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this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
in canada we have a tv channel called vision tv/VSN.
they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect of the spanish inquistion.

sorry, i don't have more info, but check out your local tv listings.

roslyn

Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot about
it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.

fayre rose wrote:

> this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
> in canada we have a tv channel called vision tv/VSN.
> they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
> pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect
> of the spanish inquistion.
>
> sorry, i don't have more info, but check out your local tv listings.
>
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as long as they don't smear pork fat on my feet being held to a fire, i think all of my days are pretty darn good...and ye gods n little fishes these inquistors had a handbook on torture, of what they could and could not do.

can you guess i caught most of the program when it aired here a couple of hours ago. it was seriously, very interesting.

i would have like to caught the first episode. i'll just have to watch for it in reruns.

roslyn

William Barber <bbarber@...> wrote:
Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot about
it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.

fayre rose wrote:

> this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
> in canada we have a tv channel called vision tv/VSN.
> they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
> pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect
> of the spanish inquistion.
>
> sorry, i don't have more info, but check out your local tv listings.
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Mel Brook's treatment of the Inquisition in "A History of the World:
Part I" was great. He did it up as an Esther Williams extravaganza,
complete with nuns in little one piece bathing suits.

You say that there were things the Dominicans actually couldn't do? Must
have been a short chapter in the handbook.

fayre rose wrote:

> as long as they don't smear pork fat on my feet being held to a fire,
> i think all of my days are pretty darn good...and ye gods n little
> fishes these inquistors had a handbook on torture, of what they could
> and could not do.
>
> can you guess i caught most of the program when it aired here a
> couple of hours ago. it was seriously, very interesting.
>
> i would have like to caught the first episode. i'll just have to
> watch for it in reruns.
>
> roslyn
>
> William Barber <bbarber@...> wrote:
> Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot
> about
> it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.
>
> fayre rose wrote:
>
> > this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
> > in canada we have a tv channel called vision tv/VSN.
> > they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
> > pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect
> > of the spanish inquistion.
> >
> > sorry, i don't have more info, but check out your local tv listings.
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I started by recording it was I watched (it was on UK History Channel
in the UK) but after getting halfway through episode two I stopped
watching and erased the recordings. Didn't like it at all.
Paul


On Feb 9, 2006, at 21:43, William Barber wrote:

> Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot
> about
> it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.
>
> fayre rose wrote:
>
>> this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
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>> they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
>> pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect
>> of the spanish inquistion.
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"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"

it was just a breeze by comment. no discussion. just that they had a handbook. they also turned their crosses/crucifix, so jesus won't be offended by what they did in his name.

amazing the logic that can be used to justify cruelty.

i'd tell you more, but then it would take away from what you are about to watch.

roslyn

William Barber <bbarber@...> wrote:
Mel Brook's treatment of the Inquisition in "A History of the World:
Part I" was great. He did it up as an Esther Williams extravaganza,
complete with nuns in little one piece bathing suits.

You say that there were things the Dominicans actually couldn't do? Must
have been a short chapter in the handbook.

fayre rose wrote:

> as long as they don't smear pork fat on my feet being held to a fire,
> i think all of my days are pretty darn good...and ye gods n little
> fishes these inquistors had a handbook on torture, of what they could
> and could not do.
>
> can you guess i caught most of the program when it aired here a
> couple of hours ago. it was seriously, very interesting.
>
> i would have like to caught the first episode. i'll just have to
> watch for it in reruns.
>
> roslyn
>
> William Barber <bbarber@...> wrote:
> Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot
> about
> it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.
>
> fayre rose wrote:
>
> > this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
> > in canada we have a tv channel called vision tv/VSN.
> > they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
> > pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect
> > of the spanish inquistion.
> >
> > sorry, i don't have more info, but check out your local tv listings.
> >
> > roslyn
> >
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i wasn't wild about the dramatisation, but i found it informative. i've not studied the inquistion to any degree. so much of the info was new to me...ergo interesting.
roslyn

Paul Trevor Bale <paultrevor@...> wrote:
I started by recording it was I watched (it was on UK History Channel
in the UK) but after getting halfway through episode two I stopped
watching and erased the recordings. Didn't like it at all.
Paul


On Feb 9, 2006, at 21:43, William Barber wrote:

> Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot
> about
> it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.
>
> fayre rose wrote:
>
>> this is to canadians, and perhaps americans.
>> in canada we have a tv channel called vision tv/VSN.
>> they're are currently broadcasting a 4 pt series on the inquistion.
>> pt.2 will replay again tonight. pt. 2 is about the origin and effect
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Don't be too hard on yourself for missing this show - no one expects
the Spanish Inquisition!
If you're squeamish though make sure you miss episode three, where they
bring out the comfy chair.


--- In , William Barber
<bbarber@...> wrote:
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> Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot
about
> it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.
>

----- Original Message -----
From: theblackprussian
To:
Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: Secrets of the Inquistion


Don't be too hard on yourself for missing this show - no one expects
the Spanish Inquisition!
If you're squeamish though make sure you miss episode three, where they
bring out the comfy chair.

.... or, as Bernard Cribbins and Jim Dale found out, the plate of ham sandwiches!

--- In , William Barber
<bbarber@...> wrote:
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> Many thanks. I saw the trailer for it a few weeks back, but forgot
about
> it. It's a good thing to watch if you think _you've_ had a bad day.
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About a year ago we had some good discussions about Zeitgeist. While
watching the 'Secrets of the Inquisition' series, I felt great anger
toward both the church hierarchy and the inquisitors. I thought, "You
know, if I'd lived then, I would have led an underground movement
against the Church." I had to keep reminding myself that it is
impossible to insert oneself into the mindset of another age. Further, I
had to chide myself for my own arrogance (Relax. I wasn't that hard on
myself.)

I was then reminded of our discussions concerning Richard. Too often we
analyze his era as if we were trying to uncover the plot of a mystery
novel. We must remember that there are both factual and cultural aspects
of his time of which we will likely never be aware. How many
controversial sociological analyses have been made of this era (Hicks,
Hughes, etc.)? Again, We can never truly crawl into our subjects' minds.

while we can not truly crawl into the mind and era, we can however have a greater understanding of an era and how the people lived their lives or ruled others via the influences available, such as writings on lifestyle, politics, health and religion amongst others...just as we today listen political pundits and lifestyle gurus..our ancestors did the same.

people don't change, just the laws that govern us and our "society" no matter the era.

before machevalli's rules for the prince, rulers used secretcum secretorum. queen phillipa gave a copy to e3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretum_Secretorum

to read secrets of secrets click here
http://www.colourcountry.net/secretum/

roslyn

Bill Barber <bbarber@...> wrote:
About a year ago we had some good discussions about Zeitgeist. While
watching the 'Secrets of the Inquisition' series, I felt great anger
toward both the church hierarchy and the inquisitors. I thought, "You
know, if I'd lived then, I would have led an underground movement
against the Church." I had to keep reminding myself that it is
impossible to insert oneself into the mindset of another age. Further, I
had to chide myself for my own arrogance (Relax. I wasn't that hard on
myself.)

I was then reminded of our discussions concerning Richard. Too often we
analyze his era as if we were trying to uncover the plot of a mystery
novel. We must remember that there are both factual and cultural aspects
of his time of which we will likely never be aware. How many
controversial sociological analyses have been made of this era (Hicks,
Hughes, etc.)? Again, We can never truly crawl into our subjects' minds.





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