Malory
Malory
2006-11-23 14:56:17
Yet another post from the same source:
Thomas Malory was a young English knight garrisoned at the Castle of
Rouen during the Occupation known as "Lancastrian France". He was
approximately of an age with both Joan of Arc and Jacquetta duchess
of Bedford, or, approximately nineteen. He had to watch the
execution by burning of Joan of Arc in the castle courtyard at Rouen
together with the young French duchess and became her lifelong
devotee. Some historians and writers have made much of his feudal
connexions to the Nevilles ( he held his land in fee from them) but
have ignored evidence of his other loyalties. Loyalties in the
Middle Ages were not comanded by feudal overlords alone. Loyalty to
royal dynasties and to religious movements sometimes superceded
those born of feudal tenure and secret religious movements and
societies were no exception.
For all that some have sought to prove parallels between members of
the Neville family and characters in Malory's book, "Le Morte
D'Arthur", nevertheless the true models for his characters were
members of the Woodville or, Rivers family. His Sir Launcelot was
drawn largely from the life of Anthony Woodville. The joust before
King Arthur nearly replicated word for word and blow by blow
Anthony's joust before Edward IV against the Bastard of Burgundy.
The incident where ladies accosted Laucelot after church once, tying
a rose onto his thigh with a ribbon, was an actual event in
Anthony's life. Also, despite the fabrication that two monks
delivered Malory's ManuScripts from Newgate to Caxton Press, in fact
the publisher issued receipts for the MSs to Anthony Lord Scales,
their actual deliverer. Besides these, there exist notes from Queen
Elizabeth Woodville (Rivers) to Malory editting his original MS and
suggesting the deletion of multiple negation, which was done and
made a mark on the development of English grammar, just as she made
a less permanent mark on fashion when she changed the traditional
two-horned hennen (headdress) to a single horn. Elizabeth was
undoubtedly Malory's true inspiration for his Quenevere, as the
imitation of the founding of the Order of the Bath and the queen's
role in that procession, down to her blue dress, was followed
slavishly in the book for the founding of the Order of the Round Table.
Add to this that it was Anthony Woodville, Lord Rivers and Lord
Scales, who actually gave the order of knighthood to Sir Thomas
Malory ;and that, it was Richard Rivers (Anthony's younger brother
and eventual successor and heir) who was Malory's drinking buddy and
frequently gaoled in London Gaol with the aging author.
It was Jacquetta's children alone (and not the Nevilles) who
continued to visit the old man in prison to the end of his days and
who provided practical succour and help to him while there, and so
it is unlikely indeed that Malory was trying to immortalise the
Nevilles by his writing.
What is more, some knowledge of both genealogy and arcane lore are
necessary in order to appreciate the more subtle influence of
Jacquetta and her children on the author, who was indeed their
devotee in a very religious sense. Genealogy because, Jacquetta,
born about three hundred years after the First Crusade of 1099-1100,
was the direct descendant of all of the major players in the
Crusades. Not only representing the family lines but, of the major
players themselves. She was as near a direct descendant of Godfroi
de Bouillon and his brother Baudouin I as one could hope to find,
being directly descended from their adoptive heir, Baudouin II. Also
a direct, lineal descendant of Bohemond of Antioch, Conrad, Fulk and
Montferrat, the various queens of both Jerusalem and Cyprus
(sometimes by more than one line), the Comnenid princesses of
Byzantium including Anna Comnena credited with the first treatise on
the crusade and heraldry, Richard the Lion-Hearted (more than once)
and indeed every one of Eleanor of Aquitaine's sons as well as from
the French royal line, having Saint-King Louis, Eleanor's first
husband and her lover-uncle Raymond of Toulouse to boot. She also
descended directly from Hugh de Payen, Grand Master of the Templar
Order. In short, you could not find anyone in history with more
direct genealogical connexions to the major male members of the
patriarchal establishment in Christian Europe. But, there was also
the hidden, invisible female hierarchy and the occult Gnostic
tradition of the Goddess. Her grandmother was the Italian Duchess of
Apulia immediately south of Rome, and high priestess of the
Mysteries of Isis in Rome. This princess was also a close relative
of the Orsini popes who probably attended the Isis Mysteries.
Jacquetta was herself a Luxembourg, a cousin of the Holy Roman
(Germanic) Emperour Sigismundo and, as such, also a relative of the
Luxembourg emperour whom Dante exhorted to re-establish a Gnostic
Church in the West! Directly descended through Eleanor of
Aquitaine--several times over--as well as through Eleanor's uncle
Raymond, from the Counts of Toulouse, she was thus also from the
"uncrowned kings" of the Albigens movement, as well as the Counts
Comminges who built the Gnostic abbey in southern France, and thus a
close cousin many times over of Esclarmonde de Foix, high priestess
at Montsegur (Mont Salvasche) when it fell to papal troops (led by
yet another ancestor, Simon de Montfort!) in 1244.
Things less easily established are there to be looked for in those
three centuries of Jacqueline de Luxembourg's antecedents, already
so crowded with the men who ran Christendom: things relating only to
the Goddess cult and with survival of pagan female power in the
royal families of Europe, which are never salient in any
genealogical text, are her multiple descents from all of the various
manifestations of the Melusine. The official history of Luxembourg
traces the duchy to 963 AD and the Count of the Ardennes, but there
was a strong mediaeval legend of its foundation by the shapeshifting
mermaid or siren (sometimes a dragon!) Melusine, a late Mediaeval
manifestation of Aphrodite. Ditto the house of Lusignan in Poitou,
where the Mere Lucine or "Mother of Light" served that royal house
as a banshee famously heralding the approaching death of her
descendants for many centuries. And also the origin of the house of
Angeou (Angevins) where she turned into a dragon (in Poitou it was
usually a swan) and fled into the sky!
For those who doubt a literal interpretation of such manifestations
by divine, shapeshifting aliens, the only explanation can be
residual traces of the French fairy cult, of which Joan of Arc was
considered the last head or, incarnate "Maid" (Maiden Goddess). And,
for those, we have had since 1935 the monumental work of Katherine
Maltwood who flew over Glastonbury in Somerset in her biplane and
gathered photographic evidence of an ancient system of earthworks
which she herself termed, "The Glastonbury Temple of the Stars" but
which, interpretted in terms of the Rivers tradition and Malory's
'Le Morte', can only be one thing: the holy lake of the "Lady of the
Lake". Maltwood herself drew her parallels mainly from 'The High
History of the Holy Grail' but, an intimate knowledge of Malory and
of his patroness Jacquetta's genealogy can draw many more. Here, in
the centre of what was once an artificial lake ten miles across, was
an artificial island which Kate Maltwood herself termed a Giant
Effigy, shaped like a Dove and acknowledged to be a symbol of the
Sumerian goddess Semiramis or Shamuramat. Who else was this other
than the Melusine of Avalon herself?
Among those things to be looked for in Malory is the thread of the
"Holy Grail" or Sangreal. Jacquetta was (again) a direct descendant
of the Embriacci boys from Genoa who captured the holy grail at
Caesarea and deposited it in the Cathedral of San Lorenzo. Still
famous today, it was extremely well-known to Christian Europe within
the first three centuries of its display there. This is not a
connexion to be ignored any more than the other interpretation:
that, the Sangreal was a code word for "sang real" or royal blood.
Whether this was the descent from St. Odelia of the Heiligeburg at
Niedersheim and her kinsman Eticho or Adelrich of Arles (which
Jacquetta had, and directly too) or reference to the descent through
the Bouillons from Lohengrin the Swan-Knight of the Grail Castle
(himself a descendant of Sir Launcelot of Avalon, ninth generation
from Jesus Christ) she could lay claim to any of the relevant
descents and appertaining heritage.
Also not to be missed are things subtly implicit in Malory: the hand
holding the sword above the water. Too often over-interpretted, what
is salient is that this was the hand of an acquatic being--such as
Semiramis or Melusine--with the authority to bestow mortal kingship
upon an earthly man. That is so obvious and, too often ignored . She
was the Goddess. And this image, so often seen on covers of the
Morte during the past five centuries that it has been in print, is
an enactment of the glyph of Juno Lucina: to wit, an upright line
(representing the sword) crossed at its base by a shorter horizontal
line (the hand or wrist of the goddess) and at the top by crossed
rays representing light gleaming from off the sword (symbolising the
goddess of light).
The dragon imagery too, is often associated only with Uther and
Arthur's paternal descent, but, it has everything to do with the
Goddess of Avalon and the line of the Ladies of the Lake as well as
pagan, feminine-empowered religion before the christianisation of
Britain that was being finalised under Arthur. (Compare too,
contemporary survivals of local legend in the region of Cornwall,
that has it a mermaid came every Easter to a church Arthur attended
on one of the last remaining channels, to protest the draining of
the artificial lake!) Arthur's half-sister Morgainne le Fay (being
"fairy", as much a reference to the tradition in Britain as it was
to the cult of Diana at Domremy, Joan of Arc and Gilles de Rais).
There is the significant passage in the book wherein a lady riding a
serpent comes and is interpretted as the "old church" or Old
Religion and contrasted to the lady who comes riding a lion who is
interpretted as the "new church" or New Religion riding the Lion of
Judah. And the "Pentangle" shield, also associated with the older
cult, is the pagan pentacle, every bit as much as the Green Knight
was the Green Man or god of vegetation.
There is more knowledge of the tradition of the Lake and of "the
stars on the ground" than can be easily explained away by
familiarity with The High History. Malory includes Arthur's last
dream, in which, he is seated upon a throne which is mounted upon a
wheel, and, it is turned over causing Arthur to fall from the sky
into the Lake (whose Goddess and whose cult he has betrayed) to be
torn by the creatures of the Lake--i.e., the islands which are
shaped like like Giant Effigies of various creatures from ancient
religious traditions. There is a sensitivity to this matter that
could only have probably come from a female member of the Goddess
cult, very high placed in European royalty, and it was almost
certainly not the pious Cecily Neville!
Jacquetta was thrice-accused and thrice-acquitted of charges of
witchcraft during her lifetime, and finally attainted after her
death together with the Woodville children, by a Parliament of
Richard III in 1483. There is a now little-remembered story of her
daughter's coronation as Queen Elizabeth Woodville in Westminster
Abbey, at which Jacquetta's brother Jean de Luxembourg (betrayer of
Joan of Arc) arrived at the abbey en masse with her Luxembourg
kindred: they had re-painted their shields to represent the young
queen as the melusine and there were immediately thereupon whispers
of "witchcraft" among the congregation of English present. (This was
tantamount to a visual accusation.) Wherefore Anthony Woodville,
Lord Scales drew his sword and charged the entire Luxembourg host,
driving them back single-handedly all the way to Ship's Green where,
before he would allow them to re-embark, he jousted and unhorsed
each Luxemburg knight, afterwards challenging each man to
single-combat upon the ground until he had bescratched every
Melusine-painted shield! Thus he cleared his sisters and mother of a
charge of witchcraft by combat. But, the Rivers family connexions to
the Gnosis and to the Witch-cult of Western Europe were too strong
to hold off forever revelation.
Dynasty and House of Antioch-Lusignan-
Rivers
Thomas Malory was a young English knight garrisoned at the Castle of
Rouen during the Occupation known as "Lancastrian France". He was
approximately of an age with both Joan of Arc and Jacquetta duchess
of Bedford, or, approximately nineteen. He had to watch the
execution by burning of Joan of Arc in the castle courtyard at Rouen
together with the young French duchess and became her lifelong
devotee. Some historians and writers have made much of his feudal
connexions to the Nevilles ( he held his land in fee from them) but
have ignored evidence of his other loyalties. Loyalties in the
Middle Ages were not comanded by feudal overlords alone. Loyalty to
royal dynasties and to religious movements sometimes superceded
those born of feudal tenure and secret religious movements and
societies were no exception.
For all that some have sought to prove parallels between members of
the Neville family and characters in Malory's book, "Le Morte
D'Arthur", nevertheless the true models for his characters were
members of the Woodville or, Rivers family. His Sir Launcelot was
drawn largely from the life of Anthony Woodville. The joust before
King Arthur nearly replicated word for word and blow by blow
Anthony's joust before Edward IV against the Bastard of Burgundy.
The incident where ladies accosted Laucelot after church once, tying
a rose onto his thigh with a ribbon, was an actual event in
Anthony's life. Also, despite the fabrication that two monks
delivered Malory's ManuScripts from Newgate to Caxton Press, in fact
the publisher issued receipts for the MSs to Anthony Lord Scales,
their actual deliverer. Besides these, there exist notes from Queen
Elizabeth Woodville (Rivers) to Malory editting his original MS and
suggesting the deletion of multiple negation, which was done and
made a mark on the development of English grammar, just as she made
a less permanent mark on fashion when she changed the traditional
two-horned hennen (headdress) to a single horn. Elizabeth was
undoubtedly Malory's true inspiration for his Quenevere, as the
imitation of the founding of the Order of the Bath and the queen's
role in that procession, down to her blue dress, was followed
slavishly in the book for the founding of the Order of the Round Table.
Add to this that it was Anthony Woodville, Lord Rivers and Lord
Scales, who actually gave the order of knighthood to Sir Thomas
Malory ;and that, it was Richard Rivers (Anthony's younger brother
and eventual successor and heir) who was Malory's drinking buddy and
frequently gaoled in London Gaol with the aging author.
It was Jacquetta's children alone (and not the Nevilles) who
continued to visit the old man in prison to the end of his days and
who provided practical succour and help to him while there, and so
it is unlikely indeed that Malory was trying to immortalise the
Nevilles by his writing.
What is more, some knowledge of both genealogy and arcane lore are
necessary in order to appreciate the more subtle influence of
Jacquetta and her children on the author, who was indeed their
devotee in a very religious sense. Genealogy because, Jacquetta,
born about three hundred years after the First Crusade of 1099-1100,
was the direct descendant of all of the major players in the
Crusades. Not only representing the family lines but, of the major
players themselves. She was as near a direct descendant of Godfroi
de Bouillon and his brother Baudouin I as one could hope to find,
being directly descended from their adoptive heir, Baudouin II. Also
a direct, lineal descendant of Bohemond of Antioch, Conrad, Fulk and
Montferrat, the various queens of both Jerusalem and Cyprus
(sometimes by more than one line), the Comnenid princesses of
Byzantium including Anna Comnena credited with the first treatise on
the crusade and heraldry, Richard the Lion-Hearted (more than once)
and indeed every one of Eleanor of Aquitaine's sons as well as from
the French royal line, having Saint-King Louis, Eleanor's first
husband and her lover-uncle Raymond of Toulouse to boot. She also
descended directly from Hugh de Payen, Grand Master of the Templar
Order. In short, you could not find anyone in history with more
direct genealogical connexions to the major male members of the
patriarchal establishment in Christian Europe. But, there was also
the hidden, invisible female hierarchy and the occult Gnostic
tradition of the Goddess. Her grandmother was the Italian Duchess of
Apulia immediately south of Rome, and high priestess of the
Mysteries of Isis in Rome. This princess was also a close relative
of the Orsini popes who probably attended the Isis Mysteries.
Jacquetta was herself a Luxembourg, a cousin of the Holy Roman
(Germanic) Emperour Sigismundo and, as such, also a relative of the
Luxembourg emperour whom Dante exhorted to re-establish a Gnostic
Church in the West! Directly descended through Eleanor of
Aquitaine--several times over--as well as through Eleanor's uncle
Raymond, from the Counts of Toulouse, she was thus also from the
"uncrowned kings" of the Albigens movement, as well as the Counts
Comminges who built the Gnostic abbey in southern France, and thus a
close cousin many times over of Esclarmonde de Foix, high priestess
at Montsegur (Mont Salvasche) when it fell to papal troops (led by
yet another ancestor, Simon de Montfort!) in 1244.
Things less easily established are there to be looked for in those
three centuries of Jacqueline de Luxembourg's antecedents, already
so crowded with the men who ran Christendom: things relating only to
the Goddess cult and with survival of pagan female power in the
royal families of Europe, which are never salient in any
genealogical text, are her multiple descents from all of the various
manifestations of the Melusine. The official history of Luxembourg
traces the duchy to 963 AD and the Count of the Ardennes, but there
was a strong mediaeval legend of its foundation by the shapeshifting
mermaid or siren (sometimes a dragon!) Melusine, a late Mediaeval
manifestation of Aphrodite. Ditto the house of Lusignan in Poitou,
where the Mere Lucine or "Mother of Light" served that royal house
as a banshee famously heralding the approaching death of her
descendants for many centuries. And also the origin of the house of
Angeou (Angevins) where she turned into a dragon (in Poitou it was
usually a swan) and fled into the sky!
For those who doubt a literal interpretation of such manifestations
by divine, shapeshifting aliens, the only explanation can be
residual traces of the French fairy cult, of which Joan of Arc was
considered the last head or, incarnate "Maid" (Maiden Goddess). And,
for those, we have had since 1935 the monumental work of Katherine
Maltwood who flew over Glastonbury in Somerset in her biplane and
gathered photographic evidence of an ancient system of earthworks
which she herself termed, "The Glastonbury Temple of the Stars" but
which, interpretted in terms of the Rivers tradition and Malory's
'Le Morte', can only be one thing: the holy lake of the "Lady of the
Lake". Maltwood herself drew her parallels mainly from 'The High
History of the Holy Grail' but, an intimate knowledge of Malory and
of his patroness Jacquetta's genealogy can draw many more. Here, in
the centre of what was once an artificial lake ten miles across, was
an artificial island which Kate Maltwood herself termed a Giant
Effigy, shaped like a Dove and acknowledged to be a symbol of the
Sumerian goddess Semiramis or Shamuramat. Who else was this other
than the Melusine of Avalon herself?
Among those things to be looked for in Malory is the thread of the
"Holy Grail" or Sangreal. Jacquetta was (again) a direct descendant
of the Embriacci boys from Genoa who captured the holy grail at
Caesarea and deposited it in the Cathedral of San Lorenzo. Still
famous today, it was extremely well-known to Christian Europe within
the first three centuries of its display there. This is not a
connexion to be ignored any more than the other interpretation:
that, the Sangreal was a code word for "sang real" or royal blood.
Whether this was the descent from St. Odelia of the Heiligeburg at
Niedersheim and her kinsman Eticho or Adelrich of Arles (which
Jacquetta had, and directly too) or reference to the descent through
the Bouillons from Lohengrin the Swan-Knight of the Grail Castle
(himself a descendant of Sir Launcelot of Avalon, ninth generation
from Jesus Christ) she could lay claim to any of the relevant
descents and appertaining heritage.
Also not to be missed are things subtly implicit in Malory: the hand
holding the sword above the water. Too often over-interpretted, what
is salient is that this was the hand of an acquatic being--such as
Semiramis or Melusine--with the authority to bestow mortal kingship
upon an earthly man. That is so obvious and, too often ignored . She
was the Goddess. And this image, so often seen on covers of the
Morte during the past five centuries that it has been in print, is
an enactment of the glyph of Juno Lucina: to wit, an upright line
(representing the sword) crossed at its base by a shorter horizontal
line (the hand or wrist of the goddess) and at the top by crossed
rays representing light gleaming from off the sword (symbolising the
goddess of light).
The dragon imagery too, is often associated only with Uther and
Arthur's paternal descent, but, it has everything to do with the
Goddess of Avalon and the line of the Ladies of the Lake as well as
pagan, feminine-empowered religion before the christianisation of
Britain that was being finalised under Arthur. (Compare too,
contemporary survivals of local legend in the region of Cornwall,
that has it a mermaid came every Easter to a church Arthur attended
on one of the last remaining channels, to protest the draining of
the artificial lake!) Arthur's half-sister Morgainne le Fay (being
"fairy", as much a reference to the tradition in Britain as it was
to the cult of Diana at Domremy, Joan of Arc and Gilles de Rais).
There is the significant passage in the book wherein a lady riding a
serpent comes and is interpretted as the "old church" or Old
Religion and contrasted to the lady who comes riding a lion who is
interpretted as the "new church" or New Religion riding the Lion of
Judah. And the "Pentangle" shield, also associated with the older
cult, is the pagan pentacle, every bit as much as the Green Knight
was the Green Man or god of vegetation.
There is more knowledge of the tradition of the Lake and of "the
stars on the ground" than can be easily explained away by
familiarity with The High History. Malory includes Arthur's last
dream, in which, he is seated upon a throne which is mounted upon a
wheel, and, it is turned over causing Arthur to fall from the sky
into the Lake (whose Goddess and whose cult he has betrayed) to be
torn by the creatures of the Lake--i.e., the islands which are
shaped like like Giant Effigies of various creatures from ancient
religious traditions. There is a sensitivity to this matter that
could only have probably come from a female member of the Goddess
cult, very high placed in European royalty, and it was almost
certainly not the pious Cecily Neville!
Jacquetta was thrice-accused and thrice-acquitted of charges of
witchcraft during her lifetime, and finally attainted after her
death together with the Woodville children, by a Parliament of
Richard III in 1483. There is a now little-remembered story of her
daughter's coronation as Queen Elizabeth Woodville in Westminster
Abbey, at which Jacquetta's brother Jean de Luxembourg (betrayer of
Joan of Arc) arrived at the abbey en masse with her Luxembourg
kindred: they had re-painted their shields to represent the young
queen as the melusine and there were immediately thereupon whispers
of "witchcraft" among the congregation of English present. (This was
tantamount to a visual accusation.) Wherefore Anthony Woodville,
Lord Scales drew his sword and charged the entire Luxembourg host,
driving them back single-handedly all the way to Ship's Green where,
before he would allow them to re-embark, he jousted and unhorsed
each Luxemburg knight, afterwards challenging each man to
single-combat upon the ground until he had bescratched every
Melusine-painted shield! Thus he cleared his sisters and mother of a
charge of witchcraft by combat. But, the Rivers family connexions to
the Gnosis and to the Witch-cult of Western Europe were too strong
to hold off forever revelation.
Dynasty and House of Antioch-Lusignan-
Rivers
Re: Malory
2006-11-27 21:16:41
Bill:
Genealogy because, Jacquetta, born about three hundred years
after the First Crusade of 1099-1100, was the direct descendant of all
of the major players in the Crusades. Not only representing the family
lines but, of the major players themselves. She was as near a direct
descendant of Godfroi de Bouillon and his brother Baudouin I as one
could hope to find, being directly descended from their adoptive heir,
Baudouin II. Also a direct, lineal descendant of Bohemond of Antioch,
Conrad, Fulk and Montferrat, the various queens of both Jerusalem and
Cyprus (sometimes by more than one line), the Comnenid princesses of
Byzantium including Anna Comnena credited with the first treatise on the
crusade and heraldry, Richard the Lion-Hearted (more than once) and
indeed every one of Eleanor of Aquitaine's sons as well as from the
French royal line, having Saint-King Louis, Eleanor's first husband and
her lover-uncle Raymond of Toulouse to boot. She also descended
directly from Hugh de Payen, Grand Master of the Templar Order. In
short, you could not find anyone in history with more direct
genealogical connexions to the major male members of the patriarchal
establishment in Christian Europe. But, there was also the hidden,
invisible female hierarchy and the occult Gnostic tradition of the
Goddess. Her grandmother was the Italian Duchess of Apulia immediately
south of Rome, and high priestess of the Mysteries of Isis in Rome.
This princess was also a close relative of the Orsini popes who probably
attended the Isis Mysteries.
Ann:
Is the source willing to Document or at least Expand on how
Jacquetta was descended from ALL Eleanor's sons? I would be fascinated
to learn her descent from Eleanor's sons Henry, Geoffrey and Richard --
none of whom left any grandchildren, surely?
L.P.H.,
Ann
axsc@...
http://mzbworks.home.att.net/ann.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Genealogy because, Jacquetta, born about three hundred years
after the First Crusade of 1099-1100, was the direct descendant of all
of the major players in the Crusades. Not only representing the family
lines but, of the major players themselves. She was as near a direct
descendant of Godfroi de Bouillon and his brother Baudouin I as one
could hope to find, being directly descended from their adoptive heir,
Baudouin II. Also a direct, lineal descendant of Bohemond of Antioch,
Conrad, Fulk and Montferrat, the various queens of both Jerusalem and
Cyprus (sometimes by more than one line), the Comnenid princesses of
Byzantium including Anna Comnena credited with the first treatise on the
crusade and heraldry, Richard the Lion-Hearted (more than once) and
indeed every one of Eleanor of Aquitaine's sons as well as from the
French royal line, having Saint-King Louis, Eleanor's first husband and
her lover-uncle Raymond of Toulouse to boot. She also descended
directly from Hugh de Payen, Grand Master of the Templar Order. In
short, you could not find anyone in history with more direct
genealogical connexions to the major male members of the patriarchal
establishment in Christian Europe. But, there was also the hidden,
invisible female hierarchy and the occult Gnostic tradition of the
Goddess. Her grandmother was the Italian Duchess of Apulia immediately
south of Rome, and high priestess of the Mysteries of Isis in Rome.
This princess was also a close relative of the Orsini popes who probably
attended the Isis Mysteries.
Ann:
Is the source willing to Document or at least Expand on how
Jacquetta was descended from ALL Eleanor's sons? I would be fascinated
to learn her descent from Eleanor's sons Henry, Geoffrey and Richard --
none of whom left any grandchildren, surely?
L.P.H.,
Ann
axsc@...
http://mzbworks.home.att.net/ann.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: Malory
2006-11-28 02:15:51
There are numerous iterations of the Melusine story, and some see
allusions to the story of Lilith. Pretty much everyone who is anyone is
descended from a Melusine-like character. Likewise several cities are
located on a site where somebody of note saw a magic stag.
I think I agree with Roslyn that Jaquetta and her family were involved
in what we would term the occult arts. Hughes has written on this
subject. What I'd like to know is where the person who submitted the
post obtained information re: who was involved in the cult of Isis.
Interesting stuff, and not outside the realm of possibility. Still, I
need the attribution.
Sharp, Ann (GT&D) wrote:
>
> Bill:
>
> Genealogy because, Jacquetta, born about three hundred years
> after the First Crusade of 1099-1100, was the direct descendant of all
> of the major players in the Crusades. Not only representing the family
> lines but, of the major players themselves. She was as near a direct
> descendant of Godfroi de Bouillon and his brother Baudouin I as one
> could hope to find, being directly descended from their adoptive heir,
> Baudouin II. Also a direct, lineal descendant of Bohemond of Antioch,
> Conrad, Fulk and Montferrat, the various queens of both Jerusalem and
> Cyprus (sometimes by more than one line), the Comnenid princesses of
> Byzantium including Anna Comnena credited with the first treatise on the
> crusade and heraldry, Richard the Lion-Hearted (more than once) and
> indeed every one of Eleanor of Aquitaine's sons as well as from the
> French royal line, having Saint-King Louis, Eleanor's first husband and
> her lover-uncle Raymond of Toulouse to boot. She also descended
> directly from Hugh de Payen, Grand Master of the Templar Order. In
> short, you could not find anyone in history with more direct
> genealogical connexions to the major male members of the patriarchal
> establishment in Christian Europe. But, there was also the hidden,
> invisible female hierarchy and the occult Gnostic tradition of the
> Goddess. Her grandmother was the Italian Duchess of Apulia immediately
> south of Rome, and high priestess of the Mysteries of Isis in Rome.
> This princess was also a close relative of the Orsini popes who probably
> attended the Isis Mysteries.
>
> Ann:
> Is the source willing to Document or at least Expand on how
> Jacquetta was descended from ALL Eleanor's sons? I would be fascinated
> to learn her descent from Eleanor's sons Henry, Geoffrey and Richard --
> none of whom left any grandchildren, surely?
>
> L.P.H.,
>
> Ann
> axsc@... <mailto:axsc%40pge.com>
> http://mzbworks.home.att.net/ann.htm
> <http://mzbworks.home.att.net/ann.htm>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
allusions to the story of Lilith. Pretty much everyone who is anyone is
descended from a Melusine-like character. Likewise several cities are
located on a site where somebody of note saw a magic stag.
I think I agree with Roslyn that Jaquetta and her family were involved
in what we would term the occult arts. Hughes has written on this
subject. What I'd like to know is where the person who submitted the
post obtained information re: who was involved in the cult of Isis.
Interesting stuff, and not outside the realm of possibility. Still, I
need the attribution.
Sharp, Ann (GT&D) wrote:
>
> Bill:
>
> Genealogy because, Jacquetta, born about three hundred years
> after the First Crusade of 1099-1100, was the direct descendant of all
> of the major players in the Crusades. Not only representing the family
> lines but, of the major players themselves. She was as near a direct
> descendant of Godfroi de Bouillon and his brother Baudouin I as one
> could hope to find, being directly descended from their adoptive heir,
> Baudouin II. Also a direct, lineal descendant of Bohemond of Antioch,
> Conrad, Fulk and Montferrat, the various queens of both Jerusalem and
> Cyprus (sometimes by more than one line), the Comnenid princesses of
> Byzantium including Anna Comnena credited with the first treatise on the
> crusade and heraldry, Richard the Lion-Hearted (more than once) and
> indeed every one of Eleanor of Aquitaine's sons as well as from the
> French royal line, having Saint-King Louis, Eleanor's first husband and
> her lover-uncle Raymond of Toulouse to boot. She also descended
> directly from Hugh de Payen, Grand Master of the Templar Order. In
> short, you could not find anyone in history with more direct
> genealogical connexions to the major male members of the patriarchal
> establishment in Christian Europe. But, there was also the hidden,
> invisible female hierarchy and the occult Gnostic tradition of the
> Goddess. Her grandmother was the Italian Duchess of Apulia immediately
> south of Rome, and high priestess of the Mysteries of Isis in Rome.
> This princess was also a close relative of the Orsini popes who probably
> attended the Isis Mysteries.
>
> Ann:
> Is the source willing to Document or at least Expand on how
> Jacquetta was descended from ALL Eleanor's sons? I would be fascinated
> to learn her descent from Eleanor's sons Henry, Geoffrey and Richard --
> none of whom left any grandchildren, surely?
>
> L.P.H.,
>
> Ann
> axsc@... <mailto:axsc%40pge.com>
> http://mzbworks.home.att.net/ann.htm
> <http://mzbworks.home.att.net/ann.htm>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>