"A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
"A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
2007-03-22 15:23:00
I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and tell
you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by C.J.
Sansom.
"Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the main
character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York where an
old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing windows
from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken stained
glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and poor
Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some possibly
important papers have been nicked.
Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is referred to
as "the Mouldwarp".
"Meek"
you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by C.J.
Sansom.
"Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the main
character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York where an
old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing windows
from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken stained
glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and poor
Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some possibly
important papers have been nicked.
Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is referred to
as "the Mouldwarp".
"Meek"
Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
2007-03-22 17:11:42
--- In , "L. Miller"
<pvtmeek@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
tell
> you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by C.J.
> Sansom.
> "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the main
> character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York where
an
> old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
windows
> from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken stained
> glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
poor
> Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some possibly
> important papers have been nicked.
> Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is referred
to
> as "the Mouldwarp".
>
> "Meek"
>
Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books. I
have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I enjoyed
both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a one
of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material from
the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books by
Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of the
Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft(so
called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
Peter
<pvtmeek@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
tell
> you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by C.J.
> Sansom.
> "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the main
> character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York where
an
> old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
windows
> from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken stained
> glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
poor
> Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some possibly
> important papers have been nicked.
> Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is referred
to
> as "the Mouldwarp".
>
> "Meek"
>
Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books. I
have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I enjoyed
both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a one
of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material from
the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books by
Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of the
Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft(so
called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
Peter
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
2007-03-22 19:01:17
you might enjoy this on line book/essay that refers to the mouldwarp prophecy.
http://www.red4.co.uk/ebooks/trueglyndwr.htm
more ebooks from the same site
http://vwales.co.uk/ebooks.htm
and the homepage
http://vwales.co.uk/index.htm
enjoy
roslyn
"L. Miller" <pvtmeek@...> wrote:
I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and tell
you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by C.J.
Sansom.
"Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the main
character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York where an
old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing windows
from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken stained
glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and poor
Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some possibly
important papers have been nicked.
Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is referred to
as "the Mouldwarp".
"Meek"
http://www.red4.co.uk/ebooks/trueglyndwr.htm
more ebooks from the same site
http://vwales.co.uk/ebooks.htm
and the homepage
http://vwales.co.uk/index.htm
enjoy
roslyn
"L. Miller" <pvtmeek@...> wrote:
I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and tell
you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by C.J.
Sansom.
"Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the main
character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York where an
old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing windows
from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken stained
glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and poor
Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some possibly
important papers have been nicked.
Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is referred to
as "the Mouldwarp".
"Meek"
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly O
2007-03-22 20:44:01
thanks for sharing this information -- I am always
looking for new books/authors to read!
Rene'
looking for new books/authors to read!
Rene'
Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
2007-03-23 22:23:25
--- In , "p1415moore2"
<p1415moore2@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "L. Miller"
> <pvtmeek@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
> tell
> > you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by
C.J.
> > Sansom.
> > "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> > turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the
main
> > character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> > Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York
where
> an
> > old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
> windows
> > from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken
stained
> > glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> > I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
> poor
> > Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some
possibly
> > important papers have been nicked.
> > Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is
referred
> to
> > as "the Mouldwarp".
> >
> > "Meek"
> >
> Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books. I
> have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I enjoyed
> both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a
one
> of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material
from
> the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books by
> Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
> I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of
the
> Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
> battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft(so
> called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
>
> Peter
>
Just out of interest, which part of Suffolk are you from and are you
a Society member?
<p1415moore2@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "L. Miller"
> <pvtmeek@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
> tell
> > you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by
C.J.
> > Sansom.
> > "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> > turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the
main
> > character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> > Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York
where
> an
> > old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
> windows
> > from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken
stained
> > glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> > I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
> poor
> > Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some
possibly
> > important papers have been nicked.
> > Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is
referred
> to
> > as "the Mouldwarp".
> >
> > "Meek"
> >
> Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books. I
> have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I enjoyed
> both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a
one
> of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material
from
> the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books by
> Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
> I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of
the
> Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
> battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft(so
> called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
>
> Peter
>
Just out of interest, which part of Suffolk are you from and are you
a Society member?
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly O
2007-03-24 19:38:04
Stephen,
I am in Kent. Near to Ashford. But travel around during the reenacting year for Medieval and in Suffolk for Kentwell in June/July every year.
I joined the forum but have yet to join the RIII society, something I have been meaning to rectify as I am an Ardent Yorkist and think Richard should have made a better king than any other of the period including Edward!
Peter
Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
--- In , "p1415moore2"
<p1415moore2@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "L. Miller"
> <pvtmeek@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
> tell
> > you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by
C.J.
> > Sansom.
> > "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> > turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the
main
> > character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> > Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York
where
> an
> > old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
> windows
> > from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken
stained
> > glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> > I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
> poor
> > Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some
possibly
> > important papers have been nicked.
> > Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is
referred
> to
> > as "the Mouldwarp".
> >
> > "Meek"
> >
> Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books. I
> have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I enjoyed
> both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a
one
> of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material
from
> the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books by
> Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
> I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of
the
> Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
> battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft(so
> called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
>
> Peter
>
Just out of interest, which part of Suffolk are you from and are you
a Society member?
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I am in Kent. Near to Ashford. But travel around during the reenacting year for Medieval and in Suffolk for Kentwell in June/July every year.
I joined the forum but have yet to join the RIII society, something I have been meaning to rectify as I am an Ardent Yorkist and think Richard should have made a better king than any other of the period including Edward!
Peter
Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
--- In , "p1415moore2"
<p1415moore2@...> wrote:
>
> --- In , "L. Miller"
> <pvtmeek@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
> tell
> > you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by
C.J.
> > Sansom.
> > "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> > turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the
main
> > character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> > Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York
where
> an
> > old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
> windows
> > from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken
stained
> > glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> > I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
> poor
> > Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some
possibly
> > important papers have been nicked.
> > Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is
referred
> to
> > as "the Mouldwarp".
> >
> > "Meek"
> >
> Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books. I
> have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I enjoyed
> both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a
one
> of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material
from
> the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books by
> Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
> I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of
the
> Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
> battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft(so
> called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
>
> Peter
>
Just out of interest, which part of Suffolk are you from and are you
a Society member?
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly O
2007-03-24 21:35:55
UK-based Forumeers may like to note that 'Sovereign' is currently on sale in Sainsbury's at £4.99, as compared with the cover price of £7.99. Having lashed out on a copy while doing my food shopping, I'll tell you what I think of it when I've had a chance to read it.
Ann
Ann
[Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
2007-03-24 21:41:46
--- In , Peter Moore
<p1415moore2@...> wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> I am in Kent. Near to Ashford. But travel around during the
reenacting year for Medieval and in Suffolk for Kentwell in June/July
every year.
> I joined the forum but have yet to join the RIII society,
something I have been meaning to rectify as I am an Ardent Yorkist
and think Richard should have made a better king than any other of
the period including Edward!
>
> Peter
>
> Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
> --- In
, "p1415moore2"
> <p1415moore2@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In , "L. Miller"
> > <pvtmeek@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
> > tell
> > > you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by
> C.J.
> > > Sansom.
> > > "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> > > turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the
> main
> > > character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> > > Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York
> where
> > an
> > > old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
> > windows
> > > from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken
> stained
> > > glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> > > I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
> > poor
> > > Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some
> possibly
> > > important papers have been nicked.
> > > Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is
> referred
> > to
> > > as "the Mouldwarp".
> > >
> > > "Meek"
> > >
> > Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books.
I
> > have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I
enjoyed
> > both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a
> one
> > of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material
> from
> > the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books
by
> > Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
> > I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of
> the
> > Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
> > battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft
(so
> > called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
> >
> > Peter
> >
> Just out of interest, which part of Suffolk are you from and are
you
> a Society member?
>
> I was curious because the Society has a lot of national and local
events, some of which are held in Suffolk and North Essex.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
<p1415moore2@...> wrote:
>
> Stephen,
>
> I am in Kent. Near to Ashford. But travel around during the
reenacting year for Medieval and in Suffolk for Kentwell in June/July
every year.
> I joined the forum but have yet to join the RIII society,
something I have been meaning to rectify as I am an Ardent Yorkist
and think Richard should have made a better king than any other of
the period including Edward!
>
> Peter
>
> Stephen Lark <stephenmlark@...> wrote:
> --- In
, "p1415moore2"
> <p1415moore2@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In , "L. Miller"
> > <pvtmeek@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'll push the well-endowed titled ladies to the background and
> > tell
> > > you of some excellent historical fiction/mysteries written by
> C.J.
> > > Sansom.
> > > "Dissolution", "Dark Fire" and the newest "Sovereign" are page-
> > > turners of the first class that take place in 1530's with the
> main
> > > character being that rarer avis, an honest lawyer named Matthew
> > > Shardlake. The newest book in the series takes place in York
> where
> > an
> > > old glazier has met with an unfortunate accident while removing
> > windows
> > > from a defunct monastary and is impaled on shards of broken
> stained
> > > glass---one of his last words is "Blaybourne" . . .
> > > I won't tell you more because I'm only up to chapter 12 and
> > poor
> > > Master Shardlake has just been conked on the head and some
> possibly
> > > important papers have been nicked.
> > > Oh, and you've got to like a book where Henry VIII is
> referred
> > to
> > > as "the Mouldwarp".
> > >
> > > "Meek"
> > >
> > Hello, I saw your mention of C J Sansom and the excellent books.
I
> > have just started Soveriegn today expecting a good read. I
enjoyed
> > both Master Shardlake adventures in the previous 2 books. I am a
> one
> > of the Kentwell reenactors in Suffolk, England, so any material
> from
> > the 'Tudor' period is always interesting. I also read some books
by
> > Patricia Finney who writes from the later Elizabthan period.
> > I am always looking for material on Tudor and the earlier 'War of
> the
> > Roses' period as a also belong to the MSS reenacting 15th century
> > battles etc. In the MSS my character in the Yorkist John Tiptoft
(so
> > called by the Tudors, 'Butcher of England' Earl of Worcester).
> >
> > Peter
> >
> Just out of interest, which part of Suffolk are you from and are
you
> a Society member?
>
> I was curious because the Society has a lot of national and local
events, some of which are held in Suffolk and North Essex.
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
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>
>
>
[Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly OT)
2007-03-24 21:59:19
If you've liked the other two books in this series, then you'll like
this one---I find it hard to put down--got in two chapters early this
morning and one during my lunch break, so I'm now smack in the middle
of the story and poor Matthew is up to his neck in it. The author does
acknowledge the Richard III Society in his "historical notes" section
at the back of the book.
Should they ever adapt these for TV, I think that Ian Hart would
make a very good Matthew Shardlake.
"Meek"(lost in a good book)
>
> UK-based Forumeers may like to note that 'Sovereign' is currently on
sale in Sainsbury's at £4.99, as compared with the cover price of
£7.99. Having lashed out on a copy while doing my food shopping, I'll
tell you what I think of it when I've had a chance to read it.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
this one---I find it hard to put down--got in two chapters early this
morning and one during my lunch break, so I'm now smack in the middle
of the story and poor Matthew is up to his neck in it. The author does
acknowledge the Richard III Society in his "historical notes" section
at the back of the book.
Should they ever adapt these for TV, I think that Ian Hart would
make a very good Matthew Shardlake.
"Meek"(lost in a good book)
>
> UK-based Forumeers may like to note that 'Sovereign' is currently on
sale in Sainsbury's at £4.99, as compared with the cover price of
£7.99. Having lashed out on a copy while doing my food shopping, I'll
tell you what I think of it when I've had a chance to read it.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly O
2007-03-25 20:51:49
Greetings,
Peter, if I may, in which events will you be participating during June?
Regards,
Virginia
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Peter, if I may, in which events will you be participating during June?
Regards,
Virginia
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly O
2007-03-26 12:35:20
Virgina,
I will be at the MSS event in Weald country park 16/17th June and from 23rd June at Kentwell for Tudor 1584 eventfor a week.
Or do you refer to RIII society events?
Peter
fairerichard3@... wrote:
Greetings,
Peter, if I may, in which events will you be participating during June?
Regards,
Virginia
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I will be at the MSS event in Weald country park 16/17th June and from 23rd June at Kentwell for Tudor 1584 eventfor a week.
Or do you refer to RIII society events?
Peter
fairerichard3@... wrote:
Greetings,
Peter, if I may, in which events will you be participating during June?
Regards,
Virginia
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Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Re: "A Ripper of a Read"(slightly O
2007-03-27 04:34:33
Hi Peter,
Thank you for the information. Yes, those and RIII Society events, if you
don't mind.
Thanks so much,
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Opinion on a Book
2007-04-09 16:51:29
I just bought "Portrait of an Unknown Woman" by Vanora Bennett regardign the More family portrait. I was curious of what other member's opinions are...or did I already miss a discussion??!
thanks-
Edie
thanks-
Edie
Re: Opinion on a Book
2007-04-09 21:30:55
--- In , Edie Hopkins
<ediehop@...> wrote:
>
> I just bought "Portrait of an Unknown Woman" by Vanora Bennett
regardign the More family portrait. I was curious of what other
member's opinions are...or did I already miss a discussion??!
We haven't discussed it, that I rcall, and I'd like to. I've always
found that picture intriguing. It's just the sketch, for the now-lost
finished painting done by Hans Holbein the Younger. More made some
annotations on it and sent it back. He identified each person and gave
his or her age...why he thought the ages were important I'm not sure,
but it's useful information.
I find it most intriguing that the figure that dominates the group is
not More himself, but his fool, Henry Patenson, who resembles Henry
VIII in appearance, dress, and pose...except that Henry VIII was still
a young man when the sketch was done, and would not look like that for
another 20 years or so.
Katy
<ediehop@...> wrote:
>
> I just bought "Portrait of an Unknown Woman" by Vanora Bennett
regardign the More family portrait. I was curious of what other
member's opinions are...or did I already miss a discussion??!
We haven't discussed it, that I rcall, and I'd like to. I've always
found that picture intriguing. It's just the sketch, for the now-lost
finished painting done by Hans Holbein the Younger. More made some
annotations on it and sent it back. He identified each person and gave
his or her age...why he thought the ages were important I'm not sure,
but it's useful information.
I find it most intriguing that the figure that dominates the group is
not More himself, but his fool, Henry Patenson, who resembles Henry
VIII in appearance, dress, and pose...except that Henry VIII was still
a young man when the sketch was done, and would not look like that for
another 20 years or so.
Katy
Re: Opinion on a Book
2007-04-12 03:04:50
I haven't read it yet but did see it in the local bookstore; I
believe this is the author's first novel. Will have to go back and
thumb through it to see if it looks interesting, or better yet, maybe
the library where I work will add it to the collection then I can
read it for free.
"Meek"
>
> I just bought "Portrait of an Unknown Woman" by Vanora Bennett
regardign the More family portrait. I was curious of what other
member's opinions are...or did I already miss a discussion??!
>
> thanks-
> Edie
>
>
>
>
believe this is the author's first novel. Will have to go back and
thumb through it to see if it looks interesting, or better yet, maybe
the library where I work will add it to the collection then I can
read it for free.
"Meek"
>
> I just bought "Portrait of an Unknown Woman" by Vanora Bennett
regardign the More family portrait. I was curious of what other
member's opinions are...or did I already miss a discussion??!
>
> thanks-
> Edie
>
>
>
>
Re: Opinion on a Book
2007-04-12 14:23:35
Hello all,
Is this the same portrait by Holbein that Jack Leslau thought contained
hidden messages about the survival of "the Princes"?
If so, Mr. Holbein was certainly a busy fellow gathering all this esoteric
knowledge. It's a wonder he had time to paint!!
I realize artists back then (and maybe even now) were sometimes agents as
well as painters but this work of art has been
laden with all sorts of hidden meanings. I am intrigued to read this latest
book on the subject.
Janet T.
Janet M. Trimbath
Is this the same portrait by Holbein that Jack Leslau thought contained
hidden messages about the survival of "the Princes"?
If so, Mr. Holbein was certainly a busy fellow gathering all this esoteric
knowledge. It's a wonder he had time to paint!!
I realize artists back then (and maybe even now) were sometimes agents as
well as painters but this work of art has been
laden with all sorts of hidden meanings. I am intrigued to read this latest
book on the subject.
Janet T.
Janet M. Trimbath
Re: Opinion on a Book
2007-04-13 01:41:55
--- In , "Janet T."
<forevere@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Is this the same portrait by Holbein that Jack Leslau thought
contained
> hidden messages about the survival of "the Princes"?
Well. sort of. I haven't read Mr Leslau's work, but he may have
been expounding on a later rendition of the More family portrait, in
which one or, in another case, two figures have been added, leaning n
a doorway and visible in another room.
Could someone who has read Leslau's theory set it forth here for us?
>
> If so, Mr. Holbein was certainly a busy fellow gathering all this
esoteric
> knowledge. It's a wonder he had time to paint!!
>
> I realize artists back then (and maybe even now) were sometimes
agents as
> well as painters but this work of art has been
>
> laden with all sorts of hidden meanings. I am intrigued to read
this latest
> book on the subject.
There definitely is symbolism in the sketch, and presumably in the
now-lost painting. Symbols, if not symbolism. There is a clock on
the wall (with only one hand, which is not symbolic...clock
mechanisms of that era didn't have minutehand capability) and a vase
of flowers, both meant to signify that the More household was well-to-
do and very fashionable.
Katy
<forevere@...> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Is this the same portrait by Holbein that Jack Leslau thought
contained
> hidden messages about the survival of "the Princes"?
Well. sort of. I haven't read Mr Leslau's work, but he may have
been expounding on a later rendition of the More family portrait, in
which one or, in another case, two figures have been added, leaning n
a doorway and visible in another room.
Could someone who has read Leslau's theory set it forth here for us?
>
> If so, Mr. Holbein was certainly a busy fellow gathering all this
esoteric
> knowledge. It's a wonder he had time to paint!!
>
> I realize artists back then (and maybe even now) were sometimes
agents as
> well as painters but this work of art has been
>
> laden with all sorts of hidden meanings. I am intrigued to read
this latest
> book on the subject.
There definitely is symbolism in the sketch, and presumably in the
now-lost painting. Symbols, if not symbolism. There is a clock on
the wall (with only one hand, which is not symbolic...clock
mechanisms of that era didn't have minutehand capability) and a vase
of flowers, both meant to signify that the More household was well-to-
do and very fashionable.
Katy
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