchback is
present above all during XIX century (as a feature of the poetic of
grotesque), I noticed, generally speaking, two attitudes towards
them:
> 1) hump means evil;
> 2) the hunchback is a most unlucky individual, usually in love
with the most beautiful girl of the play/novel, who tries to help
her and either dies for her or is condemned to see her marrying
happily another man.
> I don't know if in cinema is the same. I suppose that sometimes in
the movies the hunchback is just a comical character, as Igor in
Young Frankenstein.
> Cecilia
>
> antonia_barker <antonia_barker@h...> ha scritto:
> Hi Meek,
>
> Thanks very much for posting this; I haven't come across this
paper
> before, and am always interested to hear of literature on this
> subject :) I myself am currently working on a paper examining the
> image of the hunchback as portrayed in cinema. As a classicist, I
> can recommend Dr Daniel Ogden's "The Crooked Kings of Ancient
> Greece" for reference to the treatment of people with spinal
> deformities in archaic Greece.
>
> There are of course many conditions that can cause the spine to
> curve, but idiopathic cases remain the most common. If Richard III
> had any other symptoms/"quirks", it may be possible to link them
to
> one of the numerous syndromes that includes scoliosis as a
symptom.
>
> Regards,
> Antonia
>
>
>
>
>
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Well, writing in English but not being a mother-tongue I use the word "hunchback" only as a traslation of the Italian word "gobbo", which means the same (hunchback/crouchback = gobbo, hump = gobba). I've never heard the word "gobbo" used as an insult in my country, though in our language history there's surely a phrase where the word "gobbo" is synonymous with "evil": "un colpo gobbo", which means "a trick".
In Italy, being a superstitious country, the hump is in fact considered a lucky thing to see and to touch; touching the hump of an hunchback is a good omen (I don't know why). There's also an hilarious play by Peppino De Filippo (the title is "Non è vero ma ci credo", "It's not true but I believe in it"), in which a very superstitious man tries to arrange a marriage for his daughter with an hunchback.
I don't suffer from spinal deformities but I'm left-handed and there're still many prejudices about lefties, some people still believe that's the hand of the devil. Once in a public library (!) an apparently respectable man addressed me as writing with the hand of devil, and I was astounded.

The most sympathetic and lovely character of an hunchback in literature that I know is that of Philip Wakem in The Mill on the Floss by George Eliot. He's oblviously in love with the main character, Maggie, and she seems to be in love with him too until she finds a new, beautiful lover (which was her cousin's fiancee). Philip is a wonderful person, earnest, well educated, hard-working, and we finally see him crying on the tomb of Maggie (died tragically in a flood).
Cecilia

antonia_barker <antonia_barker@...> ha scritto:
Hi Cecilia,

"Hunchbacks" are portrayed in much the same way in the cinema.
They're almost always pathetic, shambling creatures, or evil and
twisted. Victor Hugo's character is probably the most sympathetic.
This is in contrast to portrayals of people with other disabilities,
which are often shown as good people who heroically battle against
adversity.

By the way, the term "hunchback" is generally offensive to most
people with severe spinal deformities. I am not at all bothered
about it being used here, because it is clear that members of this
group are not people who would sneer or snigger at deformity or
disability, and the term is used as a description only, rather than
as a term of abuse or scorn. Sadly, the wider world is different;
just as the terms "spastic" and "mongol" are no longer acceptable
terms for people with Cerebral Palsy and Downs Syndrome, we would
like to see the term "hunchback" fall out of use. I think the
difficulty is in being described completely in terms of ones
disability, rather than as a person who just so happens to have a
condition.

Most recently, Disney's "Hunchback" film significantly contributed
to the amount of abuse that the members of our group received from
young children, and the bullying that the children of our members
received from their peers once they realised that their friend's
mummy was a "hunchback".

We have been sneered at for putting forth the idea that future
English translations/productions of Victor Hugo's novel should be
titled "The Notre Dame of Paris" instead of "The Hunchback of Notre
Dame", and have been told that we are being overly politically-
correct, yet this was not Hugo's original title so we see no reason
why it should not be dropped in favour of the original. I sent a
meticulous and unemotional letter to an academic from Nottingham
University who had pooh-poohed our concerns in the broadsheet press,
but he has yet to reply to me. His argument had been that "everyone
knows the book by the Hunchback title", but he is wrong; very few
people have actually read Hugo's novel, they just know the image of
the hunchback from films.

I would be delighted to read your work on hunchbacks in literature
if you are able to research this, expecially if you can find
anything that challenges the stereotype! :)

Very best regards,
Antonia




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Hi, All!



Fascinating discussion, this!



I recall from previous reading, folk belief that touching a hunchback's back
will bring good luck. I seem to recall reading this in connection with
Italian dictator Benito Mussolini, so perhaps it is specifically an Italian
folk belief?? Does anyone else know any more about this?



The hunchback in cinema - perhaps Linda can add more than I to this
discussion. There are two main ones that I can think of - both alluded to, I
think, in the discussion below. One is Quasimodo, the Hunchback of Notre
Dame, whose name, according to my late mom, means "After a Fashion." He was
the deformed creature who had been left in the care of the priests of the
cathedral of Notre Dame and who fell hopelessly in love with the gypsy girl
Esmeralda. In the book, as I recall, years after the story ends, an epilog
relates that two skeletons were found intertwined in the church's vaults -
one twisted and deformed, the other wearing a necklace with a green glass
stone . . . It made quite a powerful impression on me as a teenager, the
idea of the hopelessness of his love, and especially the great Charles
Laughton's interpretation of the character. "Oh why am I not made of stone
like these??" he cried as he crouched on the heights of the cathedral among
the gargoyles.



That is the more legitimate descendant of literary tradition.



The other recurring image is the hunchback as the assistant of the mad
scientist, Frankenstein. He is a purely cinematic creation, I believe, as I
don't believe there is any such person appearing in Mary Shelley's book. He
was "Fritz" in the original movie of 1931, played by Dwight Frye, who also
created Renfield the fly-eater to Lugosi's Dracula earlier the same year.
Now, it's been a while since I saw *Bride of Frankenstein*, but I don't
recall a hunchback appearing in that film, which had another mad scientist,
Dr. Praetorius, appearing as the foil for Dr. Frankenstein and the Monster.
I believe Frye was cast as a graverobbing villager named Karl in this one -
but tho unsavoury, he was not a hunchback. It was the next sequel in the
Frankenstein series, *Son of Frankenstein,* released in 1939, which saw the
debut of the memorable hunchback Ygor, created by Bela Lugosi. Ygor
(pronounced "Ee-gor") was an interesting instance in that there was a
backstory provided for him in which his broken neck and his "hunch" were
created by having been hung for graverobbing and left for dead. Ygor was not
just a mere henchman - his desire to see the Monster reanimated, so that he
could continue a string of killings of the jurors who had sentenced Ygor,
actually drove the action and Basil Rathbone, as the son of the original Dr.
Frankenstein. There was a female hunchback essayed in one of the sequels
from the 40's, *House of Frankenstein.* She was played by Jane Addams as the
nurse, Nina. Perhaps not surprisingly, given her sex, she was a sympathetic
character. Speaking of Bela Lugosi's Ygor reminds me that he played another
hunchback - well, really a slight one. When Lugosi's film career was
declining toward the end of WWII, he had a 3-picture deal with RKO. One of
the movies he did was a Val Lewton shocker called *The Body Snatcher,* whose
real stars were Boris Karloff and Henry Daniell. Lugosi was put in for his
name value but got a part not much larger than a cameo, as Daniell's
dim-bulb servant, Joseph. There is an exchange which survives between the
front-office boys in which one man noted that Lugosi had been successful in
few years before as a humpback (Ygor). The memo came back, "Very well, then.
Hump him." Not very polite, I would say! I must confess I never actually
noticed that Joseph was a hunchback, so it must have been a very slight
hump.



Then there are the screen portrayals of Richard, of which y'all are probably
more knowledgeable than I am. The one version related to the films I have
discussed above is Universal's 1939 potboiler, *Tower of London,* featuring
Basil Rathbone as the evil Richard and Boris Karloff as the club-footed
headsman, Mord. This film utilized rear-projection footage for the battle
scenes and has been described as "*Richard the Third* with all of the gore
and none of the art," which strikes me as a pretty fair description.



TTFN :-)



Johanne



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Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:19 AM
To:
Subject: Re: Re: "More than a hunch . . ."



Really, Antonia? I'd love to see the results of your research about
hunchbacks in the movies! I'm fascinated by the subject and I'm thinking to
work on hunchback characters in literature when I'll finish my research
about warrior women. Of course if they will let me do it :-)
In literature, considering that the character of an hunchback is present
above all during XIX century (as a feature of the poetic of grotesque), I
noticed, generally speaking, two attitudes towards them:
1) hump means evil;
2) the hunchback is a most unlucky individual, usually in love with the most
beautiful girl of the play/novel, who tries to help her and either dies for
her or is condemned to see her marrying happily another man.
I don't know if in cinema is the same. I suppose that sometimes in the
movies the hunchback is just a comical character, as Igor in Young
Frankenstein.
Cecilia

antonia_barker <antonia_barker@...> ha scritto:
Hi Meek,

Thanks very much for posting this; I haven't come across this paper
before, and am always interested to hear of literature on this
subject :) I myself am currently working on a paper examining the
image of the hunchback as portrayed in cinema. As a classicist, I
can recommend Dr Daniel Ogden's "The Crooked Kings of Ancient
Greece" for reference to the treatment of people with spinal
deformities in archaic Greece.

There are of course many conditions that can cause the spine to
curve, but idiopathic cases remain the most common. If Richard III
had any other symptoms/"quirks", it may be possible to link them to
one of the numerous syndromes that includes scoliosis as a symptom.

Regards,
Antonia





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Oooops!



That should have read *House of Dracula,* not *House of Frankenstein.*



*House of Frankenstein* was released in 1944; *House of Dracula* in 1945,
and both were "monster rally" movies from Universal featuring both Dracula
and Frankenstein's Monster. But the hunchbacked nurse appeared in only
*House of Dracula.* And "Jane Adams" should be spelled with one "d," not
two.



Sorry for any confusion!



Johanne





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From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Johanne
Tournier
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:38 AM
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<snip>

There was a female hunchback essayed in one of the sequels
from the 40's, *House of Frankenstein.* She was played by Jane Addams as the
nurse, Nina. Perhaps not surprisingly, given her sex, she was a sympathetic
character.



<snip>

The 1963 Phantom of the Opera is an interesting case, because Erik the Phantom is himself somewhat disabled (he was severely burned in this version, and has a disease similar to porphyria in most others) and is shown in a totally sympathetic light (while even something as romanticized as the Andrew Lloyd Webber musical version allows him an erratic personality). Instead, all of his notorious acts are committed by... his hunchbacked assistant, who thinks boss is being too gentle with the opera managers.

(As a Phantom phan as well as a Ricardian, I'm interested in how all unusual conditions are portrayed in film. There's been a big backlash from the albino community as of late about how they're almost always portrayed as creepy loners.)



Johanne Tournier <jltournier@...> wrote:
Oooops!



That should have read *House of Dracula,* not *House of Frankenstein.*



*House of Frankenstein* was released in 1944; *House of Dracula* in 1945,
and both were "monster rally" movies from Universal featuring both Dracula
and Frankenstein's Monster. But the hunchbacked nurse appeared in only
*House of Dracula.* And "Jane Adams" should be spelled with one "d," not
two.



Sorry for any confusion!



Johanne





_____

From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of Johanne
Tournier
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 9:38 AM
To:
Subject: RE: Re: "More than a hunch . . ."





<snip>

There was a female hunchback essayed in one of the sequels
from the 40's, *House of Frankenstein.* She was played by Jane Addams as the
nurse, Nina. Perhaps not surprisingly, given her sex, she was a sympathetic
character.



<snip>







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