Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-18 21:47:43
Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had trouble tracing Mortons
tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the crypt - there it was.
His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are but I was shown where
they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the spot as the chapel he is
in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/shouting abuse at it.
Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells troops, I was told,
sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I was recounting to my
husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of escape) how Morton had
forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More his versions of
events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in Morton - I did confess yes
but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had caused so much damage
to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called it!! We spent a long
time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth Woodville (thos staine
glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely breathtaking) & before we
went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of the Princes - I said my
theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger one returned as
Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for 12 months.
Eileen
tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the crypt - there it was.
His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are but I was shown where
they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the spot as the chapel he is
in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/shouting abuse at it.
Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells troops, I was told,
sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I was recounting to my
husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of escape) how Morton had
forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More his versions of
events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in Morton - I did confess yes
but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had caused so much damage
to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called it!! We spent a long
time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth Woodville (thos staine
glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely breathtaking) & before we
went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of the Princes - I said my
theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger one returned as
Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for 12 months.
Eileen
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-19 22:22:31
Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
railing, but apart from that......:-)
Paul
On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> trouble tracing Mortons
> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> crypt - there it was.
> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> but I was shown where
> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> spot as the chapel he is
> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> shouting abuse at it.
> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> troops, I was told,
> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> was recounting to my
> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> escape) how Morton had
> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> his versions of
> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> Morton - I did confess yes
> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> caused so much damage
> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> it!! We spent a long
> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> Woodville (thos staine
> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> breathtaking) & before we
> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> the Princes - I said my
> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> one returned as
> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> 12 months.
> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
railing, but apart from that......:-)
Paul
On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> trouble tracing Mortons
> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> crypt - there it was.
> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> but I was shown where
> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> spot as the chapel he is
> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> shouting abuse at it.
> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> troops, I was told,
> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> was recounting to my
> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> escape) how Morton had
> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> his versions of
> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> Morton - I did confess yes
> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> caused so much damage
> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> it!! We spent a long
> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> Woodville (thos staine
> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> breathtaking) & before we
> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> the Princes - I said my
> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> one returned as
> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> 12 months.
> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-19 23:34:41
I love it!
Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
Amy Barkman
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Trevor Bale
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
railing, but apart from that......:-)
Paul
On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> trouble tracing Mortons
> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> crypt - there it was.
> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> but I was shown where
> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> spot as the chapel he is
> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> shouting abuse at it.
> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> troops, I was told,
> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> was recounting to my
> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> escape) how Morton had
> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> his versions of
> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> Morton - I did confess yes
> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> caused so much damage
> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> it!! We spent a long
> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> Woodville (thos staine
> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> breathtaking) & before we
> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> the Princes - I said my
> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> one returned as
> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> 12 months.
> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
Amy Barkman
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Trevor Bale
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
railing, but apart from that......:-)
Paul
On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> trouble tracing Mortons
> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> crypt - there it was.
> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> but I was shown where
> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> spot as the chapel he is
> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> shouting abuse at it.
> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> troops, I was told,
> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> was recounting to my
> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> escape) how Morton had
> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> his versions of
> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> Morton - I did confess yes
> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> caused so much damage
> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> it!! We spent a long
> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> Woodville (thos staine
> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> breathtaking) & before we
> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> the Princes - I said my
> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> one returned as
> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> 12 months.
> Eileen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-20 02:19:23
Ask Paul what form his railing took, Amy.
Amy Barkman wrote:
>
> I love it!
> Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
>
> Amy Barkman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
>
> Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> railing, but apart from that......:-)
> Paul
>
> On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
>
> > Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> > trouble tracing Mortons
> > tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> > crypt - there it was.
> > His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> > but I was shown where
> > they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> > spot as the chapel he is
> > in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> > shouting abuse at it.
> > Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> > troops, I was told,
> > sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> > was recounting to my
> > husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> > escape) how Morton had
> > forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> > his versions of
> > events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> > Morton - I did confess yes
> > but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> > caused so much damage
> > to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> > it!! We spent a long
> > time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> > Woodville (thos staine
> > glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> > breathtaking) & before we
> > went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> > the Princes - I said my
> > theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> > one returned as
> > Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> > Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> > 12 months.
> > Eileen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
>
>
>
>
Amy Barkman wrote:
>
> I love it!
> Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
>
> Amy Barkman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> <mailto:%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
>
> Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> railing, but apart from that......:-)
> Paul
>
> On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
>
> > Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> > trouble tracing Mortons
> > tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> > crypt - there it was.
> > His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> > but I was shown where
> > they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> > spot as the chapel he is
> > in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> > shouting abuse at it.
> > Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> > troops, I was told,
> > sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> > was recounting to my
> > husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> > escape) how Morton had
> > forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> > his versions of
> > events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> > Morton - I did confess yes
> > but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> > caused so much damage
> > to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> > it!! We spent a long
> > time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> > Woodville (thos staine
> > glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> > breathtaking) & before we
> > went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> > the Princes - I said my
> > theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> > one returned as
> > Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> > Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> > 12 months.
> > Eileen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
>
>
>
>
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-20 10:01:24
Well if it means the man is finally in a confined space it has been
worth the effort!!!
Paul
On 19 Sep 2006, at 23:16, Amy Barkman wrote:
> I love it!
> Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
>
> Amy Barkman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
>
>
> Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> railing, but apart from that......:-)
> Paul
>
> On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
>
>> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
>> trouble tracing Mortons
>> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
>> crypt - there it was.
>> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
>> but I was shown where
>> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
>> spot as the chapel he is
>> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
>> shouting abuse at it.
>> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
>> troops, I was told,
>> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
>> was recounting to my
>> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
>> escape) how Morton had
>> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
>> his versions of
>> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
>> Morton - I did confess yes
>> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
>> caused so much damage
>> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
>> it!! We spent a long
>> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
>> Woodville (thos staine
>> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
>> breathtaking) & before we
>> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
>> the Princes - I said my
>> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
>> one returned as
>> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
>> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
>> 12 months.
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
worth the effort!!!
Paul
On 19 Sep 2006, at 23:16, Amy Barkman wrote:
> I love it!
> Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
>
> Amy Barkman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
>
>
> Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> railing, but apart from that......:-)
> Paul
>
> On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
>
>> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
>> trouble tracing Mortons
>> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
>> crypt - there it was.
>> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
>> but I was shown where
>> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
>> spot as the chapel he is
>> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
>> shouting abuse at it.
>> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
>> troops, I was told,
>> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
>> was recounting to my
>> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
>> escape) how Morton had
>> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
>> his versions of
>> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
>> Morton - I did confess yes
>> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
>> caused so much damage
>> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
>> it!! We spent a long
>> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
>> Woodville (thos staine
>> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
>> breathtaking) & before we
>> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
>> the Princes - I said my
>> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
>> one returned as
>> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
>> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
>> 12 months.
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-20 12:49:04
--- In , Paul Trevor Bale <paultrevor@...> wrote:
>
> Well if it means the man is finally in a confined space it has been
> worth the effort!!!
> Paul
>
> On 19 Sep 2006, at 23:16, Amy Barkman wrote:
>
> > I love it!
> > Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> > anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
Well strangely, whilst we were standing there talking to the guide, two other people
approached the guide and asked if that was Morton's tomb?
Eileen
> >
> > Amy Barkman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
> >
> >
> > Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> > feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> > railing, but apart from that......:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
> >
> >> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> >> trouble tracing Mortons
> >> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> >> crypt - there it was.
> >> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> >> but I was shown where
> >> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> >> spot as the chapel he is
> >> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> >> shouting abuse at it.
> >> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> >> troops, I was told,
> >> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> >> was recounting to my
> >> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> >> escape) how Morton had
> >> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> >> his versions of
> >> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> >> Morton - I did confess yes
> >> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> >> caused so much damage
> >> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> >> it!! We spent a long
> >> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> >> Woodville (thos staine
> >> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> >> breathtaking) & before we
> >> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> >> the Princes - I said my
> >> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> >> one returned as
> >> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> >> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> >> 12 months.
> >> Eileen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
>
>
> Well if it means the man is finally in a confined space it has been
> worth the effort!!!
> Paul
>
> On 19 Sep 2006, at 23:16, Amy Barkman wrote:
>
> > I love it!
> > Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> > anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
Well strangely, whilst we were standing there talking to the guide, two other people
approached the guide and asked if that was Morton's tomb?
Eileen
> >
> > Amy Barkman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Paul Trevor Bale
> > To:
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> > Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
> >
> >
> > Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> > feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> > railing, but apart from that......:-)
> > Paul
> >
> > On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
> >
> >> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
> >> trouble tracing Mortons
> >> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
> >> crypt - there it was.
> >> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
> >> but I was shown where
> >> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
> >> spot as the chapel he is
> >> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
> >> shouting abuse at it.
> >> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
> >> troops, I was told,
> >> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
> >> was recounting to my
> >> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
> >> escape) how Morton had
> >> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
> >> his versions of
> >> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
> >> Morton - I did confess yes
> >> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
> >> caused so much damage
> >> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
> >> it!! We spent a long
> >> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
> >> Woodville (thos staine
> >> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
> >> breathtaking) & before we
> >> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
> >> the Princes - I said my
> >> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
> >> one returned as
> >> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
> >> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
> >> 12 months.
> >> Eileen
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
2006-09-20 18:34:57
p.s. I'd hope I would be remembered in Ricardian circles for getting
the Middleham celebrations film made in 1983 (wrote, edited, co-
directed). But I'll settle for getting Morton locked away! :-)
Paul
On 19 Sep 2006, at 23:16, Amy Barkman wrote:
> I love it!
> Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
>
> Amy Barkman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
>
>
> Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> railing, but apart from that......:-)
> Paul
>
> On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
>
>> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
>> trouble tracing Mortons
>> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
>> crypt - there it was.
>> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
>> but I was shown where
>> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
>> spot as the chapel he is
>> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
>> shouting abuse at it.
>> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
>> troops, I was told,
>> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
>> was recounting to my
>> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
>> escape) how Morton had
>> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
>> his versions of
>> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
>> Morton - I did confess yes
>> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
>> caused so much damage
>> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
>> it!! We spent a long
>> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
>> Woodville (thos staine
>> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
>> breathtaking) & before we
>> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
>> the Princes - I said my
>> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
>> one returned as
>> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
>> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
>> 12 months.
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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>
"a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
the Middleham celebrations film made in 1983 (wrote, edited, co-
directed). But I'll settle for getting Morton locked away! :-)
Paul
On 19 Sep 2006, at 23:16, Amy Barkman wrote:
> I love it!
> Paul's claim to fame...he is personally the cause of an
> anti-railing railing surrounding Morton's burial place!
>
> Amy Barkman
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Trevor Bale
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Canterbury Cathedral/Morton
>
>
> Odd. When I last visited to leave my own personal deposit of my
> feelings about the man there was no barrier or railing. Well I was
> railing, but apart from that......:-)
> Paul
>
> On 18 Sep 2006, at 21:33, eileen wrote:
>
>> Spent a lovely day in Canterbury today - whilst in Cathedral had
>> trouble tracing Mortons
>> tomb - remember Paul saying it was there - was told to look in the
>> crypt - there it was.
>> His cenotaph is a short distance from where his actual remains are
>> but I was shown where
>> they were beneath a marble slab but you cant get right up to the
>> spot as the chapel he is
>> in is railed off - probably to stop Ricardians from stamping/
>> shouting abuse at it.
>> Although his monument has been badly bashed about (Cromwells
>> troops, I was told,
>> sharpened their swords on his face) it still is splendid. Whilst I
>> was recounting to my
>> husband (whose eyes were glazing over but he had no chance of
>> escape) how Morton had
>> forever damned Richard's name by feeding a young Sir Thomas More
>> his versions of
>> events, a guide came over and enquired if we had an interest in
>> Morton - I did confess yes
>> but I was not there because I was a fan of his but because he had
>> caused so much damage
>> to Richard. He was quite taken aback by my 'passion' as he called
>> it!! We spent a long
>> time chatting about Morton and his bleeding fork and Elizabeth
>> Woodville (thos staine
>> glass windows depicting Edward and his family are absolutely
>> breathtaking) & before we
>> went out separate ways he asked me if I had a theory on the fate of
>> the Princes - I said my
>> theory was the oldest boy died of natural causes and the younger
>> one returned as
>> Warbeck. Thoughly enjoyed it & cant wait to return.
>> Incidentally - you have to pay £6 entrance but the ticket lasts for
>> 12 months.
>> Eileen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> "a winner is a dreamer who just won't quit"
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