"Arms for the Earl of March"
"Arms for the Earl of March"
2005-11-15 16:41:16
Morning All: According to "Shakespeare's Heraldry" on pages 128
states "As Earl, he(Edward) would bear the royal arms with a
differencing label, but it is uncertain what form that label took; it
may have been white charged with three purple lions rampant, such as
his father had used when Earl of March." Then on page 131 there are
examples of labels used by the House of York a)Duke of York, b)Earl of
March, c)Edmund, Earl of Rutland, d)George, Duke of Clarence and e)
Richard of Glouscester.
The giant book on heraldry by Foxe-Davies is also a good source
for this sort of stuff----many of the illustrations are done in the
style of the time period that the arms were issued----the stylized
evolution of how lions are depicted is interesting to see. Some forms
of fluer-de-lys look like flattened banana peels.
"Meek"
states "As Earl, he(Edward) would bear the royal arms with a
differencing label, but it is uncertain what form that label took; it
may have been white charged with three purple lions rampant, such as
his father had used when Earl of March." Then on page 131 there are
examples of labels used by the House of York a)Duke of York, b)Earl of
March, c)Edmund, Earl of Rutland, d)George, Duke of Clarence and e)
Richard of Glouscester.
The giant book on heraldry by Foxe-Davies is also a good source
for this sort of stuff----many of the illustrations are done in the
style of the time period that the arms were issued----the stylized
evolution of how lions are depicted is interesting to see. Some forms
of fluer-de-lys look like flattened banana peels.
"Meek"
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] "Arms for the Earl of March"
2005-11-15 19:31:07
Ancillary to this discussion: The following link leads to a modeller's
interpretation of Edward arrayed as the 'Sunne in Splendour'. Perhaps
the artist read Hughes' work on Edward and the alchemists in which
Edward is presented as being well aware of his role, not only as an
earthly king, but also as the alchemical 'king'.
http://www.realminiatures.com/catalog/g218-2.html
L. Miller wrote:
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> Morning All: According to "Shakespeare's Heraldry" on pages 128
> states "As Earl, he(Edward) would bear the royal arms with a
> differencing label, but it is uncertain what form that label took; it
> may have been white charged with three purple lions rampant, such as
> his father had used when Earl of March." Then on page 131 there are
> examples of labels used by the House of York a)Duke of York, b)Earl of
> March, c)Edmund, Earl of Rutland, d)George, Duke of Clarence and e)
> Richard of Glouscester.
> The giant book on heraldry by Foxe-Davies is also a good source
> for this sort of stuff----many of the illustrations are done in the
> style of the time period that the arms were issued----the stylized
> evolution of how lions are depicted is interesting to see. Some forms
> of fluer-de-lys look like flattened banana peels.
>
> "Meek"
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interpretation of Edward arrayed as the 'Sunne in Splendour'. Perhaps
the artist read Hughes' work on Edward and the alchemists in which
Edward is presented as being well aware of his role, not only as an
earthly king, but also as the alchemical 'king'.
http://www.realminiatures.com/catalog/g218-2.html
L. Miller wrote:
>
>
>
> Morning All: According to "Shakespeare's Heraldry" on pages 128
> states "As Earl, he(Edward) would bear the royal arms with a
> differencing label, but it is uncertain what form that label took; it
> may have been white charged with three purple lions rampant, such as
> his father had used when Earl of March." Then on page 131 there are
> examples of labels used by the House of York a)Duke of York, b)Earl of
> March, c)Edmund, Earl of Rutland, d)George, Duke of Clarence and e)
> Richard of Glouscester.
> The giant book on heraldry by Foxe-Davies is also a good source
> for this sort of stuff----many of the illustrations are done in the
> style of the time period that the arms were issued----the stylized
> evolution of how lions are depicted is interesting to see. Some forms
> of fluer-de-lys look like flattened banana peels.
>
> "Meek"
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Re: "Arms for the Earl of March"
2005-11-16 11:44:39
OK, for the want of anything better, I'll go with the purple lions
for now. If you have a copy of the Shakespeare heraldry or Fox-
Davies, I wonder if you'd be so good as to peruse the coats of arms
on my cards and let me know of any errors or omissions I've made?
The set is meant to represent the complete peerage for 1453, so it's
arms for that date that I need.
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/avalonhillskingmakerclub/files
There are several Grey barons on my cards, I wonder if all the
differences are correct?
--- In , "L. Miller"
<pvtmeek@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Morning All: According to "Shakespeare's Heraldry" on pages
128
> states "As Earl, he(Edward) would bear the royal arms with a
> differencing label, but it is uncertain what form that label took;
it
> may have been white charged with three purple lions rampant, such
as
> his father had used when Earl of March." Then on page 131 there are
> examples of labels used by the House of York a)Duke of York, b)Earl
of
> March, c)Edmund, Earl of Rutland, d)George, Duke of Clarence and e)
> Richard of Glouscester.
> The giant book on heraldry by Foxe-Davies is also a good source
> for this sort of stuff----many of the illustrations are done in the
> style of the time period that the arms were issued----the stylized
> evolution of how lions are depicted is interesting to see. Some
forms
> of fluer-de-lys look like flattened banana peels.
>
> "Meek"
>
for now. If you have a copy of the Shakespeare heraldry or Fox-
Davies, I wonder if you'd be so good as to peruse the coats of arms
on my cards and let me know of any errors or omissions I've made?
The set is meant to represent the complete peerage for 1453, so it's
arms for that date that I need.
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/avalonhillskingmakerclub/files
There are several Grey barons on my cards, I wonder if all the
differences are correct?
--- In , "L. Miller"
<pvtmeek@y...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Morning All: According to "Shakespeare's Heraldry" on pages
128
> states "As Earl, he(Edward) would bear the royal arms with a
> differencing label, but it is uncertain what form that label took;
it
> may have been white charged with three purple lions rampant, such
as
> his father had used when Earl of March." Then on page 131 there are
> examples of labels used by the House of York a)Duke of York, b)Earl
of
> March, c)Edmund, Earl of Rutland, d)George, Duke of Clarence and e)
> Richard of Glouscester.
> The giant book on heraldry by Foxe-Davies is also a good source
> for this sort of stuff----many of the illustrations are done in the
> style of the time period that the arms were issued----the stylized
> evolution of how lions are depicted is interesting to see. Some
forms
> of fluer-de-lys look like flattened banana peels.
>
> "Meek"
>