White Lackington and land-grants Stephen
White Lackington and land-grants Stephen
2008-07-10 00:04:45
You might want to read the record again (see below)!
White Lackington was a parish (a territorial subdivision) given as a land-grant by Bishop Reginald in the manner of a prebend (a prebend is an allowance paid by a cathedral or collegiate church to a canon or member of the chapter). Often-times these parishes had pre-existing economic value and sometimes there would be tithing barns to store the goods. The tithing barn still exists at Cerne Abbas which is some 10 miles west (+ / -)
QUOTE) Our earliest notice is to be found in the acts of Bishop Reginald (1174-91) creating the prebends of Holcombe, White Lackington, Timberscombe, in the cathedral church of Wells. (fn. 74) These gifts are witnessed among others by Walter, Prior of 'Berliz' or Barlynch
The whole has nothing to do with all your dates and names
james
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White Lackington was a parish (a territorial subdivision) given as a land-grant by Bishop Reginald in the manner of a prebend (a prebend is an allowance paid by a cathedral or collegiate church to a canon or member of the chapter). Often-times these parishes had pre-existing economic value and sometimes there would be tithing barns to store the goods. The tithing barn still exists at Cerne Abbas which is some 10 miles west (+ / -)
QUOTE) Our earliest notice is to be found in the acts of Bishop Reginald (1174-91) creating the prebends of Holcombe, White Lackington, Timberscombe, in the cathedral church of Wells. (fn. 74) These gifts are witnessed among others by Walter, Prior of 'Berliz' or Barlynch
The whole has nothing to do with all your dates and names
james
/
Re: White Lackington and land-grants Stephen
2008-07-10 19:56:06
Sorry, James, I have read it and it is totally irrelevant.
John was simply not known as "Lackland" during his lifetime (when only the Norman-speaking ruling classes could read) but "Sansterre". Similarly, his brother Richard was "Coeur de Lion" during his lifetime, to become "Lionheart" during the first era of mass literacy in the eighteenth century as sobriquets were Anglicised. I have mentioned some Saxon cases as well - then there is Edward I (John's grandson) who is now known as "Hammer of the Scots" but this could have originally been in French or Latin (Malleus Scottorum). Likewise French revisionist historians dubbed their great King and Holy Roman Emperor "Charlemagne" but his subjects probably knew him as Carolus Magnus.
However, you have shown that the village was called White Lackington in the late twelfth century so it's naming was nothing to do with John. You have blown your own case apart with this revelation!
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From: james bowles
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Subject: White Lackington and land-grants Stephen
You might want to read the record again (see below)!
White Lackington was a parish (a territorial subdivision) given as a land-grant by Bishop Reginald in the manner of a prebend (a prebend is an allowance paid by a cathedral or collegiate church to a canon or member of the chapter). Often-times these parishes had pre-existing economic value and sometimes there would be tithing barns to store the goods. The tithing barn still exists at Cerne Abbas which is some 10 miles west (+ / -)
QUOTE) Our earliest notice is to be found in the acts of Bishop Reginald (1174-91) creating the prebends of Holcombe, White Lackington, Timberscombe, in the cathedral church of Wells. (fn. 74) These gifts are witnessed among others by Walter, Prior of 'Berliz' or Barlynch
The whole has nothing to do with all your dates and names
james
/
John was simply not known as "Lackland" during his lifetime (when only the Norman-speaking ruling classes could read) but "Sansterre". Similarly, his brother Richard was "Coeur de Lion" during his lifetime, to become "Lionheart" during the first era of mass literacy in the eighteenth century as sobriquets were Anglicised. I have mentioned some Saxon cases as well - then there is Edward I (John's grandson) who is now known as "Hammer of the Scots" but this could have originally been in French or Latin (Malleus Scottorum). Likewise French revisionist historians dubbed their great King and Holy Roman Emperor "Charlemagne" but his subjects probably knew him as Carolus Magnus.
However, you have shown that the village was called White Lackington in the late twelfth century so it's naming was nothing to do with John. You have blown your own case apart with this revelation!
----- Original Message -----
From: james bowles
To:
Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:04 AM
Subject: White Lackington and land-grants Stephen
You might want to read the record again (see below)!
White Lackington was a parish (a territorial subdivision) given as a land-grant by Bishop Reginald in the manner of a prebend (a prebend is an allowance paid by a cathedral or collegiate church to a canon or member of the chapter). Often-times these parishes had pre-existing economic value and sometimes there would be tithing barns to store the goods. The tithing barn still exists at Cerne Abbas which is some 10 miles west (+ / -)
QUOTE) Our earliest notice is to be found in the acts of Bishop Reginald (1174-91) creating the prebends of Holcombe, White Lackington, Timberscombe, in the cathedral church of Wells. (fn. 74) These gifts are witnessed among others by Walter, Prior of 'Berliz' or Barlynch
The whole has nothing to do with all your dates and names
james
/
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