Old English/middle English

Old English/middle English

2006-07-22 17:33:09
Mark Orridge
I did read somewhere that Pendle Hill in Lancashire is actually 'the hill hill hill'. Pen is hill in Welsh, from Brythonic Celtic; -dle involves an OE word for hill, then the modern English form got tagged on as well.

Ann

Hi Ann,
Similar sort of occurence for Breedon on the Hill in my home county of Leicestershire.
Hill,Hill on the Hill!!
Mark.




Re: Old English/middle English

2006-07-22 19:45:27
oregonkaty
--- In , "Mark Orridge"
<l.orridge2@...> wrote:
>
> I did read somewhere that Pendle Hill in Lancashire is
actually 'the hill hill hill'. Pen is hill in Welsh, from Brythonic
Celtic; -dle involves an OE word for hill, then the modern English
form got tagged on as well.
>
> Ann
>
> Hi Ann,
> Similar sort of occurence for Breedon on the Hill in my
home county of Leicestershire.
> Hill,Hill on the Hill!!


In the Southwestern US we have similar names that arise from a
collision of English and Spanish...ie Rio Grande River (Big River
River), La Brea Tar Pits (The Tar Tar Pits), and my favorite, a
street named Avenida la Calle (Little Alley Avenue)

Katy

Re: Old English/middle English

2006-07-23 01:31:02
mariewalsh2003
--- In , oregonkaty
<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "Mark Orridge"
> <l.orridge2@> wrote:
> >
> > I did read somewhere that Pendle Hill in Lancashire is
> actually 'the hill hill hill'. Pen is hill in Welsh, from Brythonic
> Celtic; -dle involves an OE word for hill, then the modern English
> form got tagged on as well.
> >
> > Ann
> >
> > Hi Ann,
> > Similar sort of occurence for Breedon on the Hill in
my
> home county of Leicestershire.
> > Hill,Hill on the Hill!!
>
>
> In the Southwestern US we have similar names that arise from a
> collision of English and Spanish...ie Rio Grande River (Big River
> River), La Brea Tar Pits (The Tar Tar Pits), and my favorite, a
> street named Avenida la Calle (Little Alley Avenue)
>
> Katy

And, retuning to England, of course there's the River Avon itself
(avon being merely the Celtic word for river).

On the Bree/Hill theme, I wonder if Hilbre on the Wirral might be
another example. Tolkien did it deliberately, with the village of
Bree nestling under Bree Hill.

Marie





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