Hello
Hello
2002-04-07 02:02:43
Was Richard III a hunchback?
If so how did this affect his life?
If so how did this affect his life?
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Hello
2002-04-07 19:31:47
[email protected]/04/2002 02:02seamlessmetals@...
> Was Richard III a hunchback?
There is no evidence whatsoever to even suggest Richard had anything other
than a normal physique. In fact nobody with any deformity would have been
able to fight in medieval armour. No enemy mentions anything amiss or
unusual inhis appearnace, while the Countess desmond later recalled dancing
with him when she was young, and that he was the most handsome man in the
room after his brother king Edward IV, who is universally described as
beautiful.
The myth of Richard's deformity is the result of the growth of Tudor
propaganda that set out to make the last Planatagenet, who Henry VII
replaced with a very dubious claim to the throne, appear a monster, evil in
every way, that the Tudor's had arrived to rescue England from, and to the
Medieval mind, a deformed body indicated a deformed mind.
Good theatre, lousy and inaccurate reality.
Paul
> Was Richard III a hunchback?
There is no evidence whatsoever to even suggest Richard had anything other
than a normal physique. In fact nobody with any deformity would have been
able to fight in medieval armour. No enemy mentions anything amiss or
unusual inhis appearnace, while the Countess desmond later recalled dancing
with him when she was young, and that he was the most handsome man in the
room after his brother king Edward IV, who is universally described as
beautiful.
The myth of Richard's deformity is the result of the growth of Tudor
propaganda that set out to make the last Planatagenet, who Henry VII
replaced with a very dubious claim to the throne, appear a monster, evil in
every way, that the Tudor's had arrived to rescue England from, and to the
Medieval mind, a deformed body indicated a deformed mind.
Good theatre, lousy and inaccurate reality.
Paul
Hello
2003-01-03 07:47:32
Just wanted to say a general "hello" to all the Ricardians out
there. I joined the Society when I was 15 (1980-1) and am 37 now
(with brief time out in my college years). Finally joined the 21st
century with my own computer and am looking forward to reading and
discussing Ricardian issues. If anyone knows Celeste Bonfanti, my
old Ricardian friend now in New Jersey please let me know! Thanks
Kim in Detroit
there. I joined the Society when I was 15 (1980-1) and am 37 now
(with brief time out in my college years). Finally joined the 21st
century with my own computer and am looking forward to reading and
discussing Ricardian issues. If anyone knows Celeste Bonfanti, my
old Ricardian friend now in New Jersey please let me know! Thanks
Kim in Detroit
Hello
2007-01-20 19:52:18
Hello everyone, I've joined and thought I'd introduce myself.
My name is James, I'm 17. I am a writer, monarchist - vice chairman
of the Society of United Royalists and sovereign of a quasi-
principality - amateur observer of English history, and amateur actor
looking to go professional. I'm currently about to commence
rehearsals for a 6th form production of Shakespeare's "Richard III" in
which I will be playing Richard! It was researching the character that
got me interested in the real person and history's treatment of him.
It's one of those things I'd always known (that he was wronged by
history), but never realised the extent of.
Looking forward to discussing the king and the period!
All the best,
James.
p.s. you can follow my progress at my website: www.jamescbernthal.co.
uk
My name is James, I'm 17. I am a writer, monarchist - vice chairman
of the Society of United Royalists and sovereign of a quasi-
principality - amateur observer of English history, and amateur actor
looking to go professional. I'm currently about to commence
rehearsals for a 6th form production of Shakespeare's "Richard III" in
which I will be playing Richard! It was researching the character that
got me interested in the real person and history's treatment of him.
It's one of those things I'd always known (that he was wronged by
history), but never realised the extent of.
Looking forward to discussing the king and the period!
All the best,
James.
p.s. you can follow my progress at my website: www.jamescbernthal.co.
uk
Re: [Richard III Society Forum] Hello
2007-01-21 15:41:22
Welcome James.
Glad to hear the Bard brought another person to look into and find
the truth about Richard.
It's one hell of a part you have chosen to play at such a young age!
Ralph Fiennes said he didn't fell up to it yet back in the mid 90s,
so you are a brave soul. Break a leg! I'll watch your progress with
interest!
My best
Paul
On 20 Jan 2007, at 19:51, j_bernthal wrote:
> Hello everyone, I've joined and thought I'd introduce myself.
>
> My name is James, I'm 17. I am a writer, monarchist - vice chairman
> of the Society of United Royalists and sovereign of a quasi-
> principality - amateur observer of English history, and amateur actor
> looking to go professional. I'm currently about to commence
> rehearsals for a 6th form production of Shakespeare's "Richard III" in
> which I will be playing Richard! It was researching the character that
> got me interested in the real person and history's treatment of him.
> It's one of those things I'd always known (that he was wronged by
> history), but never realised the extent of.
>
> Looking forward to discussing the king and the period!
>
> All the best,
> James.
>
> p.s. you can follow my progress at my website: www.jamescbernthal.co.
> uk
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
"Richard Liveth Yet!"
Glad to hear the Bard brought another person to look into and find
the truth about Richard.
It's one hell of a part you have chosen to play at such a young age!
Ralph Fiennes said he didn't fell up to it yet back in the mid 90s,
so you are a brave soul. Break a leg! I'll watch your progress with
interest!
My best
Paul
On 20 Jan 2007, at 19:51, j_bernthal wrote:
> Hello everyone, I've joined and thought I'd introduce myself.
>
> My name is James, I'm 17. I am a writer, monarchist - vice chairman
> of the Society of United Royalists and sovereign of a quasi-
> principality - amateur observer of English history, and amateur actor
> looking to go professional. I'm currently about to commence
> rehearsals for a 6th form production of Shakespeare's "Richard III" in
> which I will be playing Richard! It was researching the character that
> got me interested in the real person and history's treatment of him.
> It's one of those things I'd always known (that he was wronged by
> history), but never realised the extent of.
>
> Looking forward to discussing the king and the period!
>
> All the best,
> James.
>
> p.s. you can follow my progress at my website: www.jamescbernthal.co.
> uk
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
"Richard Liveth Yet!"
Hello
2007-01-23 21:01:44
My name is Helen Brawn. I am 30. I am a professor of Russian
Humanitarian State University. The topic of my dissertation
is: "Gentry in the Wars of the Roses".
This time I am writing a book about Richard III. It is very sad (or
fun, as you wish) but there are only 2 books about Richard III
translated in Russian: Shakespeare's tragedy and "The history of king
Richard III" by Thomas More. Moreover in the preface to last Russian
edition pf Thomas More you can read that every fact in "The History
of king Richard III" is true. If somebody in Russia want to know more
about Richard III, he will find nothing or practically nothing – 4
short articles.
When I tell students that Richard III was not a monster, that he had
no hump and so on, they usually ask: "Really? Shakespeare war wrong?
How can it be?"
That is why my purpose to write a popular biography of Richard III
interesting to Russian readers.
All the best,
Helen.
Humanitarian State University. The topic of my dissertation
is: "Gentry in the Wars of the Roses".
This time I am writing a book about Richard III. It is very sad (or
fun, as you wish) but there are only 2 books about Richard III
translated in Russian: Shakespeare's tragedy and "The history of king
Richard III" by Thomas More. Moreover in the preface to last Russian
edition pf Thomas More you can read that every fact in "The History
of king Richard III" is true. If somebody in Russia want to know more
about Richard III, he will find nothing or practically nothing – 4
short articles.
When I tell students that Richard III was not a monster, that he had
no hump and so on, they usually ask: "Really? Shakespeare war wrong?
How can it be?"
That is why my purpose to write a popular biography of Richard III
interesting to Russian readers.
All the best,
Helen.
Re: Hello
2007-01-23 21:31:00
--- In , "helenbrawn" <srednie-veka@...> wrote:
>
>>
> That is why my purpose to write a popular biography of Richard III
> interesting to Russian readers.
>
> All the best,
> Helen.
Yes Helen spread the word to everyone you can - as the title of a very well known,
ficticious book about Richard tells us - Truth is the Daughter of Time.
Eileen
>
>
>>
> That is why my purpose to write a popular biography of Richard III
> interesting to Russian readers.
>
> All the best,
> Helen.
Yes Helen spread the word to everyone you can - as the title of a very well known,
ficticious book about Richard tells us - Truth is the Daughter of Time.
Eileen
>
Re: Hello Helen
2007-01-29 07:34:17
Helen, have you managed to find any books in English that set the
story straight ? The blessed More could teach modern-day spin
doctors a thing or two, and Shakespeare was a great playwright but a
lousy historian. Shame that that is all that is available to Russian-
speakers.
Richard G
--- In , "helenbrawn" <srednie-
veka@...> wrote:
>
> My name is Helen Brawn. I am 30. I am a professor of Russian
> Humanitarian State University. The topic of my dissertation
> is: "Gentry in the Wars of the Roses".
>
> This time I am writing a book about Richard III. It is very sad
(or
> fun, as you wish) but there are only 2 books about Richard III
> translated in Russian: Shakespeare's tragedy and "The history of
king
> Richard III" by Thomas More. Moreover in the preface to last
Russian
> edition pf Thomas More you can read that every fact in "The
History
> of king Richard III" is true. If somebody in Russia want to know
more
> about Richard III, he will find nothing or practically nothing – 4
> short articles.
>
> When I tell students that Richard III was not a monster, that he
had
> no hump and so on, they usually ask: "Really? Shakespeare war
wrong?
> How can it be?"
>
> That is why my purpose to write a popular biography of Richard
III
> interesting to Russian readers.
>
> All the best,
> Helen.
>
story straight ? The blessed More could teach modern-day spin
doctors a thing or two, and Shakespeare was a great playwright but a
lousy historian. Shame that that is all that is available to Russian-
speakers.
Richard G
--- In , "helenbrawn" <srednie-
veka@...> wrote:
>
> My name is Helen Brawn. I am 30. I am a professor of Russian
> Humanitarian State University. The topic of my dissertation
> is: "Gentry in the Wars of the Roses".
>
> This time I am writing a book about Richard III. It is very sad
(or
> fun, as you wish) but there are only 2 books about Richard III
> translated in Russian: Shakespeare's tragedy and "The history of
king
> Richard III" by Thomas More. Moreover in the preface to last
Russian
> edition pf Thomas More you can read that every fact in "The
History
> of king Richard III" is true. If somebody in Russia want to know
more
> about Richard III, he will find nothing or practically nothing – 4
> short articles.
>
> When I tell students that Richard III was not a monster, that he
had
> no hump and so on, they usually ask: "Really? Shakespeare war
wrong?
> How can it be?"
>
> That is why my purpose to write a popular biography of Richard
III
> interesting to Russian readers.
>
> All the best,
> Helen.
>